5 weeks have past since I broke it. this was taken this morning. tomorrow I see the doc for a follow up eval.
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That looks kinda off.. can't they pin it?
some nice lookin ribs there man, collarbone is another story alltogether.
Holy crap!!! It wasn't healing right?!? :( :(
Man, that sucks so bad... :(
CRYBABY! When I was a kid, our REWARD for doing chores around the house was a broken collarbone, and we were thankful our mother cared enough to give us one! I weep for the future generations who consider a broken collarbone to be a handicap!
I'm kidding, of course. That sucks! Why is it not healing? Better question...why hasn't it even been set back in place??? It's gonna hurt like a MoFo when they DO set it back in place!
Bartender! I'll have a Vicodin with a morphine chaser!
your looking a little boney man. :lol:
ouch..that's not right. :o
um Pablo, you're saying noone noticed that it wasn't setting after the first couple weeks. damn that looks like it was just broken today.
keep us updated.
Jake
dude, it whouldn't take me 20 minutes to safty wire a plate on there and in a week when the stiches come out you could be back on the bike
5 weeks with a known broken collar bone and they didnt pin it? i gotta hear the reason for this. I realise you cant put a cast on it, but damn, its a bone that needs to be set.
I don't see it.. what's wrong?
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Quote from: Blueknyt5 weeks with a known broken collar bone and they didnt pin it? i gotta hear the reason for this. I realise you cant put a cast on it, but damn, its a bone that needs to be set.
most broken collarbones are let to heal by themselves. pins/plates create lots of other complications, much more so than letting them heal mmisaligned, from what I've been told.
i could understand that to a point, this is a Gross Missalignment of the fractured ends, im sure if it has started to set, THIS would be the WORSE position to have it do so. while granted ive been lucky and only chipped a bone, if you looked like this 5 weeks ago i dont think it would have been that hard to put you under and plate it with 6 screws to let it start mending in proper position. few weeks down the road the plate can be removed if needed. i mean, hell even waiting a week to schedule the surgery thats still a month of PROPER healing you could have been doing. there is no way in hell one can look at that picture and say, yeah, it will heal up almost good as new. Might be lawyer material man, this song and dance should not have gone on like that.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?id=2004/letters07-12
from collerbone 1
QuoteClavicle fractures are undoubtedly one of the most common cycling injuries and, until fairly recently, were generally left to mend on their own. This resulted in 4-6 weeks of significantly altered training, loss of fitness, etc. However, more and more frequently I am seeing surgical correction (via screws) with excellent results. I have had 4 clients this year have surgery on their clavicle fractures and they have all been back on their bike within 3 days and were racing within about 3 weeks. Two of these clients had waited 6 weeks and had encountered a scenario similar to yours. The other two had surgery within three days of their accident. All are doing very well and having minimal problems. They all reported general local irritation from the screw - we're a skinny bunch without much muscle covering that area - and two have already had the screw removed. The risks of the surgery include the standard infection concerns (as with any surgery) and the concern of a crash damaging the area before adequate bone callous formation has occurred. I would note that, 6 weeks after one of my clients had their surgery, they crashed quite spectacularly and impacted that area with no effects whatsoever. I would also point that different surgeons will have different opinions on this injury, but in general, for a population that quickly needs to return to activity, this is an excellent option.
So what does the doc say now? :(
it all looks good. yes, there are rib fractures...common for them to not show up in initial xrays. yes, there is actually bone growth indicated at the collarbone. no, dont need surgery-not racing anytime soon, collarbone broken in middle so likelyhood of good solid bonding is high, nerves not concentrated there so no future nerve/arthritis/arm/hand damage likely. I can take figure-8 brace and sling off. Going to see ortho surgeon tomorrow for second opinion and to get an eta on when I can ride again. Looks alright so far.
*phew* I'm glad to hear that the news is better than we thought!!!!!! :cheers:
But... The bones... Not touching... :o
That just can't be good... :?
the xray is deceiving (the photo I took even more so). they are touching and they are growing bone. they just arent lined up end to end...over time the bump will get smaller as well.
Quote from: pantablothe xray is deceiving (the photo I took even more so). they are touching and they are growing bone. they just arent lined up end to end...over time the bump will get smaller as well.
Just a postwhore looking for our sympathy!? :nono:
Well....it worked. ;) :kiss: :P :lol:
HEY! I didnt know that then!
Quote from: pantablothey are touching and they are growing bone.
OH!!! Well, that's good...
Still makes me want to puke every time I look at it... They look like they're nowhere near each other. :?
Is it still hurtin', or is the pain lessening as time goes by? :?
pain and discomfort is almost nonexistent. feel pretty good actually. I can hold myself up missionary style now.... ;)
TMI!!! :?
This thread is worthless without pictures!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Where's that damned halo emoticon!!!!!??? :lol:
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POSTWHORES!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yes... glad you're feeling "up" to your usual self pablo!
condoms are like snowpants, and who wants to wear snowpants in the jungle?
Quote from: davipucondoms are like snowpants, and who wants to wear snowpants in the jungle?
abuuuuuuuh???
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<--- wouldn't know...
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLastoh yes... glad you're feeling "up" to your usual self pablo!
always felt "up" to my old self, my wife on the other hand only now isnt afraid to break me. mmm....
hahahahaha... when does this cross from "comical" to TMI
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLasthahahahaha... when does this cross from "comical" to TMI
After he posts pics, or is that when it goes from TMI to comical?? ;)
*hiding* :mrgreen:
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Your wife makes YOU do the work with a broken collar bone? Ouch man. You're getting the short end of the stick of that deal! :lol: I guess that means she's getting the long en.... nevermind.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5Your wife makes YOU do the work with a broken collar bone?
in so many ways.....
ortho surgeon says no surgery needed but its not healing as well as it should and that I need to not use my arm so much...and take more calcium supplements.
Quote from: pantabloortho surgeon says ... that I need to not use my arm so much...
Uh......not gonna touch this one with a 10-ft......:lol: :lol: :lol: I imagine this means no more missionary for a bit? :dunno: :P
Quote from: pantabloand take more calcium supplements.
Calcium citrate is excellent... truly MUCH better than carbonate...I use Citrical Plus Magnesium (it also contains D, which helps with calcium absorption....a marriage made in heaven is provided by the combination of calc. citrate, magnesium, and vit D)....Trader Joe's also makes a good calcium (as long as you make sure it's the calcium citrate in elemental form). Also, these two that I use measure the dose in elemental form (usually it'll read something like Calcium (as Calcium Citrate). If it just says calcium citrate w/o saying it's elemental, then you won't be getting the full, true dose...but a lot of fillers. It's so darned difficult to get menz to take their calcium! :roll:
I'm having sympathy pains in my collar bone... Except it's the wrong one. :dunno:
citrical is also a very good calcium supplement. wifey, mom, and mother-in-law al take. it has one of the highest doses and absortion rates of calcium on the market.
Quote from: ktrimcitrical is also a very good calcium supplement. wifey, mom, and mother-in-law al take. it has one of the highest doses and absortion rates of calcium on the market.
I just said that! :P
Also, our bodies only absorb a certain amount at one time, so take your doses split up into 500-600mg per....anything above that taken at one time is not absorbed..it's just wasted. :o
And one last tidbit (for the moment). Try to take one dose as you're going to bed; calcium is well absorbed when you're....uh....lying flat on your back...ahem.... in other words, when your bones aren't in a weight-bearing state..... er.... ya' know what I mean! :P
Quote from: pantablopain and discomfort is almost nonexistent. feel pretty good actually. I can hold myself up missionary style now.... ;)
OK that's just gross :?
You saw Anne's messed up collar bone on the site I'm sure. Cutting the bone out made a tremendous difference for her, but then again her problem was more severe -no chance of healing.
As far as I can tell it looks like you'll be at high risk for rebreakage if those bones are that out of whack.
Quote from: johnCutting the bone out made a tremendous difference for her, but
:? Talking about gross...cutting bones out!? :?
I value all of my bones, thank you....(mental note: more calcium...more calcium...).
Pablo, keep working on building those bones!! :thumb:
Quote from: johnYou saw Anne's messed up collar bone on the site I'm sure.
I remember that! oh so familiar...
pandy, stop it!
Quote from: pantablopandy, stop it!
I said boneS...PLURAL....you perv!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
(Second time I've had to clean my monitor today! :x :P :lol: )
thats par for the course, so to speak...I'm not there yet but I'll let you know when my screen needs cleaning.....give me a few more minutes. :lol:
DAMMIT!! Third time!! :x :lol:
Ok...I'm not gonna touch this one...nope, I'm not...not going there... willllpowwwwwwer!!! :lol:
Quote from: pantablothats par for the course, so to speak...I'm not there yet but I'll let you know when my screen needs cleaning.....give me a few more minutes. :lol:
GAH GAH GAH GAH !!!!!!!!!! *GOUGES EYES OUT AT MENTAL IMAGE*... thanks Pablo... :? :? We need a vomit icon, like on my other board..
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLastGAH GAH GAH GAH !!!!!!!!!! *GOUGES EYES OUT AT MENTAL IMAGE*... thanks Pablo... :? :? We need a vomit icon, like on my other board..
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It's nice to finally have something for the ladies on GSTwin! :P ;)
So, how'bout an update? Things doing better or just the same?