The Fast and the Furious
Too Fast, Too Furious
Torque
Biker Boyz
Matrix
Star Wars
...etc...you know the kind of movies I'm talking about.
I see people talk about these flicks all the time. It seems the second I turn on the internet I'm instantly assaulted by some moron wanting to whine about how a movie made 5 years ago was lame because motec doesn't make an exhaust or how tom cruise wasn't even japanese, how could he be a samurai (one of my favorites...poofters never even watched the flick). I typically LOVE going into thread where I know people are discussing these types of flicks for the sole purpous of making fun of the asshats that went to see them hoping for realism. Whot kind of idiot wants to go see a movie about reincarnating dinosaurs EXPECTING to see something actually possible? They should have their genes revoked. It doesn't require a great deal of foresight to comprehend that, when you see some dude flying around downtown manhattan with nothing more than a cape in the preview, that there may be some unrealistic abillity involved. I think was 4 when I realized that a towl wrapped around my neck did not give me the abillity to make it safely to the ground from the top of my house...did these guys ever gain this knowledge?
What I really don't get is that everyone I see bashing any of these flicks based on realism, is usualyl a devout fan of another. Two chicks tae kwon bike fighting each other is hard to accept but you went to see the Matrix because you wanted to watch something you could relate to your own life? I don't get it. We spent 80 years making movies that were far from realistic...vampires and monsters, a shot to the hear is a flesh wound, cops know before they leave the office whether they'll be shot anytime soon and wear their vest then? When did people stop wanting to see movies to be entertained?
Oh wait...I know when...
WHEN MOVIES STOPPED BEING ENTERTAINING
Movies have been going down-hill for a long time. You can thank the 90's mostly for this...the 90's saw some of the best movies to ever be produced...I couldn't help but to feel an impending sense of doom as I watched some...like Event Horizon: never going to be topped. That's when I started thinking about it...
Then somewhere along the way Jurassic Park's II and III were released, 6 different new releases were in the deerebrook mall's theatre starring ben stiller at the same time, 2 matrix sequals were released that proved that the original idea was definately stolen and that the wachowski brothers have the creative genious of my pee pee, American pie was hashed and hacked into stuff that just wasn't as funny...including a straight-to-dvd-soon-to-be-in-the-$5.99-bin band camp sequal?...I saw The Ring twice (The Ring and then, recently, Dark Water... :? :roll:), and the best way to make a funny flick it seems anymore is to curse a lot and cause lots of physical pain upon unsuspecting people...and lets not forgot unbelievable bad luck and misunderstanding. Do Ben Stiller movies literally piss anyone else off? I left Duplex actually angry. I'd have murdered the old Buddha Loves You and danced naked around her burning corpse. Same thing in the fockers...told the Buddha Loves You to take hike and take her f%&ked up family with her. What kind of person wouldn't defend the people they love against anyone? Every ben stiller flick has been more of an irritation than ANYTHING else...almost as irritating as knowing that the idiot's managed to get so much of the world to think he's funny. How the f%$k did that happen?
Movies haven't really been great for a long time...a few good ones slip through every now and then, just not a lot. I'm just waiting to see the third spiderman, X3 (even though I know they'll eviscerate the pheonix saga), and then I'll sit idly by hoping that episodes 7, 8, and 9 are made and released by someone with creative genious.
I really liked the Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy. Those were fun to watch.
I find it slightly worrying that during the "Golden Age" of cinema the sets were not that brilliant, usually fairly obvious flat stages, the stunts were basic and special effects hardly existed at all. So why do people harp back to pictures of that age, just possibly because great acting, direction, and most of all brilliant scripts carried the films rather than endless chases ans explosions. :?
There are great and good films made today but you just have to look harder. With the world-wide T.V., cable, Sat, Video & DVD market LOTS more films get made as they are a much safer financial bet now, as against in the 80s and 90s when the return relied on the cinema box office.
It's a business, so they make what sells, a lot of "Lowest common denominator" stuff. You can't blame the studios for turning out junk if it's what the buyers and distributers want. Sad perhaps but that's business.
There is good stuff out there, even from Hollywood, perhaps it takes a little more finding and remember to look outside of California occasionally there are a lot of people making films all over the planet. :thumb:
Movies suck. And to add insult to injury, as the quality goes down the freakin' ticket prices keep going up :x
Except for one time, I haven't been to a theatre in years, and in the rare event that I rent one, it typically results in a case of buyers regret.
I did go to see The Great Raid with my folks back when it hit theatres. It was a fair offering IMO.
Neflix is my friend. :mrgreen:
Zoolander was pretty damn funny. You have to admit.
Zoolander was funny!
I always prefer my own life to 2 hours wasted watching someone else's life; I'd rather go ride, play a game that interacts with another human being, talk to a teller instead of a machine...
Conversley, watching a movie and discussing it later with someone that has seen it may be good...
I've flushed things superior to Zoolander's finest moments.
I can't wait to see The World's Fastest Indian.
to update...X3 was tolerable but nowhere near the standards of X2.
I saw "Cars" last weekend. Plenty of chuckles for the grown-ups in the audience! :thumb: But I could have done without the kiddies behind me KICKING THE SEAT. :mad: :mad: :mad:
STAR WARS!!!?
How can you doubt the excellence of star wars you bastard a$*hole moth#rF*cking D*ck Smuggling d**che bag sucking butt pirate
Quote from: TadMC on June 21, 2006, 06:42:35 PM
STAR WARS!!!?
How can you doubt the excellence of star wars you bastard a$*hole moth#rF*cking D*ck Smuggling d**che bag sucking butt pirate
Dude, Star Wars I - III sucked so much. IV - VI were far better.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on June 21, 2006, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: TadMC on June 21, 2006, 06:42:35 PM
STAR WARS!!!?
How can you doubt the excellence of star wars you bastard a$*hole moth#rF*cking D*ck Smuggling d**che bag sucking butt pirate
Dude, Star Wars I - III sucked so much. IV - VI were far better.
ok I and II sucked, but three was much better and 4,5,6 were poop my pants awesome. Except those damn ewok, f*ck those damn ewoks
Run Ronnie Run
Did like Spiderman 1, and Underworld but in general most movies that come out are really bad, substiting special effects for good acting / scripts. And the prices togo to a theather is crazy.
Didn't like any of the new star wars movies 3 was ok, but the first two were terrible. Think alot of that was because the movies were so over hyped that no matter how it was made it would not live up to expectioations.
What about The Big Labowsky? That movie was awsome! What about Boonedock Saints? What about Snatch? What about Office Space?
I think you people Buddha Loves You about movies just to hear your head rattle. There are tons of great movies out there.
You don't like movies? Well don't watch them for pete's sake!
+1 for boondock saint and office space
-1 for snatch
snatch and lock, stock and two smoking barrels were awsome movies.
And when you guys Buddha Loves You about ticket prices, make sure you realize that its the film companies that set ticket prices, not the movie theatres.
Its true because I had a friend who worked at a theater, and was friends with the owner. Basically, movie theaters buy the movies from the production companies, and they try and break even with the price of the ticket.
They make their real money in consession (SP)
Quote from: Jake D on June 23, 2006, 09:51:55 AM
What about The Big Labowsky? That movie was awsome! What about Boonedock Saints? What about Snatch? What about Office Space?
I think you people Buddha Loves You about movies just to hear your head rattle. There are tons of great movies out there.
You don't like movies? Well don't watch them for pete's sake!
I'm with ya Jake. Also a big fan of anything Christopher Guest and I liked Match Point along with about a million other movies.
I have a lot of respect for the old time movies.. my favorite movie of all time is M directed by Fritz Lang scariest movie I've ever seen. Battleship Potemkin, Ran, and Entr'acte are some of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen. New movies, I'm a sucker for Jane Campion I leave every one of her movies dumb struck for hours. And..despite Michael Moores controversial topics and down right dip shaZam! propaganda hes a good film maker. From a cinematic stand point he does everything a film maker is supposed to. The opening scene from Farenheit 9-11 is one of my favorite openings along with Cote d'azur. I liked Skins, and Sin City too.
hehehehehehehehehhe Cote d'azur hehehehehehhehe
How about the opening 5 minutes of "Faster". John Hopkins testing the bike, coming at the camera straight on, Ewin McGregor saying, "Always fast-ah. An fast-ah. An Fast-ah."
I've got chicken skin just thinking about it.
ok gotta add das experiment..awesome flick...made in germany...can't wait to see 300...
the more I think about X3 the more I don't like it...and I'm sooooooooooo glad I didn't go see king kong at the theatres. Jack Black can't play a serious role for shaZam!. When he said "it was beauty killed the beast" I nearly shaZam! myself...the whole movie stank except for the 10 minutes in the middle where kong faught the rexes.
f%$king movies...
The departed, great movie.
I like Forest Gump,O Brother Where Art Thou,Sling Blade and the Only Movie worth Watching that Steven King Wrote or made or What ever The Green Mile.I still Like Star Wars and Spend most of my time Watching Oldies on TCM. :thumb:
If you want to watch good movies don't fu(king watch the popular ones... they are usually always (rap.. Try out some of these:
SLC Punk, Momento, Donny Darko, Requiem for a Dream, Garden State, Fight club, Swingers, A Beautiful Mind, THX 1138, Schindler's List, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Run Lola Run, Silence of the Lambs, Punch Drunk Love, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest, Soylent Green, The Pianist, American History X, Sling Blade, Gattaca, Alien & Aliens (but not 3 or 4), Kill Bill (I & II), Reservoir Dogs, Shawshank Redemption, Indiana Jones, Pet Cemetery.... those are just some off the top of my head.
I worked at blockbuster part time and got 5 free rentals a week, and I always used them. I've seen so many bad movies that are just explosions and $hity acting and primarily their the ones that are "box office hits", more like box office $hits if you ask me.
And yes I HATE BEN STILLER!!! I HATED meet the parents, duplex, zoolander, ect... and all other movies hence forth. He seriously makes me want to break something if I even see one of his movies on my television or someone suggests to go see one of his movies.
One more thing that makes me mad is, what the hell is up with commercials before the movies???? I mean seriously... I remember when it was just previews of other movies but now its a barrage of 10-15 min of commercials. What bs.
Yeah THX1138 and Soylent Green were Great.THX1138 is too under Rated.
SLC Punk was both odd and badass...I liked it.
The commercial things piss me the hell off...it's why I only go to UA theatres now...no commercials. My "I can watch commercials at home" comment always get a lot of laughs, though.
They say the 70's were the golden age of cinema... This is also a golden age for TV, with a lot of great cable shows being produced (I wouldn't know, I don't have cable). However for fans, actors, and people in the industry, that makes me happy.
Did anyone see Clerks 2? I was ready to like it, but the acting was so bad I didn't finish it. The best part was when Earl from My Name Is Earl came in and was pissed off. Otherwise it was like "We're actors again! Remember how we said that line in the first movie? It was so funny!"
I wouldn't say there's no good movies. But I rarely see a film in the theaters anymore, and I often leave the video store emptyhanded because I just didn't see anything worth watching when compared to counterstrike, Go, gstwins, PBS, maybe even porn. :icon_razz:
Some truly awesome movies:
HEAT
8 & 1/2, La Dolce Vita, and La Strada (black and white but still cool, elegant, and fresh movies by Federico Fellini, great Italian director)
The Tin Drum (crazy German movie... just watch it, it will blow your mind)
Anything by Werner Herzog, especially his documentaries
Anything with Klaus Kinski, Herzog's crazy actor friend in it... he's crazy. For example: Aguirre: The Wrath of God, My Best Fiend (documentary on their f'ed up relationship)
Top Gun
Last Of The Mohicans
The Seven Samurai (awesome old b/w film by Akira Kurosawa, inspired Magnificent Seven)
RAN (samurai epic)
Godfather I & II
Me And You And Everyone We Know (if you like art)
La Femme Nikita (original French version by Luc Besson only)
more later
OMG Nightrider we have the same taste in movies! I wrote a paper on Kurosawa for my World Cinema class! And I just made AJ watch Me and You and Everyone We Know the other day! :cheers: :cheers:
I would have to add Pepe Le Moko though...waaaaaaaaay better than Casablanca....and M because I'm obsessed with Fritz Lang and I love his play on silence...
Oh: top moto movies:
Dust To Glory (extreme dirtbike/all vehicle Baja 1000 race)
The Long Way Round (adventure touring)
The Doctor, The Tornado, and The Kentucky Kid (MotoGP)
On Any Sunday (older dirtbike doc with Steve McQueen)
Haven't seen Faster but will try to find that... looks good.
Nice Pastrana, I wrote down Pepe Le Moko, never heard of that one. U have good taste. Arent you the guy who sent me the fork tube end caps... ty.
I have no taste in movies. I like both good and bad movies, and it is awesome. I can enjoy almost any movie, despite how crappy it may be.
Some movies I couldn't stand:
Ultraviolet
Feast
Dracula 3000
Deep Core
ummm i don't think I sent you anything...plus I'm a chic lol... Definitely see Pepe Le Moko I'm a sucker for a good Japanese film noir too...
Brian its funny, cause I liked Ultraviolet....I HATED One Hour Photo (proceeded to put my foot in my mouth while bad mouthing it near a family member of the director) and The Thin Red Line. There's alot of movies I don't like...funny movies are usually included in my "hatred" category. We went to see Wild Hogs the other night...taken at face value it was decent...clearly not an amazing work of art but humorous and a good relaxing time.
The Thin Red Line is a work of art, it affected me deeply when I saw it. However in the theater there were ppl going "WTF?" and "Omg... what now". It's a stoner/spiritual war movie. I found it far more rewarding than Saving Private Ryan which came out the same year.
On the other hand Terrence Malick's latest one, the Lost World or whatever, was really slack and boring, couldn't even finish it. Not enough going on, too much abstract voice-overs with people being 'natural' out of doors. :icon_razz: Malick has a taste for the natural world that is sorely needed though I think.
If nothing else, the cinematography in the natural setting (NZ I think) was as good as anything else I can remember.
Something I REALLY want to see is Pan's Labyrinth. That and 300, but I really want to see 300 on the IMAX, but there aren't any near me that are showing it.
I want to see 300, too.
Past movies that I think are good, and fun:
Swashbuckler
Highlander
Flower Drum Song
Moulin Rouge
Crimson Tide
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Enemy at the Gates
Face/Off
Empire of the Sun
Equilibrium
Goodwill Hunting
Identity
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Fearless
Gattaca
Phantom of the Opera
Powder
The Rookie
Sabrina
Shogun Assassin
Hotel Rwanda (not fun, but good; serious)
One thing I find disturbing is people that get too involved in movies, and become so critical of movies that they no longer enjoy them.
my favorites are:
hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
lord of war
weather man
open range
big fish
secondhand lions
american history x
a clockwork orange
sin city
brick
run lola run
eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
bullit (for the chase scene)
italian job
walk the line
those are a few, i have a decent collection.
i think of the commercials in theaters like i think of most clothing people my age wear. Why am I paying for YOUR advertising? I don't want your logo on my clothes, i'm not putting your sticker on my car, i don't want to know about your freaking friends products when i'm paying half my paycheck to take a girl to the movies. Now, you want to pay me to wear your clothes, or give me the parts, or pay me to see the movie, fine. But screw you and your marketing consultant, i'm not paying to spread your name.
Quote from: scratch on March 10, 2007, 12:05:35 AM
One thing I find disturbing is people that get too involved in movies, and become so critical of movies that they no longer enjoy them.
I agree Scratch, sometimes I just want to sit back and enjoy a movie...even if its a crappy one...there's very few movies I just can't get through and idk why...I give most movies a chance though...I've got a collection of over 1000 dvds and am continuing to build...I get cheap thrills out of cartoons like Over The Hedge :laugh:
Over The Hedge was good and funny! Nothing like a nice wholesome, family-values movie! They don't make 'em like they used to.
300 wasn't as good as it should have been and they should have advertised it as having strong sexual content...some dipshit next to us brought his 10 year old son to a show that had plenty of rather explicit sex scenes...including one that was basically rape. Poor taste. The sexual content wouldn't have meant anything to me at all had it actually done something for the flick...I mean there was a 2-minute scne of some naked chick just randomly squirming around to crap-ass porn beat tunes a la the orgy scene in the second matrix flick.
The movie was beautiful from a cinimatic point of view. I loved the over-all sepia tone and the selective coloring. They did a wonderful job of making the Persian army seem as massive as it was...though, irl, it was even larger. They got a bit carried away with "imaginary" beasts and giant people and stuff...I was under the impression that the movie was supposed to somewhat be based on the actual event but oh well. I didn't go to see it for realism.
The battle of marathon would have been a better movie.