Two of my roommates and myself are planning a possible road trip this summer to either camp at Estes Park in colorado or Deals Gap in tennessee. My two roommates are riding an '04 yzf-r1 and an '06 yzf-r6(he's picking up this bike in 2-3 months). I'm still riding the GS, but hope to have a new bike by the time we do this trip in late july/early august.
I have a few questions though.
We don't have any trucks or suv's available to us, and we don't want to ride the 800+ miles on supersports.
What is the best option in terms of renting a vehicle that can transport three bikes, three dudes, and some camping gear?
I really want an '05 SV1000S, but by july, I'll probably only about $3,000 to put down on a bike. I have no credit as of now( I'm 20 years old), so Im thinking of asking my dad to co-sign with me on a new bike. But he rides a SV650, and he has a complex, that his sons' cant ride a bigger bike than him. And he doesn't know anything about bikes, so I'm thinking it might be easier to get him to sign on a 600cc I4. I will have over a year experience in May, and as of now, I have put 4,000 miles on my GS and can comfortably lean hard in turns - hard enough to wear at the pegs. I also have hours of two-up riding experience, and I took the MSF last summer.
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
Reminds me of my boss who rides a Harley. Come bike week, he trailers it down, rides it around townh, and thent railers it back :P My advice? Ride the 800+ mile trip on the supersports and stop being pansies :P
I did 900 miles in three days on a 2001 Yamaha R6.. highway down to VA, Skyline drive, then highway home. The ride was AWESOME and I felt GREAT at the end of it. If you workout (read: have good abs and strong lower back) you won't have any trouble touring on a supersport.
(http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/r/b/rbd123/skyline/R6packed.jpg)
And as for getting a 600cc I-4. I picked up that R6 two years ago after logging about 3000 miles on my GS, and I haven't tasted asphalt yet. :thumb:
Oh, and BTW, I now ride a 2004 SV650S and I seldom miss the extra power of the R6. Maybe an SV650 isn't such a bad choice. Have you ridden your dad's?
Also, if your stategy is to confuse your dad by getting maximum power with minimal displacement, consider also the Kawi636 and the Daytona 650/675.
It's my strong belief that if you can't sign to get the bike solo, then you shouldn't get it. I can tell you that Suzuki and Kawasaki are both ALWAYS very happy to help first time buyers.
Second, I don't think that going from about 50rwhp to 110rwhp is very smart, either (keep in mind that dynos can only measure torque and they place the SV at nearly 3 times the power of the GS). You should find a step in between...an older R6 or SRAD 600 or something would be a great middle step.
Third, supersport touring isn't bad at all. I do it on my TL1000S without any trouble...but SRAD's are pretty cushy.
Fourth, since my dad passed away last November, I've wished that I'd bought an old-school KZ900 just like the one he had. Complex or not, there's a lot of great things you'll regret not having shared with your father once he's gone.
Quote from: makenzie71It's my strong belief that if you can't sign to get the bike solo, then you shouldn't get it. I can tell you that Suzuki and Kawasaki are both ALWAYS very happy to help first time buyers.
I completely agree with MAK. A bike is something to enjoy. I'm assuming it is not your only mod of transportation. If it was, then go ahead.
I will always try to pay 100% cash for a bike because I don't NEED one... (Well, maybe my SOUL does). I also wouldn't ask someone to co-sign for a "toy".
Just my 2 cents. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Quote from: annguyen1981I also wouldn't ask someone to co-sign for a "toy".
Yes, point well made. However, I was just denied a "new to credit" credit card from both capital one, and citi - because apparently my credit isn't good enough... no kidding. I've never taken out a loan, had a credit card before, or ever had any bills - other than my cell phone(which i always payed the bills on time). How does that happen?
I figured getting a cosigner on a bike would help me build credit as well as have an awesome new toy..
First, don't deal with credit cards. Want easy credit? Get a cell phone.
Having a co-signer on a load does almost absolutely nothing for your credit. It helps the co-signer's credit a little, but you're getting the shaft.
As said, dealers are more than happy to cater to first-time buyers.
Quote from: makenzie71Having a co-signer on a load does almost absolutely nothing for your credit. It helps the co-signer's credit a little, but you're getting the shaft.
As said, dealers are more than happy to cater to first-time buyers.
Mak is right about the co-signer thing. I co-signed a car loan for a good tenant of mine ($4000) because he REALLY needed the loan. His curent truck was gonna cost too much to repair than it's worth. He paid off the loan on time, and MY credit went up, but when he went back to get another loan by himself, he STILL couldn't get it.
Definitely go through a dealer. They have more flexibility, plus they WANT you to get the loan.
My advice: Ride the GS until you can afford to pay cash for another bike. DON'T get caught in the credit card ring. This includes riding the GS 800 miles each way. ;)
I have a suggestion for a rental that would do the trick but take a lot of gas. You could rent a smaller box truck with a bench seat and that should be enough room for the bikes and gear. If you get a bench, which would be a must, it isn't the most comfy ride but it does the trick. You can even rent something one way and then rent it again, just set it up before you go, and that would be even cheaper then paying for it the entire time you are there.
Quote from: natedawg120I have a suggestion for a rental that would do the trick but take a lot of gas. You could rent a smaller box truck with a bench seat and that should be enough room for the bikes and gear. If you get a bench, which would be a must, it isn't the most comfy ride but it does the trick. You can even rent something one way and then rent it again, just set it up before you go, and that would be even cheaper then paying for it the entire time you are there.
Nate man, where ya been?
Jake
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Nate man, where ya been?
Jake
Well started a new job and have normal hours now. Actually have to do work so i have less "work" time to post whore and just been busy in the non-work hours. Its hard to keep up with everything anymore :lol: :lol: .
Tyler,
A road trip to the twisties sounds awesome.
You probably won't listen to me b/c I'm your brother, but...
You must be crazy if you think Dad is going to co-sign for you to get a new bike (no matter what kind it is). His co-sign for Ryan's truck was a very rare exception. Ryan had no transportation. The truck was necessary (not a toy) and he has a steady and sizable income as a soldier. There are some other reasons that I won't mention on this forum.
I agree w/ most of the guys on here, if you can't pay cash, don't get it. If dad co-signs your credit won't get any better. Don't get sucked into debt. I was able to finance my bike because I'm an engineer w/ a big salary.
Are your roomies over 25 so they can even rent a truck?
Quote from: JustinNoobTyler,
A road trip to the twisties sounds awesome.
You probably won't listen to me b/c I'm your brother, but...
You must be crazy if you think Dad is going to co-sign for you to get a new bike (no matter what kind it is). His co-sign for Ryan's truck was a very rare exception. Ryan had no transportation. The truck was necessary (not a toy) and he has a steady and sizable income as a soldier. There are some other reasons that I won't mention on this forum.
I agree w/ most of the guys on here, if you can't pay cash, don't get it. If dad co-signs your credit won't get any better. Don't get sucked into debt. I was able to finance my bike because I'm an engineer w/ a big salary.
Are your roomies over 25 so they can even rent a truck?
Listen to your family, man.
...I get cattle in from Ada all the time...wierd...