Well i went out for a short ride ,was kinda cold, to a buddies house when going about 40 a cat darts across the street. I swerved a little i didnt wanna get to wild and lose it , plus it was heavy traffic, despite my best effort the cat got it. Did i mention it was a black cat? I laid two tire tracks across that cats body, but lucky for me i got lucky and he didnt get tangled up in a wheel or anything. I slowed down to kinda gather my self and as i turned there was a cop that seen the whole thing. He pulled me over asked me if i was ok and then chewed me out for hitting the cat sayin that i should have tried harder to miss it. I guess he would have been happy if i would have laid the bike over instead of hitting the cat. GO FIGURE! anyway who cares right lol .
HAHAH That's terrible...and funny. (I hate cats) I can't imagine a cat getting caught in my wheel and just spinning around in there as I ride...that would really suck.
Now let's just sit and wait for davipu n friends to reply with the kitty cat jokes...
There isnt anything worse than a flat kitty cat????
i love my kitty cat....cat :)
Quote from: funwithtwinsanyway who cares right lol .
Well, the owner of the cat probably cares :roll: . In New York, you can get a ticket for hitting a domestic animal and not reporting it. At least the cop saw you and you interacted with him, so even if you were in NY you are safe there. :thumb: Glad you didn't get hurt and that the bike is OK. As for the cat..well, I guess it was his her time to go. :dunno:
I guess you skipped the bad luck because it didn't technically cross your path...
Were you doing 40 in a residential 25? I can see you getting a chewing for that.
The :guns: :guns: &%X!*# that hit Oatey didnt stop, the guy behind him did and brought him back to my dad. The jerk just kept going, apparently he didnt hit his brakes or anything. I guess I would just have the courtesy to stop and see if it was someones pet or if I could help in any way. A friend of mine did go down once after hitting a cat, flung his gf into a ditch :lol: he was a squid anyway.
you need to carry a knife and some tinfoil and a limon for these ocasions.
Quote from: davipuyou need to carry a knife and some tinfoil and a limon for these ocasions.
And beer...
Quote from: davipuyou need to carry a knife and some tinfoil and a limon for these ocasions.
If I wanted to eat cat I'd spend more time at my local Vietnamese restaurant.
If I hit a domestic animal, you better believe I'd find the owner to let them know what happened; somebody is going to pay for the damage to my ride. If I am riding down the street at the speed limit and an animal runs out and I kill it, why is it my fault or responsibility to find the owner to tell them what 'I' did? Their animal endangered my life, damaged my property, and fulfilled its place in Darwin's Theory, and I owe the owner what?
Quote from: aplitzIf I hit a domestic animal, you better believe I'd find the owner to let them know what happened; somebody is going to pay for the damage to my ride. If I am riding down the street at the speed limit and an animal runs out and I kill it, why is it my fault or responsibility to find the owner to tell them what 'I' did? Their animal endangered my life, damaged my property, and fulfilled its place in Darwin's Theory, and I owe the owner what?
Do you have the same attitude towards hitting young kids?
Quote from: RoadstergalQuote from: aplitzIf I hit a domestic animal, you better believe I'd find the owner to let them know what happened; somebody is going to pay for the damage to my ride. If I am riding down the street at the speed limit and an animal runs out and I kill it, why is it my fault or responsibility to find the owner to tell them what 'I' did? Their animal endangered my life, damaged my property, and fulfilled its place in Darwin's Theory, and I owe the owner what?
Do you have the same attitude towards hitting young kids?
Ouch!!!
If a parent is letting their child run in the street Darwin is there but in a different direction. For me personally, it would be a more devistating situation. I have issue with people letting their animals run free then freaking out at people who are victims of their negligence. So to answer your question, I would feel devistated but still hold the child's parents responsible for forcing such devistation into my life. (This is still in the event that I am not breaking the law at the time).
You don't think people should let cats run free!! Should they keep it in the house all day and take it for walks on a lead.
That 9th life was a bummer...
I like cats but don't feel bad about that one. I'd feel worse if he'd crashed the bike.
Children can be taught not to run into the street, and if they can't grasp that concept the parent is responsible for them and their actions-just like for a cat. You can't teach a cat to stay in the yard, so how can you blame the driver when the owner knows what can happen if they don't keep the cat safe.
Quote from: SuZuki10Children can be taught not to run into the street, and if they can't grasp that concept the parent is responsible for them and their actions-just like for a cat. You can't teach a cat to stay in the yard, so how can you blame the driver when the owner knows what can happen if they don't keep the cat safe.
agreed...I like animals.. but domestic animals need to be just that... domestic.. as in "within the domicile"... not in the roads... I remember when I locked up the brakes in my mustang and skidded for a good ten feet cuz some dumbass cat ran out in front of me... I almost needed new pants... if I'd hit it (doing 50 in a 55), minding my own business, is it my fault, or the fault of the owners who weren't taking care of it? I'll save you the thought, it's NOT MINE..
Quote from: ukchickenloverYou don't think people should let cats run free!! Should they keep it in the house all day and take it for walks on a lead.
Yes, that's exactly how I feel... a domesticated animal belongs in a home, behind a fence,or on a leash, somewhere where the owner is in control... I don't feel that I, or anyone else should be held responsible for the owner's lack of responsibility...
Quote from: aplitzIf I hit a domestic animal, you better believe I'd find the owner to let them know what happened; somebody is going to pay for the damage to my ride. If I am riding down the street at the speed limit and an animal runs out and I kill it, why is it my fault or responsibility to find the owner to tell them what 'I' did? Their animal endangered my life, damaged my property, and fulfilled its place in Darwin's Theory, and I owe the owner what?
Oy vey ... I am agreeing with ya ... I think its the end of the world ... But I believe I'd most likely hit a dog before I hit a cat though ... usually dogs get over excited at the sound than cats do ... either way I will drag the freaking thing over to the owner and make them pay for damage to my bike ... you bet, and yea call the cops in as well ...
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Srinath.
Quote from: SuZuki10Children can be taught not to run into the street
Eventually. Young kids lack judgement, though (up through the teen years, the part of the brain that seats judgement continues to develop), and they do run out of their parents' grasp when the mood strikes them. It's part of being a kid. You eat paste, you try to get the girls to play doctor, you run around a lot and try to escape your parents.
You should always be looking for what's beside the road as well as what's on it. Kids are volatile. Animals are volatile. If you're in a residential zone, you need to slow down and watch for the above. If there are a lot of parked cars that can hide kids and animals, give them room and slow down.
"I didn't see it" is the SUV's excuse for hitting a biker. I don't buy that one, and I don't buy it from a motorcyclist trying to play the Bigger Makes Right game on the next smaller size.
so when you ran the cat over... what did it sounded like? or, how did it feel like? any loss of control at all? like riding over wet leaves? :dunno:
I'm going to have to back Roadstergal on this 100%. Driving a car / riding a motorcycle is a privalage - and you need to be responsible enough to maintain it. And one of those responsibilities is watching for others around you. Accidents happen - that is why they are caled accidents. An animal running out in front of you is basically an accident - they are so quick that even if you did see them in time, you might not be able to stop the vehicle SAFELY, like the original poster of this thread. He said he tried to miss it but couldn't. He did good. He made REASONABLE effort to avoid the animal.
The person who hit Pastrami's dog didn't even use his brakes? That is not reasonable effort. The deer I hit a few weeks ago in my car? I was cruising at 70mph and laid down a couple hundred feet of rubber by the time I was done - that is reasonable effort. Flying into another car, a person, animal, whatever without trying to control your vehicle is irrsponsible.
Amanda is right, children can be taught not to run into the street and parents should be RESPONSIBLE for teaching them this. And you can't put a cat on a leash; for one that is stupid. And for two, if it wasn't a cat it could have been a squirill. Or a skunk. A raccoon. Hell, an armadillo.
There are a lot of things that drivers need to be responsible for, but many of them are not. Your responsibility goes beyond just what YOU do, but also how you REACT to others.
second lesson on MSF: if you can't safely avoid the animal (dog, cat, etc), speed up and ran him over.
meaning, if there's a chance you will start to lose control of the bike while trying to avoid the infernal pet, then brace for impact.
The steering head will cleave a deer...so if you speed up...tuck.
Also: http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=163594#163594
you hit a deer Phae? wow... got pics of the car?
(http://www.grographics.com/transient/free-cat.jpg)
RV thats the first thing I though of when I started reading this thread :thumb:
Domestic cats are terrible for the ecosystem, they kill birds, rabbits, and anything else they can get at and they have no natural enemies in local suburbia, now I would have no problem if they ate what they killed but since Mr and Mrs Katperson feed it every day it has no need for the extra food and leaves the poor little baby bunnies to fester in my back yard. If I can't walk my dog with out a leash why the hell should your cat roam free to shaZam! on my lawn or kill the song birds in my backyard. That's about all so yes Roadstergal I do think that all cats (aside from barn cats that kill the rats) should be on leashes or kept in the house. Just my thoughts.
I have very little sympathy for birds that get eating by cats.
Here's a hint, bird: YOU CAN FLY! CATS CAN'T!
It seems to me that if a bird - which can fly - gets eaten by a cat - which can't - it's kind of the bird's own fault. It's not like it couldn't run fast enough to get away. Take off, motherfucker! Sit in a tree! Or on a powerline! No cat will get you there.
(Also, I'm on the side of people shouldn't hit cats/dogs/whatever if they can be avoided. But remember that your life is worth a lot more than cat's, so if it can't be avoided safely, sorry kitty.)
Quote from: zukiGS500RV thats the first thing I though of when I started reading this thread :thumb:
:lol: I laughed for about 3 months after seeing that pic. :lol:
Quote from: aaronstj(Also, I'm on the side of people shouldn't hit cats/dogs/whatever if they can be avoided. But remember that your life is worth a lot more than cat's, so if it can't be avoided safely, sorry kitty.)
That's exactly it. Do your best to Not Hit Living Things. It's better for all concerned.
Quote from: dyranDomestic cats are terrible for the ecosystem
Humans are even more terrible for the ecosystem, and they have no natural enemies left either. If I happen to hit one, well, that's all for the better.
Quote from: aaronstjI have very little sympathy for birds that get eating by cats.
Here's a hint, bird: YOU CAN FLY! CATS CAN'T!
It seems to me that if a bird - which can fly - gets eaten by a cat - which can't - it's kind of the bird's own fault. It's not like it couldn't run fast enough to get away. Take off, motherfucker! Sit in a tree! Or on a powerline! No cat will get you there.
(Also, I'm on the side of people shouldn't hit cats/dogs/whatever if they can be avoided. But remember that your life is worth a lot more than cat's, so if it can't be avoided safely, sorry kitty.)
You kidding right ... I have routinely see cats jump off fences or roofs and swat a bird flying off the ground. Also birds when their feathers are wet dont fly all that well ... and cats can hide in the grass and stalk birds pretty well and have one come up close to it and swat it. I also have seen birds fly close to the ground get swatted. And here is the killer in the sacramento valley one time I saw a cat get lifted off the ground by a Kestrel. Amazing. I believe the cat was alive and writhing and disrupting its flight, but none the less. I also hope that that bird had a game plan, like dropping it in a thorny bush cos it wasn't gonna be able to kill the thing in the air ... In any case I believe they are pack hunters so dropping it in a field would have made for some good target practice for the birds. House cats that are being fed usually get too lazy to do anyhting remotely acrobatic though. Wild/feral is the problem.
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Srinath.
Quote from: RoadstergalHumans are even more terrible for the ecosystem, and they have no natural enemies left either. If I happen to hit one, well, that's all for the better.
I agree Roadstergal. A lot of humans are in favor of the "Darwin theory" that stronger shall dominate the weak. That is, until they find themselves in a weaker position..then they believe in mercy. Idiots. :roll: I am glad the original poster of this thread did atleast try not to hit the cat - he did the best he could under the circumtances. But not everyone does.
Just as a point of reference: in MA, if you cause an accident while trying to avoid an animal in the road, YOU are at fault and will be cited. I'm all for doing your best to avoid critters of all types (including children), but not at the cost of personal safety for yourself or those around you.
And that's why Badger's cats stay indoors.
that's why parents need to chain up there: cats, dogs, kids, gold fish, what ever. it's a plain and simple fact that if you can't trust it to do somethign then you need to control it so it can't do it. otherwise I'm going to get a pitbull and every kid it eats will be the parents fault cause he's going to drag a leash around every whare he goes. and I'm not going to feed him so he will always be hungry and then I'm going to breed him with a wolf so the spawn will be a endangered species and then you little eco-hippie terrorist fucks, your plan to save the rain forests will backfire and you will be forced to live in a suburban hell. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I Rule.
Quote from: davipuotherwise I'm going to get a pitbull and every kid it eats will be the parents fault cause he's going to drag a leash around every whare he goes. and I'm not going to feed him so he will always be hungry
I'm all for hitting the kids instead of the furry creatures.
Here's a pic of our ferocious pit bull, ready to face a day of eating children:
With the theory "it is the parents fault.." it is no wonder why so many adults now blame their parents for everything. :lol: Kids over 5 years old KNOW better than to run out in traffic. Hell, some kids under 5 know better. And if they are not old enough to know better - they need to be supervised, obviously. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure eh.
Would we really be having this conversation if we were talking about dogs? Seems that a lot of people, especially dog owner have a weird kind of "animosity" toward cats.
I guess the point is...if it's somebody's pet...it would be tragic if the animal gets run over (dog or cat).
I've almost run into a golden retriever as well as a cat up in the Malibu canyons. I'll do everything I can, short of locking my wheels to avoid it. If I run over it, I run over it...it's tragic, but I can't risk my own life for a pet...
Quote from: VersOneWould we really be having this conversation if we were talking about dogs? Seems that a lot of people, especially dog owner have a weird kind of "animosity" toward cats.
I guess the point is...if it's somebody's pet...it would be tragic if the animal gets run over (dog or cat).
I've almost run into a golden retriever as well as a cat up in the Malibu canyons. I'll do everything I can, short of locking my wheels to avoid it. If I run over it, I run over it...it's tragic, but I can't risk my own life for a pet...
yeah when Pastrami said her dog was hit by a car, everyone was like "awww". But if it is a cat, its like "well, the cat shouldn't be out there...". :roll:
Quote from: Phaedrusher dog was hit by a car, everyone was like "awww". But if it is a cat, its like "well, the cat shouldn't be out there...".
'cause dogs are good... and cats are not.
yeah cats suck, lol I agree with a lot of you guys tho, i do everything i can not to hit anything living, but im not gonna put my own safety in jepoardy to do so.
DOGS RULE AND CATS DROOL!!! Duhhh :nana:
I love my cat. He's really great. Hell, he's more of a dog than a lot of dogs I've been around.
I know I'd be just as sad if my bike was hit by a dog as I would be if it was hit by a cat. Especially if the dog was one of those mouse sized ones ... you know a rat that barks ... like the italian mortise or poodle that my welder had that he put a price on ... kill it and you get $50 worth of work free ... man was it ever fun yanking its hair out and poking it ... then his wife figured it out and made him regret it ... so the offer was withdrawn ... boy was it a rough couple weeks ... I wanted to torture the freaking thing and I coundn't ... and hell it was right there cowering in fear right in the cage ... was so freaking easy to stick in a steel rod and whack it about ... or tug tufts of hair through the cage ... man was it tough ... then he gave it away ... whew that helped ...
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Srinath.
I shoulda jumped in yesterday with an opinion, but it's been entertaining reading as to who's on what side of the fence on this one. My point of view:
- Although the cat was in the wrong place at the wrong time, it's the responsibility of the rider to be ever on the lookout for the next accident waiting to happen. Come on -- admit it. You would never have run over the animal if you were expecting it to run out in front of you. It's like watching for that ball rolling onto the street, or a car backing up. Expect the unexpected, especially in residential areas.
- There's an irresponsible (dare I say lazy) pet owner out there. Cats don't need to be let out at night in urban areas. I know -- we have two cats that live indoors, or are out on a leash. (It's more fun to watch paint dry than it is to take a cat for a walk.)
- Dogs should never roam free in urban areas. Either it escaped it's bonds, or someone should be fined for causing a nuisance.
- People and animals are valued differently by society. Always avoid a person.[/list:u]
It's easy to criticize and sorry if this note seems like I'm preaching. But it does bring up a useful example that there's a responsibility we all take when we throw a leg over. We gotta keep our eyes open and ride at speeds reasonable for the conditions.
Quote from: dyranDomestic cats are terrible for the ecosystem, they kill birds, rabbits... I would have no problem if they ate what they killed but since Mr and Mrs Katperson feed it every day it has no need for the extra food ...
this reminds me of hunters (people).
LOL i never thought that in a millions years me hitting a cat would raise three pages of almost political views. ;) But to answere a question some said i why was i doing 40 in a 25 zone? Because the posted limit was 45mph. I tried not to hit it did everything i could except lay the bike over and i fell sorry for the cat also, im not a killer hell i dont even hunt, but i guess sometimes things like this happen. Maybe it was me at fault or maybe the cats owner im not sure.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathI know I'd be just as sad if my bike was hit by a dog as I would be if it was hit by a cat. Especially if the dog was one of those mouse sized ones ... you know a rat that barks ... like the italian mortise or poodle that my welder had that he put a price on ... kill it and you get $50 worth of work free ... man was it ever fun yanking its hair out and poking it ... then his wife figured it out and made him regret it ... so the offer was withdrawn ... boy was it a rough couple weeks ... I wanted to torture the freaking thing and I coundn't ... and hell it was right there cowering in fear right in the cage ... was so freaking easy to stick in a steel rod and whack it about ... or tug tufts of hair through the cage ... man was it tough ... then he gave it away ... whew that helped ...
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Srinath.
I know you're joking (hope you are at least) but this isn't funny :( I don't like little yappy dogs either, but they deserve better treatment than that.
Quote from: JazzzzzI know you're joking (hope you are at least) but this isn't funny :( I don't like little yappy dogs either, but they deserve better treatment than that.
Srinath is participating in an age-old sport (thanks to john for the picture):
Quote from: JazzzzzQuote from: seshadri_srinathI know I'd be just as sad if my bike was hit by a dog as I would be if it was hit by a cat. Especially if the dog was one of those mouse sized ones ... you know a rat that barks ... like the italian mortise or poodle that my welder had that he put a price on ... kill it and you get $50 worth of work free ... man was it ever fun yanking its hair out and poking it ... then his wife figured it out and made him regret it ... so the offer was withdrawn ... boy was it a rough couple weeks ... I wanted to torture the freaking thing and I coundn't ... and hell it was right there cowering in fear right in the cage ... was so freaking easy to stick in a steel rod and whack it about ... or tug tufts of hair through the cage ... man was it tough ... then he gave it away ... whew that helped ...
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Srinath.
I know you're joking (hope you are at least) but this isn't funny :( I don't like little yappy dogs either, but they deserve better treatment than that.
Well ... it was $50 worth of work free ... and I was gonna pass the savings on to y'all on flanges and bars ... Oh well I guess you didn't want that. BTW his daughter bought that dog and promised she'd take care of it and ended up being his problem ... they then gave it away ... or it ran away or it got ran over or eaten by the chupacabrah or whatever ... and no I wasn't joking ... though every one that saw me do it thought it was funny as hell ... till his wife got wind of it ... There is a couple dogs around my house I'd love to torture ... most likely I'd never get that chance but I most likely will run over atleast one of those I think. I'm sorry but its just that kind of dog ... and its owner isn't that far better either ... There is also a couple dogs in my neighborhood that I'd love to play with and bring home. There is this insanely gorgeous alaskan or siberian husky lovely. but yea rats that bark ... yuck ...
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Quote from: AlphaFire X5Hell, he's more of a dog than a lot of dogs I've been around.
Hah so's your... (insert offensive female family member here)... I won't crack on your g/f or mother... but you get the point... you opened yourself up for it! :lol: :lol: :cheers:
Yes, I would have to kill you if you made a crack about my girlfriend [/thick russian accent]
Quote from: AlphaFire X5Yes, I would have to kill you if you made a crack about my girlfriend [/thick russian accent]
I refrained since you posted a pic of her in the girlfriends thread, and she looks like a nice girl.. and she puts up with you, so we know she's strong of character... I just had to get a dig in SOMEHOW though...
yeah :) She does :) :):):):):)
You can always make an attempt to insult my half-sister. I don't know her very well anyways.
Well.. what's the difference between your half sister, and a mallard with a cold?
I have no idea.
One's a sick duck... I can't remember the rest, but she's a wh*re!
Haha.. anybody watch the old Celeberity Jeopardy on SNL?
Quote from: RedShift
- There's an irresponsible (dare I say lazy) pet owner out there. Cats don't need to be let out at night in urban areas. I know -- we have two cats that live indoors, or are out on a leash. (It's more fun to watch paint dry than it is to take a cat for a walk.)
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If I saw someone out walking there cat I would point and laugh at them.
Quote from: ukchickenloverIf I saw someone out walking there cat I would point and laugh at them.
Ya, me too. As I was thinking of this...
http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/crazycat.html :lol: :lol: :nana:
Quote from: cobalt135Quote from: ukchickenloverIf I saw someone out walking there cat I would point and laugh at them.
Ya, me too. As I was thinking of this...
http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/crazycat.html :lol: :lol: :nana:
:) Poor Pinky -- having to deal with stupid people. The woman with the box was obviously not a cat person, and the Officer should have known better. Pinky just wanted what MC riders want -- to be free to explore his surroundings and he got to do that in the end.
My version of taking the cat for a walk is more like controlling the cat's prowling on a long tether.
Quote from: dyranIf I can't walk my dog with out a leash why the hell should your cat roam free...
..cant dont usually tend to maul little children.
you obviously haven't seen this (http://catattacksbaby.ytmnd.com/)
or this
http://users.pandora.be/theretard/Comedy%20-%20Cat%20Attacks%20Kid%20(funny)%20(1).mpg
for some reason that second one wouldn't work as a link.. but it works if you copy paste.. whatever..
There are always exceptions, but in general, cats are less of a threat than dogs.
I KNOW.. it was a JOKE.. lighten up you bastage!!!!! :guns: :guns: :guns: ..... :lol: :lol: :cheers:
This thread is so cool, nearly as good as a whats the best colour thread which of course is black.
Quote from: ukchickenloverThis thread is so cool, nearly as good as a whats the best colour thread which of course is black.
No. You are wrong.
Quote from: ukchickenlover... the best colour thread which of course is black.
You are indeed wrong, and I am also unanimous in that opinion...
QuoteYa, me too. As I was thinking of this...
http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/crazycat.html
that was freaking hilarious :lol: :lol: :lol:
It reminds me of a field mouse I shot with my bb gun that was flipping and doing summersaults for a good 30 seconds before it died.
Hey i like all animals cats and dogs and if i did hit one i would definitely stop to help or at least inform the family. Sorry if i'm a bit miffed at how funny some people think it is to accidentally kill an animal as if we have more right to be there than they do.
Question...how do you do 40 mph. in heavy traffic..??
Quote from: Phaedrusin general, cats are less of a threat than dogs.
It's a size thing... A dog the size of a house cat can't do the same amount of damage a house cat can...
And a cat the size of a Retriever would EAT YOU!!
Well, not only that, but dogs are generally more aggressive. A house cat is not generally going to chase you and attack you, whereas a dog might, regardless of size :thumb:
It depends on the owner and house the animals have been treated...
I had a cat that would try to kill me whenever he had the chance... But, I was a little bastard and deserved it. Too bad he tried to kill other people too. :( I've been around a few cats that would attack people...
But, yes... Generally when a cat is mistreated, it just finds a new family or never comes out of hiding. But, when a dog is mistreated, they tend to kill babies. :dunno:
Dogs are still better. :thumb:
I believe in NY, if you hit an domestic type animal, you must make an effort to contact the owner or get a police report. Cows, chickens, cats, dogs... If you hit someone's prize pedigree rat-dog, that's definitely damage in excess of $500 and a police report is required. :roll:
Damn bunny hugging (and i like bunnies!) bleeding heart soccer moms in Wisconsin got the state to back down on allowing the hunting of feral cats as nuisance animals. They aren't native, they can't be tamed, and who the hell is going to care for the millions of wild cats if they are 'rescued'? I'd sit on my patio and ping away at any uncollared cat with an air rifle...
Quote from: juggernaughtQuestion...how do you do 40 mph. in heavy traffic?
Splitting.
Quote from: RoadstergalWere you doing 40 in a residential 25?
So let's see, he's splitting, at 40, in heavy traffic, on a residential.
Quote from: scratchQuote from: RoadstergalWere you doing 40 in a residential 25?
So let's see, he's splitting, at 40, in heavy traffic, on a residential.
LOL, I wasnt splitting, i was going 40(in a 45 i should add), and it wasnt a residential. Although there were houses on the right side of the street. On the left side was my local kawi, suzuki, polaris, and formarly sea-doo dealer. Its a pretty heavy travelled street , one of those streets that wide and long and everybody speeds down. :nono: