I believe that GSjack has deleted his account today. One by one, the best of this forum are being picked off. Perhaps Ticked Off is a better way to say it.
I've noticed a pattern forming. Someone new comes along, posts replies that profess that a veteran is full of it. A duel begins -- post & counter-post, and the newbe keeps at it (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/redshift/Poke.gif), 'til the veteran becomes so annoyed that a knee-jerk reaction ensues.
We are diminished each time this happens. For sure, the newbe that pissed off the veteran provides a poor substitute. Perhaps the veteran should have a tougher skin, but I don't blame them. We're here for our own enjoyment and willingly helping each other with our experiences. If it isn't fun, why stick around.
Jack, if you're still watching -- please come back.
+1. jack i always enjoyed your contributions to this forum.
u newbies wont get rid of me that easy :flipoff:
DOes anyone know what happened???
what does deleting the account accomplish? how does an individual (or incident) drive you to do such a thing? do you still not love us? doesn't rest of us count? please come back?
Quote from: ajgs500 on February 13, 2006, 06:42:13 PM
DOes anyone know what happened???
Are YOU seriously asking that??
Yup
I thought that he was mature enough to put up with our BS but???????
Quote from: RedShift on February 13, 2006, 06:33:46 PM
I've noticed a pattern forming. Someone new comes along, posts replies that profess that a veteran is full of it. A duel begins -- post & counter-post, and the newbe keeps at it (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/redshift/Poke.gif), 'til the veteran becomes so annoyed that a knee-jerk reaction ensues.
For sure, the newbe that pissed off the veteran provides a poor substitute.
You honestly did not get the sense that maybe this is referring to you OR fights that YOU either started or have been involved in??
Well considering he has been here thru Joerocker and shaZam!........ and most of these"fights" I dont start... and by all means NO ONE is holding a gun to his head making him read anything!!!!!!!
Finger pointing is gonna get us all real far :icon_rolleyes:
AJ never accused him of being full of shaZam!/fought with him btw
I know that no one is being forced to read, but that really makes no sense b/c you don't know that it's another fight until you read it. I mean, nice threads turned into fights in the middle of people discussing things, or after someone threw in an offensive/stupid comment. I'm not trying to start a fight with you b/c I do not want to contribute to that! But I do just want to point out what fighting, in plain view of everyone here, does to the morale of the board...it makes good people leave. I hope that from your last fight you were involved in, you learned to keep it to PM's if you feel that you need to always say something back to people, instead of ignoring them. We all know this crap with you and Ed isn't ending anytime soon, so just think about this before ruining another nice thread.
The end.
Goodnight all.
It started here: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=8012.msg246285#msg246285
But, now I can only conjecture as to how GSJack took this post (it's after his first post). Either as an attack, or whatnot. The damage has been done. But, there is a lesson to be learned here, and that is to not be antagonistic! We have a few here that are not overly blessed with public relations, I will not name anybody. Do these people know that they are confrontational? Some do. But, do they do anything about it. NOOOoooOoo! I have personally been sickened and depressed about another thread. And, Nobody left! I found it depressing that I, as a moderator, had to read all 7 pages of drivel to figure out who and what happened, just to be fair [to everybody involved]. I had to simply tard it. It's sickening [to me] that people just can't get over themselves, or others. While this may be normal (people are people (Depeche Mode comes to mind...)) to/for some people, it is not commonly socially acceptable behavior. The price of freedom is vigilance. Watch what you say, or it will be regulated for you. For those that can't control themselves, a control (restraint, ban, whatever) will eventually be found. Ride your motorcycle like a nob, and guess what, the man is gonna shut you down. Want to keep your motorcycle running, do the maintenance. Now, I'm not gonna leave, but if we don't watch ourselves, we're going to loose other's with valuable knowledge. I hope you care enough to keep this board as one of the freindliest, welcoming and Understanding boards on the net. Think of what you post says to others. Do the right thing.
Be considerate.
Quote from: SuZuki10 on February 13, 2006, 07:30:12 PM
I know that no one is being forced to read, but that really makes no sense b/c you don't know that it's another fight until you read it. I mean, nice threads turned into fights in the middle of people discussing things, or after someone threw in an offensive/stupid comment. I'm not trying to start a fight with you b/c I do not want to contribute to that! But I do just want to point out what fighting, in plain view of everyone here, does to the morale of the board...it makes good people leave. I hope that from your last fight you were involved in, you learned to keep it to PM's if you feel that you need to always say something back to people, instead of ignoring them. We all know this crap with you and Ed isn't ending anytime soon, so just think about this before ruining another nice thread.
The end.
Goodnight all.
Well Ed is a world class @$$hole and doesnt know how to pm back or I would address him thru such means. And in no way am I the one who drove RG from the board....... hmmmmmm..... I think that was Mak. I will never ever let f%$k with me ever. And as far as morale goes take a look around and all of the horrible shaZam! going on in the world and u complain about the morale on some forum, please keep going I want to laugh some more.
There we go, another completely useless and unnessessary post.
Well if mine is useless then hers is too. People accuse u of shaZam! that isnt true and u dont respond, whatever. But thanks scratch for proving that this wasnt any of my doing.
I regret posting this. I don't regret the vent, just regret the reaction. Maybe I (should I broaden to We?) also need a thicker skin and if a post goes from informative to annoying, just move on. Our loss, and I'm not smiling about it.
In case this is a surprise to anyone, the other thread that set GSjack off was Right 15 tooth sprocket for the 2004 Gs500F (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=21529.0). Jack erased his replies, but I think you can get the gest from what's left.
Time to take my own advice...
i used to frequent the board a lot, an will be a 1 year member in a month or so, but theres so much bullshit that goes on, i feel as tho i am wasting my time trying to sift thru all the crap when i haven't been on for several days. i thought this site was about the gs500, but all i ever read is stupid crap, an soap opera material. half the people on here have nothing to contribute motorcycle wise, an u people know who im talking about. im gonna throw the blame on the people in charge for not "handeling" business. who else do we have to run off b4 the shaZam! stops?
I'm not gonna rant about what's been going on, but I will say that GSJack will be missed. I hope he decides to com back.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on February 13, 2006, 08:25:11 PM
I'm not gonna rant about what's been going on, but I will say that GSJack will be missed. I hope he decides to com back.
I'm with stupid. GSJack has been around since my lurking days, before I joined. I know whenever I have a question about tires, Jack is the one person whose posts I look for... I hope he comes back, along with RG, Kerry, and The Drunken One (who may or may not be back?)
There's very few people that have inspired me to ride but GSJack was one of them. Strange that he would decide to leave though. The thread in question didn't seem too hostile. It could have been building up like everyone said and he just got pushed to the edge.
I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again: when it comes to forums and online discussions, the best thing to do is to remove postcounts. For some odd reason, most people feel more 'experienced' or with 'right to say whatever' as their post count increases.
This goes for any kind of forum in any country in the planet.
btw, it is true that there is too much garbage lately. I rarely visit and just for 2 minutes or so, since there's only rants and fights going on.
But, this forum served its purpose... at least for me, since I found the advice I needed for the last 9 months to start riding motorcycles at 28 years old. I just feel bad for those who come here now searching for the same thing I needed and find lots of bs and useless posts.
Just when I was about to make 2 videotutorials (not that are needed, but some people {me} learn better that way) about changing oil and cleaning chain...
anyway, no offense to anyone with this post, but if anyone really feels offended, i'm sorry but I won't continue an argument about it.
Quote from: ajgs500 on February 13, 2006, 07:41:20 PM
Well Ed is a world class @$$hole and doesnt know how to pm back or I would address him thru such means.
why dont you just STOP ADDRESSING HIM? someone else makes a smart ass comment suck it up and leave well enough alone. if you cant be nice, STFU...I hate to have to tell you that...again.
Let the shaZam! go.
Then quit. Do u think I am listening??? At least I am up front with everyone and they know how I feel about them..... in no way are they required to care...... but i always admire that quality in a person(even thou who must not be named) so I try to do the same....... I also love how most people have not noticed how no one is fighting with Wilson anymore.......
Quote from: scratch on February 13, 2006, 07:43:57 PM
There we go, another completely useless and unnessessary post.
+1
Quote from: subc on February 13, 2006, 10:39:02 PM
I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again: when it comes to forums and online discussions, the best thing to do is to remove postcounts.
+1
I think that's all I can contribute to this forum without offending.
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 13, 2006, 11:01:21 PM
Quote from: scratch on February 13, 2006, 07:43:57 PM
There we go, another completely useless and unnessessary post.
+1
Quote from: subc on February 13, 2006, 10:39:02 PM
I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again: when it comes to forums and online discussions, the best thing to do is to remove postcounts.
+1
I think that's all I can contribute to this forum without offending.
+1, dont want to step on any toes.
-ash
Quote from: jordanearl on February 13, 2006, 07:55:29 PM
i used to frequent the board a lot, ------snip----- but theres so much bullshit that goes on, i feel as tho i am wasting my time trying to sift thru all the crap when i haven't been on for several days. i thought this site was about the gs500, but all i ever read is stupid crap, an soap opera material. half the people on here have nothing to contribute motorcycle wise, -------snip----- who else do we have to run off b4 the shaZam! stops?
What he said times 2!! :mad:
Also Srinath seems to be AWOL also. :dunno_white:
Please come back Jack, your knowledge and experiance IS greatly appreciated here!!!
Folks, I
DON'T CARE if "beta x theta = omega" or any of that other fancy math and theory stuff. I'm not designing the d**n bike, I come here to find out what
WORKS in the real world for the GS!!
And if someone thinks I stepped on their toes, then :flipoff: they :flipoff: must be part of the problem!!
Srinath is busy. He's come back specifically to say so...
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 13, 2006, 11:41:00 PM
Srinath is busy. He's come back specifically to say so...
Glad to hear that, thanks.
Quote from: ajgs500 on February 13, 2006, 10:53:31 PM
Then quit. Do u think I am listening???
I'd ban you before I quit.
I have had enuff, I'll donate 10 bux if a "solution" is found to solve "problems" that have occured as of recent.
-this isnt dave btw. previous posts should give you a clue as to who.
cant even post under ur own username
Quote from: pantablo on February 13, 2006, 11:58:14 PM
I'd ban you before I quit.
Is this turning into a duck waving contest? No sense in losing another member who contributes. Jack is gone, that blows, everyone agrees, but threats aren't going to help this at all, especially from an Admin. For what it's worth, +1 on removal of post counts, it just promotes stupid posts that perpetuate arguments.
Quote from: SmartDrug on February 14, 2006, 12:32:43 AM
Quote from: pantablo on February 13, 2006, 11:58:14 PM
I'd ban you before I quit.
Is this turning into a duck waving contest?
Not at all. I've warned aj to tone down her antics several times through PM. it keeps getting out of hand. I've banned her for a week as a warning (to her and everyone else). next time she gets out of hand it'll be permanent.
i'll also donate 10 bucks. what about something as simple as a voting council. we could select members to be on the regulating council, vote, and jsut ban people as we please. there is a point where nice turns into too nice. time for a crack down.
:dunno_white:
Quote from: pantablo on February 14, 2006, 01:22:44 AM
Not at all. I've warned aj to tone down her antics several times through PM. it keeps getting out of hand. I've banned her for a week as a warning (to her and everyone else). next time she gets out of hand it'll be permanent.
Thank God. By all means do it soonest. There's a solid 5-10 people who contribute nothing to this board, and by their immaturity and stupidity have pushed away people like Kerry and GSJack, who's experience we've all benefited from greatly. That's f'ing pitiful, and the people who've turned the board in the direction it's been tending know who they are. So do the mods. Just ban 'em and be done with it.
jeff
I say just lock / delete this thread ASAP before anyone posts something they'll regret later
Quote from: annguyen1981 on February 14, 2006, 07:41:52 AM
I say just lock / delete this thread ASAP before anyone posts something they'll regret later
YES PLEASE.
It seems like every week there is one of these threads that turns into a giant fight. I think that everyone needs to relax and realize that this is a freakin message board. Do I need to post the special olympics picture again people, I mean COME ON. Sorry, just my $0.02. (I'm sure they were unecessary and offensive so censure as you wish :kiss3:)
That sucks about GSJack.
I'm going to add him to my list of people I really miss from here:
Cernunos
Kerry
RG
Davipu
GSjack
This is the only message board I have ever frequented. As I learn what is okay and what is not okay, I find that when somebody tries to bait me, the best thing to do is close down the board for a few hours and think about what good it would do to respond. If I can't think of a really good reason, I just never look at that thread again.
Note: there really isn't a good reason to respond when baited. That being said, I think we should keep post counts. I think people should respect the people that have been here longer. GSjack deserved to be treated with that respect.
What ever happened to cernunos? I remember reading his posts.. then one day.. he was gone.. but I don't remember there being a problem like there has been recently...
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 14, 2006, 10:54:40 AM
What ever happened to cernunos? I remember reading his posts.. then one day.. he was gone.. but I don't remember there being a problem like there has been recently...
C had some serious health problems that led to him selling his bike, i wish the best for him, i hope to see him back one day