What's the best technique to get the 500 up on one? I know of many, just looking for another opinion.
This is like the 4000th wheelie post, so a search might give you everything you need to know.
But mostly you need high revs and a dump of the clutch. I've never done this but most report that they rev between 5000 and 6000 RPM while rolling along at about 5 mph and then let the clutch out.
Wheelying is bad for your motor. Usually, it deprives the motor of oil, which ain't good. But if you decide to try it, you better be careful. It can be dangerous too.
One guy can roll on the throttle and wheelie but he has to "bounce on the forks."
Just try searching this board and you'll see all the pros and cons.
My bike will power wheelie..but i dont weigh anythign and i wind it right nup and have a 15t sprocket and a bunch of mods...
Its bad for the forks too...if u want to wheelie get a beater dirtbike or a wrecked stunter I4...
Just take the rear wheel off and it'll feel like you're always busting a fat wheelie. :thumb:
Quote from: melloGS on January 30, 2006, 11:01:39 AM
What's the best technique to get the 500 up on one? I know of many, just looking for another opinion.
It's pretty much a waste of time. Get a 91 Ninja that looks like shaZam! and may have been dumped. Practice on that in a parking lot or your own property. The GS is not made for that and it will take a lot of effort to get it up.
I'm not shaZam!-talking you trying to wheelie; I watch the videos and think it looks sweet too. But the GS isn't the bike for it. Get an R6; you won't be able NOT to wheelie. ;)
you guys must be full of shaZam!, i got many mods, and my gs500f will wheelie right from a take off!!! Mind you i do a bit of drag racing at the strip!! But our group Ruztico riderz are stuntbikers, and my gs500f is a blast to play with, clutch in first or second will pick it straight up in the air, and also just by cracking on her around 10mph will pull you right on your back, i'm gonna get the wife to take some pics of me and i will post them!!
Quote from: chefod on January 30, 2006, 03:01:53 PM
you guys must be full of shaZam!, i got many mods, and my gs500f will wheelie right from a take off!!! Mind you i do a bit of drag racing at the strip!! But our group Ruztico riderz are stuntbikers, and my gs500f is a blast to play with, clutch in first or second will pick it straight up in the air, and also just by cracking on her around 10mph will pull you right on your back, i'm gonna get the wife to take some pics of me and i will post them!!
That's the big difference.
Mine is modded too and will do it...but thats not the point. The gs isnt built to be able to take that kind of abuse stock. An I4 can take it because if you're riding them the way they are designed to be ridden, you cant avoid it. Plus they know people are stupid and will do it on the street too. Without the mods, youre asking for trouble.
you can wheelie a 70's moped if you wanted to. mine doesnt like it too much, it takes abit of effort to achive it.
i have a NON mod gs500f and i stand it up pretty easy . with out much effort .. you just have to get the right rpm range
i can power wheely 1,2,and 3
no not realy but i can get it up in first but cant hold it.
I can wheelie on an 80cc dirtbike...i was mainly asking cause i can slightly get it up on one wheel by just doing the rev high, chop throttle, wot in 2nd, my gs is stock...I know i could do it by clutching, but i know that's bad for the clutch. Wheelies are cool. Thanks for all the replies, and thanks for not giving me a preach/bash session for asking :)
With my fully stock bike I could pull up wheelies in first.(as seen in pic<<<<<<)
Basically the same old- ride along at 5-10 km/h, pull in the clutch, pull back on the throttle building revs quickly, then just dump the clutch and hold on.
There are some tricks though. First one is, if you want to carry the wheelie for a while, you need to keep twisting the throttle as the front wheel is lifting. if you just rev it up and pop the clutch, and then roll off the throttle as the wheel comes up, the front wheel will go way up, and then come slamming back down, usually busting fork seals and aiding in breaking the old speedo cable. (well that's how I broke my speedo cable.) What you need to do is roll along, pull in the clutch, twist the throttle building revs, pop the clutch, then as it comes up, roll off the throttle just a little, and right when it gets to the point where the front wheel has hit its highest point, you twist the throttle to completely, or almost completely open. This will carry the wheelie until you hit the rev limiter in first gear.
The best thing to know is that when learning to wheelie, START SMALL, and GO SLOW. I honestly cannot stress this enough. Even if you want to go super big and you think you can do it right off the start, DON'T! You're going to hurt yourself, and worse yet, your purdy bike. Slowly build up your confidence and skill and eventually you can go bigger and slower. (doing slow wheelies is actually much harder than doing fast ones) when you get better you can try stand ups, or shifting gears while riding out a wheelie.
I have a very short video of me doing a first gear wheelie on my GS. If anyone's interested I'll post it up. Its actually the video that my pic is captured from.
The other thing to know is that just for even thinking about doing a wheelie, there are those that will call you a squid. Personally, I don't like judging people with the whole "squid" thing, but I think you're pretty dumb if you're doing wheelies on the street. Keep it to deserted cul-de-sacs and parking lots. So just be prepared to get called a squid by people, even if you're being safe.
Also note that this info is for use on the GS500 ONLY! If you try this method on a modern 600 or anything else with more than 40hp, you'll end up on your A$$.
I think I had more stuff I wanted to add, but I can't remember it anymore, so I'll post it up if I think of it.
nothing on me "gets up" anymore, the bike, the peni... nevermind, I'm drunk... :cheers:
Hey if u need cialis i can get it for you lol
Quote from: SmartDrug on January 30, 2006, 11:26:25 PMI'm drunk... :cheers:
:cheers: Me too!!!
Wheelies... Yeah... A stock GS... STOCK... Can do wheelies.
Do what I did... Here's the trick... Ride around until you're used to your clutch, then adjust it so the action is all at the end. While you're out riding trying to get used to the new adjustment, find some crazy chick (that was just yelling profanities at you with her little kids in the car) and race her away from a light... 100% guaranteed wheelie. :thumb:
But, really... Learn to whip the twisties and leave the tricks to the crash jockeys (or get a junker to trick on).
leave the tricks to crash jockeys...why not then say, leave whipping the twisties to moto GP racers... :icon_twisted: ;)
Quote from: melloGS on January 31, 2006, 09:36:48 AMleave whipping the twisties to moto GP racers... :icon_twisted: ;)
Stunting is really rather bad for your moto... Wheelies cause the oil to roll back and away from the pump, causing your engine to be starved of oil... Then landing it is hard on the already crappy front shocks and may actually screw up your front end... Not to mention the higher chances of crashing and totally screwing up your bike.
Pushing your own riding limits in the twisties isn't going to push the limits of the GS... You
might be able to push the limits of the GS on a track, but you'd have to be a damn good rider... Then you could go get a race bike and race for years before you could push the limits of that bike.
The GS is a medium sized, low priced bike with the heart of a racer... It was made to be flipped in the twisties... :thumb:
But, it wasn't made to be up on one (even though you
can do it). :dunno_white:
If you
really want to wheellie, you can clutch it up pretty easily... Even stock, but especially with a 15T or 14T front sprocket, pipe, rejet, and K&N.
Quote from: melloGS on January 31, 2006, 09:36:48 AMleave whipping the twisties to moto GP racers... :icon_twisted: ;)
The GS is a medium sized, low priced bike with the heart of a racer... It was made to be flipped in the twisties... :thumb:
If you
really want to wheellie, you can clutch it up pretty easily... Even stock, but especially with a 15T or 14T front sprocket, pipe, rejet, and K&N.
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Well actually the GS was made to be a cheap reliable daily driver, not a stunt bike, or a track demon, but its quite proficient at them both.
Right on guys... i'd rather hit the twisties anyway :)
Really though... Do what you want with your GS... Just remember that plastic is expensive. :icon_razz:
For anyone who's interested, a short cliip of a GS wheelie.
http://media.putfile.com/one-wheel
Quote from: budget speed demon on February 02, 2006, 04:17:10 PM
For anyone who's interested, a short cliip of a GS wheelie.
http://media.putfile.com/one-wheel
That thing stood right up. Nicely done.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on February 02, 2006, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: budget speed demon on February 02, 2006, 04:17:10 PM
For anyone who's interested, a short cliip of a GS wheelie.
http://media.putfile.com/one-wheel
That thing stood right up. Nicely done.
That was straight clutching it up, no bouncing or any fancy crap. I can do them a little longer than that, but just till the end of first gear.
When spring rolls around I wanna learn shifting into second while on one, and slow stand ups (basically finding the balance point)
Also planning to get some track time in this summer :)
Awsome! :thumb: :thumb:
From what i hear, when people shift in a wheelie, they do it clutchless...
Quote from: melloGS on February 03, 2006, 10:06:44 AM
Awsome! :thumb: :thumb:
From what i hear, when people shift in a wheelie, they do it clutchless...
yes I know, thats why I havn't tryed it yet. I'm gonna get speed shifting down first (on two wheels), then take it to one wheel.
Quote from: budget speed demon on February 03, 2006, 03:32:05 PMyes I know, thats why I havn't tryed it yet. I'm gonna get speed shifting down first (on two wheels), then take it to one wheel.
It's pretty easy to do it... And it only takes timing and a quick wrist to be good at it.
Sometimes I still screw up the shift, but most of the time it's so fast you can't even tell I shifted.
from what I under stand is that its just;
roll off the throttle just a touch, give a strong swift kick up to the shifter and pull back on the throttle.
I've also heard that it wears out the doggs
What I do (and what I was told to do) is to put slight shift pressure on the shifter and blip the throttle real quick...
It works pretty well... When you get the RPMs up, the bike wants to shift... Just a little pressure and a real quick throttle blip... BAM!!! It shift...
Yeah... I've heard it wears it out too... Just don't do it all the time I guess.
Oh yeah... Don't down-shift that way... BAD!!!
when I get my bike back out I'll have to try that.
I'll post pics and video's of my wheelies and what not when I get better at them... for anyone who's interested that is.
yea i guess when alpaha , me , css,stray,and budrick go .. i'll have to see who has a cam .. :)
Quote from: FearedGS500 on February 03, 2006, 09:35:29 PM
yea i guess when alpaha , me , css,stray,and budrick go .. i'll have to see who has a cam .. :)
???? go? go where?
where headed out to big bend ,texas :) i posted up a texas ride and got a good response :) so now where up to about 6 ppl :) i seen we just got another new gs500 in the central texas area :) maybe he will want to join us .. where going on march 17th suppose to be pretty good . one of the guys from work went out there one weeked and said river road was pretty dang curvy so i have to go .. so i figured i would see who wants to join me :)
Ha ha that's funny, there's a street in Toronto called 'River St' and it's also a really nice curvy down hill run. a lil short though.
i'm gonna grab someone to take a quck video shot of me doing a wheelie :)
Nice! can't wait to see it
ok well i have videos i just have to wait for putfile to get off there mantin. deal so i can uplaod there .. there not to bad :)
Cool I'd like to see them. When you go to upload on putfile, and it says that you cannot because they're doing maintenance, try pushing refresh afew times. It worked for me the other day. :dunno_white:
ok ok ok ok here we gooo !!!
this one is the best stand up one i think http://media.putfile.com/standing54
another stand up . but kinda of a bad angle http://media.putfile.com/standing231
sitting down . it was really windy today so take that in to account ! http://media.putfile.com/stitting43
yet another . but i got a little brave and desided to try and take my hand off to point to the camra ... bad choice on a windy day ! http://media.putfile.com/sitting2
hope you enjoy !!
Is that the stock exhaust? Sounds pretty good... Nice wheelies! O0
yup all stock .. no mods yet :) . thank you !
You made a spelling mistake on one of the links.
This one works : http://media.putfile.com/sitting43
hell yea! :thumb: you're a madman!
So what is your technique to gettin on one wheel?
very nice. I havn't tryed any stand ups yet but thats next on my to do list.... just waiting for spring
your doing well accept you seem to be chopping the throttle too much, (open, closed, open closed) and thats why your kind of flopping from side to side. if you're smoother with the throttle then the entire wheelie will be smoother. I like the second stand up (with the girl in the background saying 'that was a good one') that was nice and high and even though you chopped the throttle, it was still pretty smooth. awsome work!
i tend to chop it cuz i can keep it up longer that way .. the two that you seen me vear off to one side is cuz it was windy .. i'd say anywhere from 15-20 mph . and the one where i did it at the end is cause i was gonna take my hand off and point at the cam but . thats not as easly done on a street bike as a dirtbike :P but none the less its almost all the same . oh and for the answer about my method .. i slip the cluch . its the easyest .. and almost the only way to get the F up that i know of .. but i'v never really tryed with out the cluch .. if you go from a 5mph roll .. then pull the cluch rev it a little and pop it .. it will stand up .. but if you try this go small before you try to go big .. bucause yes this big is low powered you can still flip it