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If you're a fan of this car, then you know of the countless number of fake concept drawings and sculptures put out in the last couple of years. Well with it being a near certainty of a concept being released during the 2006 North American auto shows, there's a good chance the following pics are very real. These images have been circulating around the next since last week and there's a very good chance they're real.

http://www.projectrich.com/blog/2005/12/09.html#a729

Having owned several of these cars already and living in a Camaro family, I'm estatic to think this may be real. The Camaro is probably the biggest mystery going into the LA and Detroit Auto Shows in January. I have my fingers crossed.

(http://www.projectrich.com/blog/images/2005/12/09/camaro_1s.jpg)

(http://www.projectrich.com/blog/images/2005/12/09/camaro_4s.jpg)

More pics at the link above.

ah yes, the Chevy camaro.  I have owned two of them, an 87 and a 92.

Ford killed the Camaro a few years back when the Mustang dominated them so badly that GM pulled the F-body cars from the lineup entirely.

I just have to wonder if the market for gas-guzzling muscle cars is really there anymore like it used to be.  As much fun as those V8 power plants were, I certainly wouldn't buy one today.

Quote from: vtlionah yes, the Chevy camaro.  I have owned two of them, an 87 and a 92.

Ford killed the Camaro a few years back when the Mustang dominated them so badly that GM pulled the F-body cars from the lineup entirely.

I just have to wonder if the market for gas-guzzling muscle cars is really there anymore like it used to be.  As much fun as those V8 power plants were, I certainly wouldn't buy one today.

I absolutely hear ya there. My hope is to see GM's displacement-on-demand technology incorporated into the design on whatever V8 they decide to go with. V8 power when you need it. I4 fuel milage the rest of the time. For me, though, my love is so strong for that car that I wont mind the fuel milage.

That is so flippin sweet! I want one!!!!

Quote from: vtlion

I just have to wonder if the market for gas-guzzling muscle cars is really there anymore like it used to be.  As much fun as those V8 power plants were, I certainly wouldn't buy one today.

tell that to Ford and Chrysler. They just released two of them (the Mustang and 300C) which are doing quiet well. I can see why chevrolet is now reconsidering the camero. If the Camero looked like those concept pics, then the general would have a succes on thier hands. Whether or not it can gain back all of it's lost market share is yet to be seen

those LS1 Camaro's actually got around 30mpg on the freeway and my buddy's old LT1 got around 28 with the 6-speed.  Around town mileage depends on how heavy your foot was :)

maybe a new one wouldn't be so bad on the gas card

if it isn't rear wheel drive, I'll probably have a heart attack

Quote from: 70 Cam Guythose LS1 Camaro's actually got around 30mpg on the freeway and my buddy's old LT1 got around 28 with the 6-speed.  Around town mileage depends on how heavy your foot was :)

maybe a new one wouldn't be so bad on the gas card

if it isn't rear wheel drive, I'll probably have a heart attack

It will be RWD. It will have the Camaro formula for sure.

As for the mpg, I have a '98 (LS1) and a '93 (LT1) and those definitely don't get 30mpg. It's closer to 19mpg. They're bone stock except for a K&N filter charger on the '98.

the dang thing reminds me of a mustang?!  :o  :o  :x  :x  Seeing how it is just a concept and a rumor, who knows what the final product's gonna look like. But if it has but a hint of mustang in it, there WILL be hell to pay!  :guns:  :guns:

gotta wonder, is it a rolling concept chassis?  the jackstands under the frame near the wheels look strange, the front lower cowling/airdam doesnt seem right, and the tail lights look Photoshoped on.    while it looks as if they are takeing alot of cues from the 67,68,69 body style and cockpit, i cant really say i care for the nose too much, the styleing up top and tail lends more to the Dodge charger then any year GM Fbody


but hey, thats just my opinion

What they need to do it stop making 8-12 MPG cars and make some really damn cool looking 35-50 MPG cars...

I'd bet something that looked like that and got 30 MPG would sell like hotcakes.

Maybe put a turbo V6 in it?  That would be cool!  Ever wonder why you still see buick t-types and Grand Nationals with super high re-sale?

Anyway, I think it looks more like the Challenger concept than a Mustang.

Like so. . .

http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22765

Hmm. It looks distinctly Camaro to me. The high hips. The open faced grill with round headlights pushed all the way to the sides. The deck lid and hood. Even the front fog lights. Looks like a very modern Camaro with first-generation hints all over the place.

Looks like a '65 Mustang.

Quote from: AgentNitzthe dang thing reminds me of a mustang?!

Quote from: Blueknytthe styleing up top and tail lends more to the Dodge charger then any year GM Fbody

Quote from: Jake DI think it looks more like the Challenger concept than a Mustang.

Quote from: scratchLooks like a '65 Mustang.

:o  :x You guys are blind! :thumb:

The only area that looks like a '67-68 Camero is aft of the front wheel to the front part of the rear fender. The rest just looks like...a '65 Mustang, with the skirting of an '90 Mustang, the squared off rear end of a '65 Mustang, the pointy front end of a '69-70 Mustang...sorry, we've been inanduated by Mustangs...they're everywhere!

I see Mustangs, they're everywhere, they don't even know they're Fords...

So if this would come out, it would probably coincide with a redesign of the GTO/Holden Monaro.  Cause we all know the GTO definitely needs an attitude transplant.

Whatever, I want a G35 coupe, I have no need for American muscle...  :nana: And that would sit beside the Subie :)

I'm going slide into a WRX when my lease is up in July.  I can't wait.

But finally the Big 3 are starting to get it.

I'm definitely with all of you. The G35 has just an awesome powerplant and a WRX is a great deal for the performance. The only American cars I'd want to buy right now would be a Corvette C6 or even a Chevy HHR, but if a new Camaro does get released, I will be buying it.

Quote from: TurkinaSo if this would come out, it would probably coincide with a redesign of the GTO/Holden Monaro.  Cause we all know the GTO definitely needs an attitude transplant.

Whatever, I want a G35 coupe, I have no need for American muscle...  :nana: And that would sit beside the Subie :)

Pontiac SHOULD take the Camero concept and do a Trans Am and/or Firebird.   Expect cladding of some sort and stickers and a hood scoop.

Quote from: roguegeekThe only American cars I'd want to buy right now would be a Corvette C6 or even a Chevy HHR, but if a new Camaro does get released, I will be buying it.

I think that the Ford GT, Saleen S7, and Viper SRT10 all quallify as American cars that nobody would object to owning.

What about cars that are affordanble that an enthusiast would enjoy?  Can't think of many.  GTO might the be on example.  C6, cha-ching.  Cobalt SS, maybe.  New Mustang, is the best example.  There are many affordable performance type imports.  The Big 3 need to recognize.  The Charger, 300C, Magnum line might qualify.  SRT-4 is a good one. Focus SVT (why not sell the Focus RS here, huh?).   Crossfire SRT-6 is pricey.
Why not do a Focus RT AWD?  Compete directly with the R32 and WRX STi?  That would be a sweet ride!!!  

Or do an updated GTO and sell a Judge Package?   :)

Bring back the Feiro GT. they finnaly got that car right and then killed it. That is the General for ya :roll:

Quote from: Mr.7

Quote from: roguegeekThe only American cars I'd want to buy right now would be a Corvette C6 or even a Chevy HHR, but if a new Camaro does get released, I will be buying it.

I think that the Ford GT, Saleen S7, and Viper SRT10 all quallify as American cars that nobody would object to owning.

I would. For those prices, you can get much better European or even Japanese vehicles.

Quote from: Jake DWhat about cars that are affordanble that an enthusiast would enjoy?  Can't think of many.  GTO might the be on example.  C6, cha-ching.  Cobalt SS, maybe.  New Mustang, is the best example.  There are many affordable performance type imports.  The Big 3 need to recognize.

I probably wouldn't throw the GTO into affordable. Most people can't afford a $35k+ vehicle. The one vehicle that screamed to me when you said affordable for the enthusiasts was the Pontiac Solstice. That's an amazing car for the price. :thumb:

mustang, lol, where?  get your eyes checked people!

i see a camaro....gimme one!!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/camaro_1.jpg)

camaro:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/100_0313.jpg)

mustang:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/Raul_jrs_65_mustang_side_shot.jpg)

Quote from: Mr.7I think that the Ford GT, Saleen S7, and Viper SRT10 all quallify as American cars that nobody would object to owning.

No thanks, I'd rather have another cheap CA '83 VW Diesel.  

Driving half a million miles a year I can't afford "GM reliability", "Ford tough".  "Ram tough" never kept me off the side of the road either.   :lol:

take a good look at those pictures...

the left and right side show different (slightly) treatments to the body, particularly noticable on the front 3/4 shots. I'd say its still at least a year away and is not a rolling chassis but a full size mock up of the bodywork. splitting the design L & R is a common way to look at different designs in auto design, from what I saw at Art Center...

here's the 05 mustang:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/05_Mustang.jpg)

Quote from: tabmustang, lol, where?  get your eyes checked people!

i see a camaro....gimme one!!!!


camaro:


mustang:

Quote from: GeeP

Quote from: Mr.7I think that the Ford GT, Saleen S7, and Viper SRT10 all quallify as American cars that nobody would object to owning.

No thanks, I'd rather have another cheap CA '83 VW Diesel.  

Driving half a million miles a year I can't afford "GM reliability", "Ford tough".  "Ram tough" never kept me off the side of the road either.   :lol:

Don't get me wrong, I don't really support american vehicles either. But who could so no to GT. I guess for the same money I could try to get on the waiting list for the new Aston Martin V8 Vantage. It's only beauty on wheels :kiss:

Quote from: tabmustang, lol, where?  get your eyes checked people!

+1 You guys are on crack! That things screams Camaro and I'll be the first to put my name down on the waiting list. :thumb:

I can see how the two seem very similar...  They are different, but not that different...

Now here is a sweet piece of engineering:

(http://www.pre67vw.co.uk/readers_cars/photos/113.jpg)

Soooooo cool!  AND it gets great gas mileage.   :thumb:

Those have always been and always will be sweet vehicles. I was looking in craigslist for a nice one just this morning. Maybe a Karman Ghia instead. :thumb:

I was never really into the Ghias...  But, you can easily sneak a Porsche engine in there...  and WHOOP!!! :mrgreen:

I really like notch-backs, but they're impossible to find and cost WAY too much. :dunno:

I prefer the notchbacks too. screw the porshe engine, just drom a 2180cc dual carb'd vw motor and you're good to go. I had a 66 with an 1835cc in it in high school. stinger exhaust sticking straight back horizontally, car dropped to the ground...mmmm...

Yeah...  Even a 17xxcc sucka would friggen rule...  2180 would be rediculous!   :o

And... Porsche engines are only cool in Ghias...  'cause they're just Porsches with a VW logo. :lol:

Some of these Notchbacks (http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/malook/gallery/004world/004world.html) are soo damn sweet.

I helped a friend of mine build a Ghia in high school.  It was awsome until the fuel line let go and started a fire.  We managed to get the stero out before it turned into a big fire ball on the side of the road.  Talk about a sick to your stomach feeling. . .watching all that money and work burn on the side of the road.   :(

Same here with the notchbacks. Gotta love em. Fastbacks are sweet too. I could do without the squarebacks. Still, the Ghia is my fav. Would love to find a nice reliable one in cherry condition.

Quote from: Jake DI helped a friend of mine build a Ghia in high school.  It was awsome until the fuel line let go and started a fire.  We managed to get the stero out before it turned into a big fire ball on the side of the road.  Talk about a sick to your stomach feeling. . .watching all that money and work burn on the side of the road.   :(

Every damn time I see a car fire on the side of the road, it's always a VW Bus or Bug. Once saw a Thing all lit up too. Unfortunately, it feels very common to me.

I had, not one, but TWO fire extinguishers in my bug.   :thumb:  :thumb:

Might be old new for some people, but it hasn't been posted here yet so I need to share. The concept is officially out. As soon as they give an official ok for a production version, I'm laying down my deposit. Most of the following images are linked to larger ones.

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(http://www.projectrich.com/blog/images/2006/01/07/camaro.jpg)

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If you can afford it then great.  I'll stick with my base model totota tacoma.

Oh, I love the tail lights on the Comero concept.  That red is dead sexy. 

And please, please, please, Chevy, quit putting that fugly brushed gold bow tie on everything?  What's wrong with an SS badge up there or a chrome bow tie?  Not that gold one.  Gawd.

  What motor is that?

400 - V8

That is going to be an awesome car.  I only hope that the Firebird follows in line, we will see.

I'm going to start the rumor about a Firebird concept right now.  Watch, and learn.

A buddy of mine used to be with GM in Detroit right after college.  He has since moved on to work for Toyota out in Torrence, CA.  He still has connections with some guys up in Detroit and talks to them often.  One of his former co-workers and (who he happened to introduce to his wife) told him, "I can't tell you what concept I'm working on, but it is code named "Bandit."

Take from that what you will.

And yes, Jake D just made that whole story up.  Or did he??
:dunno_white:

Quote from: natedawg120 on January 12, 2006, 12:53:34 PM
That is going to be an awesome car.  I only hope that the Firebird follows in line, we will see.

No Firebirds anymore. Pontiac has the GTO. The next one will be built on the same platform as the Camaro and will not be an oversized, overpriced, rebadge like the current one.

Quote from: pantablo on December 13, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
screw the porshe engine...

I dunno...having how easily a built 930 power/drivetrain slipped into the ass of one of things I'd have to say different.

Can't say I've seen anything like that one...650rwhp @ 22psi on pump gas.

And on the topic...if the next camaro looks and performs anything like the concepts, the mustang will kill it.  Again.