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Title: Experienced MSF course
Post by: annguyen1981 on January 29, 2006, 07:24:57 PM
Anyone take this yet?
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: that_guy on January 29, 2006, 07:41:59 PM
i have the class the 3rd 4th and 5th this weekend.  Looking forward to it..
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: 97gs500e on January 29, 2006, 07:57:26 PM
i took it abt 9 months ago
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: annguyen1981 on January 29, 2006, 09:05:19 PM
What did you think about it?
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Smokebombb on January 29, 2006, 09:36:16 PM
Took the class 3 weeks ago.  The go over basic operation of the m/c like using the clutch and switching gears.  Here is the crash course:

We practiced swerving, emergency braking, switching lanes.  The told us not to use the brakes while cornering or swerving.  They taught us to slow before a curve, and then look at the exit of the curve as you roll on the throttle. 

The course was very helpful for a complete newbie like me  :icon_rolleyes:  I now have those techniques that I can practice on the weekends.

-Adam
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Alphamazing on January 29, 2006, 09:42:20 PM
Quote from: Smokebombb on January 29, 2006, 09:36:16 PM
Took the class 3 weeks ago.  The go over basic operation of the m/c like using the clutch and switching gears.  Here is the crash course:

We practiced swerving, emergency braking, switching lanes.  The told us not to use the brakes while cornering or swerving.  They taught us to slow before a curve, and then look at the exit of the curve as you roll on the throttle. 

The course was very helpful for a complete newbie like me  :icon_rolleyes:  I now have those techniques that I can practice on the weekends.

-Adam

That's the BRC. He's curious about the ARC, the advanced rider course. I'm curious as well. I'm probably going to take it in a few months after I get some free time.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 12:54:50 PM
I've been thinking about taking it...

But, what I should do is take my GS down to the lot and see if I can pass the BRC test on it...  I think I'd fail.   :oops:
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: calamari on January 30, 2006, 01:21:46 PM
unless they teach how to break in a curve like valentino, i don't think i'm taking it anytime soon.

but hey, I think there's a course about riding on slick (wet) pavement or something. that it something I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: annguyen1981 on January 30, 2006, 01:32:16 PM
Thankz Alpha.

RVertigo - Why are you considering taking your GS to the BRC?  They provide a bike for you, so if you fall, it's not your bike your hurting.  The ARC on the other hand, you HAVE TO  have your own bike.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 01:57:54 PM
I'm talking about heading down to the place where they teach the BRC when they're not there and running the course on my own...  They don't let you take your own bike to the BRC around here.

If I could actually manage the BRC on the GS, then I think I'd be ready to think about the ARC.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Trwhouse on January 30, 2006, 02:28:47 PM
Hi there,
I took the advanced class here in PA last summer. It was fabulous.
I've been riding for 31 years and it was a great refresher class.
Panic stopping, evasive manuevers, control techniques and more were part of the all-day class.
Here in PA the class is free, but had there been a charge for the class, it would have been well worth it.
No one who rides can miss the benefits of this class, in my opinion.
Being a better rider is always a good thing.
Good luck,
Yours,
Todd
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: FedExMike24 on February 01, 2006, 08:11:15 PM
I rode my GS down to the lot where I took my BRC this last weekend to mess around on the course.. Everything is all painted on the concrete.
Man it sure seemed easy on those little 250s we rode during the BRC. My bike felt massive in those tight curves. Im worried if i Take the ARC Ill dump
my bike there.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Ardemia on February 01, 2006, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 12:54:50 PM
I've been thinking about taking it...

But, what I should do is take my GS down to the lot and see if I can pass the BRC test on it...  I think I'd fail.   :oops:

I doubt it man, I passed MSF BRC with no bike experience at all. Then again, I was a before and after case.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: John Bates on February 02, 2006, 12:57:07 AM
Quote from: Trwhouse on January 30, 2006, 02:28:47 PM
Hi there,
I took the advanced class here in PA last summer. It was fabulous.
I've been riding for 31 years and it was a great refresher class.
Panic stopping, evasive manuevers, control techniques and more were part of the all-day class.
Here in PA the class is free, but had there been a charge for the class, it would have been well worth it.
No one who rides can miss the benefits of this class, in my opinion.
Being a better rider is always a good thing.
Good luck,
Yours,
Todd

Yes......... :thumb:

The BRC excercises are repeated but at a faster pace and on your own bike. In Ohio it's pretty much non-stop, all day, outside with one short break for lunch (bring your own).  No indoor lecture.

cheers
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Jake D on February 02, 2006, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: subc on January 30, 2006, 01:21:46 PM
unless they teach how to break in a curve like valentino, i don't think i'm taking it anytime soon.

but hey, I think there's a course about riding on slick (wet) pavement or something. that it something I'm interested in.

My MSF instructor said the ARC was just like the BRC but on your own bike and without any classroom time.   Same skills.

Note: it rained all day before the last night of my BRC.  There were people that three days before had never ever sat on a motorcycle or shifted gears that were riding on wet pavement.  There was some anxious looks, but everyone learned to trust the tires right away.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: RVertigo on February 02, 2006, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Ardemia on February 01, 2006, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 12:54:50 PMI've been thinking about taking it...

But, what I should do is take my GS down to the lot and see if I can pass the BRC test on it...  I think I'd fail.   :oops:
I doubt it man, I passed MSF BRC with no bike experience at all. Then again, I was a before and after case.
I passed easily too...  But, that was on a little dual-sport...  I'm saying I should run the same course with my GS.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: gimpy on February 02, 2006, 02:12:27 PM
besides sharpen your skills, does it provide any breaks on insurance??
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: RVertigo on February 02, 2006, 04:56:52 PM
With some (most?) insurance companies it does lower your insurance...

Regarless of the insurance savings, it can be a life (or at least bike and gear) saver...  So, if anyone is ever on the fence about taking it... TAKE IT!
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: JRider on February 02, 2006, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on February 02, 2006, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Ardemia on February 01, 2006, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 12:54:50 PMI've been thinking about taking it...

But, what I should do is take my GS down to the lot and see if I can pass the BRC test on it...  I think I'd fail.   :oops:quote]

I'm taking the course this weekend and next weekend. I'm hearing that it is easy but I'll let you know how it goes for me[/
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: annguyen1981 on February 03, 2006, 09:45:31 PM
I don't really care about the insurance discount as much as I care about being able to avoid those fatal impacts.

When I took the BRC, I talked to the instructor about the ARC, and he said it was primarily accident avoidance and such.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: JRider on February 04, 2006, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on January 30, 2006, 12:54:50 PM
I've been thinking about taking it...

But, what I should do is take my GS down to the lot and see if I can pass the BRC test on it...  I think I'd fail.   :oops:

Today was my first that at the BRC course! At first, I had problems with the clotch and rolling the throttle when starting and changing gears. I got used to it after a while though. You should that the cousres but don't bring you GS. Use their bikes. It may be easier to learn on.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: RVertigo on February 06, 2006, 11:02:31 AM
OK...  I took the BRC...  I was talking about the ARC.  Oh nevermind...



Glad you took the MSF BRC.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: JRider on February 12, 2006, 10:05:21 AM
I Passed my BRC yesterday. Yeeeah! For thoses who are concerning taking it, just do it. I is fun. It is kinda like riding go-carts. More importantly, I learned a lot of good safety tips. If you are a new rider in california and you want to take this course, get your permit first. B/C with sucessful completion of the BRC course, you still have to obtain your permit before getting your license anyways. If you get your license before completing the course, all you have to do is take the paper work that the BRC will mail to you to the DMV. You don't even have to wait in line. Just walk straight up to the licensing window.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Thor S Magic Bathtub on February 14, 2006, 08:40:39 AM
Anybody else here given a 125 to ride at BRC? So far I've only heard of 250's from everybody else, but when I took it, I rode a Honda 125. It was teensy tiny, and had to be in 3rd gear to go 25mph. But that was good for me b/c I'd never touched a bike before.
Title: Re: Experienced MSF course
Post by: Alphamazing on February 14, 2006, 09:29:40 AM
We got Kawasaki Eliminator 125s, or whatever Kawi's itty bitty cruiser bike is.