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Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: fretbuzz on December 09, 2005, 11:37:58 PM
:lol: http://www.break.com/articles/fastbikecrash.html
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: domas on December 10, 2005, 12:36:50 AM
It's good for that guy that this he learned his lesson the easy way :). He will have more respect for the bike now and will know what tyre run-in is :).

Poor innocent bike.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: cobalt135 on December 10, 2005, 12:45:21 AM
Doubt it.  Looks like his head bounced, will probibally be more stupid now.

Can't say that was only caused by new tire, providing it was new.  Seems like he was in the friction zone and gassed it up, freaked or something, and dumped the rest of the clutch. :dunno:
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: Roadstergal on December 10, 2005, 12:45:52 AM
There's a vid going around with another guy pulling a brand new Ducati out of the dealership, and he doesn't even get that far.

Full leathers and no helmet.  If he knocks his brains out, it'd be a minor accident.   :P  ;)
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: calamari on December 10, 2005, 02:39:02 AM
Quote from: RoadstergalThere's a vid going around with another guy pulling a brand new Ducati out of the dealership, and he doesn't even get that far.
need url  :guns:  :P
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: starwalt on December 10, 2005, 08:26:11 AM
This has been posted on GSTwin before. It was sometime last year, I think over in O&E section.

The implication was that it came from Germany. I remember someone commenting that it was a "classic high side" situation. The cobblestone/block pavement probably didn't help the rider's situation.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: ninja_steve on December 10, 2005, 09:55:54 AM
Quote from: RoadstergalThere's a vid going around with another guy pulling a brand new Ducati out of the dealership, and he doesn't even get that far.


yeah that video was the first thing that comes to mind.  i have it on one of my computers but have no way to host it  :dunno:
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: cobalt135 on December 10, 2005, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: ninja_steve
Quote from: RoadstergalThere's a vid going around with another guy pulling a brand new Ducati out of the dealership, and he doesn't even get that far.


yeah that video was the first thing that comes to mind.  i have it on one of my computers but have no way to host it  :dunno:


Can be hosted here.
http://www.putfile.com
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: samhkang on December 10, 2005, 11:02:31 AM
Being a rookie here, trying to learn from his mistake..
What went wrong? It sounds like he pulled his throttle too quickly and too much. Is that what the problem was? Hope I don't make the same mistake and trying to learn as much as possible. Need some teachings from you all experts out there.
Yes, I did take the wonderful MSF course already.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: cueball220 on December 10, 2005, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: samhkangBeing a rookie here, trying to learn from his mistake..
What went wrong? It sounds like he pulled his throttle too quickly and too much. Is that what the problem was? Hope I don't make the same mistake and trying to learn as much as possible. Need some teachings from you all experts out there.
Yes, I did take the wonderful MSF course already.

Seemed like he was still nursing the clutch, gave it some right hand with the clutch still loose and when he released the clutch the back wheel got a bit more power then he was ready for.  Classic High Side in the making.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: PatrickInNC on December 10, 2005, 11:35:44 AM
Learn from this,

1. Wear a helmet.
2. Don't EVER try to look cool on a motorcycle while being filmed,
3. He just gave it too much gas, and that was a powerful bike.

Lesson to be learned is respect the bike. And be really careful, especially any time that you pull away from a dealer. If you are at a dealer there are lots of reasons a tire can be slick, you could have a new one put on, or it could have fluids on the tire.

-Patrick
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: toole2go on December 10, 2005, 12:18:45 PM
more vid clips

http://www.gofish.com/results-category.html?category=netvideo&genre=1319&page=0

i like the steering wheel... seen that before hehe..
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: jomei on December 10, 2005, 12:26:58 PM
What an ass. I watched it about 40 times already and analyzed it in slow motion.

Here is what I see.

It looks as though when he was pulling away, he tried to give it some gas and let it rip. (Obviously a dumbass because look at the road surface. It is un-even cement brick.)

!. When he pulls away, he leans into the turn and at the same time drops the clutch. It seems an intentional move to rocket off down the road. He could be familiar with only lower cc bikes, and not ready for that power.

2.Watch about 3 seconds in and you can see right when the mistake happens. (If you can, put the video in slow motion and watch from the exact moment when the tire breaks loose.)

3. Right when the tire breaks loose he trys to right his mistake and grabs the front brake without pulling the clutch. (In slow motion you can see the brake light switch on.)

4. The bike then goes from sliding sideways to the tire gripping.

Watch closely as he is now traveling sideways. It would have been better to ride it out.

Here are all his errors are as follows, in cronological order.

Not wearing a helmet.
Assing around for the camera.
Underestimating the power of a large displacement machine.
Not paying attention to the road surface.
Not using smooth lever and throttle action, instead using jerky motions, especially on a big cc bike.
Using bad braking technique.
Overcompensating and turning the forks in the wrong direction too fast.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: xtalman on December 10, 2005, 12:35:52 PM
Probably

1) Cold tires
2) Bumpy surface
3) Too much power
4) Letting off the gas abruptly, which allowed the rear tire to grip very quickly again
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: jomei on December 10, 2005, 12:46:23 PM
http://www.gofish.com/cnvVideoPlayer.html?gfid=17-13153

I am sorry, but this is why I never let anyone ride my bike unless they know wtf they are doing. Glad he did not get hurt bad. So he makes me laugh.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: JustinNoob on December 10, 2005, 02:38:35 PM
Jomei,

Those videos were hilarious.  My favorite was the guy who wiped out doing wheelies NAKED.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: rtcpenguin on December 10, 2005, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: jomeihttp://www.gofish.com/cnvVideoPlayer.html?gfid=17-13153
HAHAHAHAHA

How the hell? I mean, if you just understand what the clutch lever does you should be able to avoid that.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: Roadstergal on December 10, 2005, 07:39:14 PM
Target fixation.

He had all of the room in the world to go somewhere else, but he was afraid of hitting the tree, so he stared at it.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: RedShift on December 10, 2005, 07:52:11 PM
Quote from: samhkangBeing a rookie here, trying to learn from his mistake..
What went wrong? It sounds like he pulled his throttle too quickly and too much. Is that what the problem was? Hope I don't make the same mistake and trying to learn as much as possible. Need some teachings from you all experts out there. ...
My guess is a combintation of "fresh tires", "showing off with the throttle" and "poor traction (brick road construction)".

I spent a half hour with a stiff bristle brush and dish soap to get most of the mold release off my last set of new tires.  Brand new, tires are greasy.

It's important to get to know a new bike.  It's obvious from the vid that this guy was showing off and it bit him.  

Knowing how much input to give your controls is gained by experience.  Experience comes from time on the bike.  Start tentative and grow confidence over time.  That's the way I think everyone should introduce themselves to motocycling.
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: scratch on December 10, 2005, 09:03:04 PM
When I was a mechanic, I prepped a (then) brand new '90 Virago 1100 for a customer, when I took it out for a test ride (mandatory), I dumped it in the street because of the mold release on the tires. Minimal damage to the bike. The interesting thing, probably due to the seating position, was when it went out from under me, it was easy for me to have simply 'stepped off', leaving me still in the driveway while the bike spun like a breakdancer in the middle of the street, on its side.

Also, it takes me about a year and a half before I really become comfortable with a bike. I don't push a bike until I really get to 'know' her. This includes the same model of bike (this is my second GS).
Title: fastest motorcycle crash
Post by: ukchickenlover on December 10, 2005, 11:27:15 PM
Looks like he just gave it too much throttle trying to show off in front of the camera which is very easy do do on a bike like that on that road surface. I think you guys are being a bit tough on him, like who hasn't done something stupid trying to show off.