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Title: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 13, 2006, 12:26:43 AM
Bike Bandit sells replacement OEM handlebars for $65.  Anyone have their OEM lying around their garage that they want to sell me?  How much should I be looking to spend to get my handlebar grips, accessories transferred over to the new handlebars?  TIA!
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: poormanracing on February 13, 2006, 01:03:44 AM
if you have a local cyclegear..they have bikemasters (close to stock but a bit lower) and drag bars (super low) for 21 + tax....you can also buy them at azmotorsports (ridenow.com).... :cheers:
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 13, 2006, 03:28:48 AM
Thanks for the helpful info and sites.  Can someone provide me with the specs for the OEM '97
GS500 handlebar?
Bend, Width, Rise, Pullback, and Center?

I'll need that info to determine which of Bikemaster handlebars to purchase.
http://www.ridenowonline.com/product_detail.aspx?item_guid=eb016cc8-73ed-4574-91b5-6163162d6c68
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: gtownsend on February 13, 2006, 06:22:41 AM
try suburban machinery, they have some great handlebars.  suburbanmachinery.com
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: annguyen1981 on February 13, 2006, 06:26:08 AM
Quote from: gtownsend on February 13, 2006, 06:22:41 AM
try suburban machinery, they have some great handlebars.  suburbanmachinery.com

I do believe the correct site is:

http://www.suburban-machinery.com/
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: 94suzuki500 on February 13, 2006, 06:53:31 AM
I put on some mx bars that I like, slightly lower, helps on my back.  and they are gold so they a beeee you teee fulll.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: scratch on February 13, 2006, 07:50:35 AM
Stock is 27.5" wide, 3.5" rise, 7.5" pullback, 4.5" centre.  The closest Bikemaster is the GP Touring at 27.5" wide, 2.5" rise, and 6.5" pullback.  You might also look into a Buell Blast handlebar or an original Buell Thunderbolt handlebar (see the Flander's handlebars site).  Also, a Honda Nighthawk 250 handlebar might work.  Search 'handlebar' with my username.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 13, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
Thanks scratch and everyone else that replied.  Just wanted to confirm that the OEM handlebar specs that you have listed would be the same for a '97 GS500e- which I have.  (I don't know if the new GS500f's have the same handlebar dimensions.)

While I'm at it, does anyone have suggestions on Foam Grip replacements?  Which brands have you used and which ones are recommended?
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: scratch on February 13, 2006, 05:13:05 PM
Why do you want to go with foam?  Rubber lasts much longer and doesn't get soggy when it rains.  I've used the Lockhart Superbike grips and am very pleased with them.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 14, 2006, 02:37:53 AM
Ok, last question on my handlebar topic. 

When I purchase the new Bikemaster GP Touring handlebar, will it be ready to accept my OEM bar ends (counter weights)?  Meaning:  will the long screw that goes through the bar ends have something to attach to in the Bikemaster's handlebars?  I don't know if I to purchase the 'threaded bolt' that sits inside the hollow handlebar tube for these long bar end screws to hold onto.  (Just want to make sure I order everything I will need at the same time to save on shipping.)

And I'll take a look at the various grips out there and get a feel for them.  I want something more vibration absorbant than the thinly padded OEM rubber grips.  Been looking online and the Progrip 724's (Dual density grips - 120mm) are catching my eye.  Will all of the Progrip grips fit the Bikemaster handlebar or are there specific diameters of the grips which I should be aware of?  If so, what is the size of handlebar grips I should look into?  (I am finding differing grip measurements of 120mm, 125mm, and 135mm.  Is this the diameter of the grips?  If so, what diameter corresponds to the GP Touring's 7/8" handlebar?
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: oramac on February 14, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
I orderded bikemaster drag bars, and they are hollow...no place for stock bar ends.  You'll need to buy aftermarket bar ends with the expandable rubber inserts.  I got a set in anodized gold... they are purdy on my yellow bike.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: Alphamazing on February 14, 2006, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: oramac on February 14, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
I orderded bikemaster drag bars, and they are hollow...no place for stock bar ends.  You'll need to buy aftermarket bar ends with the expandable rubber inserts.  I got a set in anodized gold... they are purdy on my yellow bike.

That's how our stock bar ends work, though. The rubber expands inside the bar and keeps it stuck there.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: mjm on February 14, 2006, 09:39:33 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on February 14, 2006, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: oramac on February 14, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
I orderded bikemaster drag bars, and they are hollow...no place for stock bar ends.  You'll need to buy aftermarket bar ends with the expandable rubber inserts.  I got a set in anodized gold... they are purdy on my yellow bike.

That's how our stock bar ends work, though. The rubber expands inside the bar and keeps it stuck there.

Before 2001 the GS used metal inserts welded inside the bar that the bar end screwed into.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: Alphamazing on February 14, 2006, 09:44:55 AM
Quote from: mjm on February 14, 2006, 09:39:33 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on February 14, 2006, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: oramac on February 14, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
I orderded bikemaster drag bars, and they are hollow...no place for stock bar ends.  You'll need to buy aftermarket bar ends with the expandable rubber inserts.  I got a set in anodized gold... they are purdy on my yellow bike.

That's how our stock bar ends work, though. The rubber expands inside the bar and keeps it stuck there.

Before 2001 the GS used metal inserts welded inside the bar that the bar end screwed into.

I don't remember that on my '92...
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: //ACCIDENT on February 14, 2006, 10:38:24 AM
I just took apart my 97 and the bar ends are screwed into the handle bar with a long screw running through the counterweight...
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 14, 2006, 11:06:21 AM
Quote from: //ACCIDENT on February 14, 2006, 10:38:24 AM
I just took apart my 97 and the bar ends are screwed into the handle bar with a long screw running through the counterweight...

So it looks like I won't be able to use my OEM bar ends / counterweights on the Bikemaster bar...  Boo!  I think the aftermarket ones are shorter... a new search continues!
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: fettcols on February 14, 2006, 11:57:17 AM
If you're interested I have a set of stock '04 bars in my garage. Never crashed or anything.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: scratch on February 14, 2006, 12:17:49 PM
You can use the stock handlebar weights, but you still have to buy the Lockhart, or whatever brand, bar ends and use the rubber part.  I had to go to a hardware store to buy a pair of really long screws and nuts to be able to use the stock bar ends.   I also suggest using a lock washer, too.  I didn't on mine and it took a lot of fast twisting of a screwdriver, because I used plain washers instead. :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: snopyro on February 14, 2006, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: fettcols on February 14, 2006, 11:57:17 AM
If you're interested I have a set of stock '04 bars in my garage. Never crashed or anything.

I might be interested.  What are the differences between teh 2004 vs. 1997 handlebars?  How much do you want to sell them for?
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: chandra.hp on February 14, 2006, 04:09:33 PM
I contacted Suburban Machinary and they qouted me with a grand total of $167 (after shipping) for one of their handle bars. That's pretty steap compared to other bars I've come across.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: Alphamazing on February 14, 2006, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: chandra.hp on February 14, 2006, 04:09:33 PM
I contacted Suburban Machinary and they qouted me with a grand total of $167 (after shipping) for one of their handle bars. That's pretty steap compared to other bars I've come across.

Yah, but the SM bars are really high quality and look fantastic.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: Dwn4whadever on March 03, 2006, 10:32:53 PM
Spec wise, not look, how much of a difference are you going to notice between the type 2 from SM and the Clubman thats on the ridenow website. I have a really hard time figuring out what the difference in measurements when i have no picture.  which one is going to be more aggressive.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: RVertigo on March 04, 2006, 02:38:08 AM
So, did you ever get bars and grips snopyro?

I like the ProGrip 719s...   :thumb:

And...  If you're going from an older style bar to one without the welded bit in it, what you'll need it the little expanding piece of rubber, a longer bolt, and the nut for the inside...  If you check the parts-lists for the 01+ you'll see what I'm talking about.

You can pick the parts up from a stealership...  (I did the opposite when I went from newer bars to older bars)...  Or you can order them on-line.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: pantablo on March 04, 2006, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: dwn4whadever on March 03, 2006, 10:32:53 PM
Spec wise, not look, how much of a difference are you going to notice between the type 2 from SM and the Clubman thats on the ridenow website. I have a really hard time figuring out what the difference in measurements when i have no picture. which one is going to be more aggressive.

I've seen the clubmans on the gs and they put the grips at a VERY low and awkward angle compared to the suburban-machinery bars. these feel natural, just like clip ons feel. they're even lower than the clipons that come on the US version 89 model gs (or all the euro models). Check my site for pictures of the SM bars installed.

One of the old members here that was local to me swapped his OEM with a Drag bar from bikemaster. they're almost straight and leave your wrists at an awkward angle too. not too uncomfortable but noticeable.

Srinath, another member here was making knock-offs of the SM bars for about $50. not as nice aesthetically but functional.

One other thing to consider with the cheap bars that no one has mentioned. The switchgear (turn signal cluster, and starter cluster) have a little nub on the inside that fits into a hole in the OEM bar to make sure it doesn't turn on the bar. The SM bar also has that. None of the other aftermarkets come with that hole, leaving you to either drill the hole yourself (not easy) or grind off the plastic nub from the inside of the switchgear.
Title: Re: Need a new handlebar - pros/cons of OEM vs. clubman/others? Where to buy?
Post by: Dwn4whadever on March 04, 2006, 04:18:17 PM
Thanks man I think i will just get the SM when i get the money. Sounds like they are more along the lines of stock as far as installing goes.