could be so damn difficult? I get home, I have about 2 hours of daylight, I have my sprockets, so I'm going to change my chain! Woohoo!
3.5 hours of work later I have a drop light, a swing arm back on (that took an hour and a half), a new chain, and at least one more hour of work.
Changing the chain is definitely a job for 2 people. It's surprisingly difficult to get that first swing arm bolt back in with only 2 hands. I finally resorted to laying on my back, supporting the weight of the swing arm with my legs, and using my hands to get the bolt in.
I'm going to sleep well....
Actually after you do it half a dozen times you'll start wondering the hell you were doing the first time to take up a whole evening and a case of beer.
Yep, with experience, you can do it in half the time, with twice the beer!
Oh, I see now what I did wrong. I wasn't drinking any beer! *Looks around* Heck, I don't even have any beer! I do have a nice bottle of Cuvee Noir and a tasty Chablis though. :)
Quote from: Egaeus on February 28, 2006, 09:13:29 PM
Oh, I see now what I did wrong. I wasn't drinking any beer! *Looks around* Heck, I don't even have any beer! I do have a nice bottle of Cuvee Noir and a tasty Chablis though. :)
Yeesh...why didn't you just have the servants do it!? :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
HEY PANDY
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just noticed you were a motorcycle god.
just paying my respects
Quote from: Egaeus on February 28, 2006, 08:48:17 PM
... a swing arm back on (that took an hour and a half), a new chain, and at least one more hour of work.
Changing the chain is definitely a job for 2 people. It's surprisingly difficult to get that first swing arm bolt back in with only 2 hands....
maybe i'm missing something but you dont need to remove the swingarm to get a chain on/off. To get it off, use a hacksaw or a chain breaker tool to pop out a rivet. To put chain on, use a rivet type chain (not a master link type chain) and use the chain tool again. It screws down on the rivet and pushes it in. whole thing shouldnt take more than 1/2 hr. 1 hr with beer.
Quote from: pandy on February 28, 2006, 10:07:48 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on February 28, 2006, 09:13:29 PM
Oh, I see now what I did wrong. I wasn't drinking any beer! *Looks around* Heck, I don't even have any beer! I do have a nice bottle of Cuvee Noir and a tasty Chablis though. :)
Yeesh...why didn't you just have the servants do it!? :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
Good one... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: pantablo on February 28, 2006, 10:59:34 PM
maybe i'm missing something but you dont need to remove the swingarm to get a chain on/off. To get it off, use a hacksaw or a chain breaker tool to pop out a rivet. To put chain on, use a rivet type chain (not a master link type chain) and use the chain tool again. It screws down on the rivet and pushes it in. whole thing shouldnt take more than 1/2 hr. 1 hr with beer.
You do if you don't have a chain tool.
Quote from: pandy on February 28, 2006, 10:07:48 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on February 28, 2006, 09:13:29 PM
Oh, I see now what I did wrong. I wasn't drinking any beer! *Looks around* Heck, I don't even have any beer! I do have a nice bottle of Cuvee Noir and a tasty Chablis though. :)
Yeesh...why didn't you just have the servants do it!? :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
Well, Jeeves would complain about the grease under his fingernails, and Charles was seeing after the Bentley.
Yea man, my next chain is going to have a clip-type master link. Easy on, easy off, and no fuss.
Hi all,
I'm with pantablo. You didn't need to remove and replace the swingarm. Doing so was a lot of extra work for nothing, which you can now count as a lesson learned.
The old chain could have been removed with a chain tool, or in lieu of that, a handheld grinder to take off the ends of the rivets so a link could be removed to take the chain off. Even a highspeed saw could be used. Many shops will let you borrow a chain tool for a short time, or find a racer friend or acquaintance -- they likely have one.
And you can certainly use a chain with the excellent and strong press-fit master links. If you use a quality chain and link, such as a Tsubaki or D.I.D., you would have been fine.
The comparatively low HP output of the GS500 means the chains are not stressed as on superbikes putting out 100 HP or more. So these press fit links are perfectly fine and safe.
I've worked in motorcycle shops and we used press-fit Tsubaki master links on all but the highest output sport and touring motorcycles.
You did fine, you just did more than you needed to do.
Best wishes,
Todd
Quote from: Egaeus on March 01, 2006, 06:29:20 AM
Well, Jeeves would complain about the grease under his fingernails, and Charles was seeing after the Bentley.
Well, hells bells, you should have had the housekeeper instruct the upstairs chambermaid to do it. If she wanted to keep her job, she'd have done it without complaint! If she got her hands dirty, she could always have been fired. You're obviously nouveau riche. :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:
But no worries...let me know if you need any other assistance, and I'll have my head housekeeper call your head housekeeper. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: 3imo on February 28, 2006, 10:46:50 PM
HEY PANDY <much bowing snippage> just noticed you were a motorcycle god. just paying my respects
Goddess, darnit! :laugh: :kiss3:
Quote from: 3imo on February 28, 2006, 10:46:50 PM
HEY PANDY <much bowing snippage> just noticed you were a motorcycle god. just paying my respects
Goddess, darnit! :laugh: :kiss3:
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I was trying being politically correct. maybe I shoulda said godperson.
Quote from: 3imo on March 01, 2006, 10:08:16 AM
I was trying being politically correct. maybe I shoulda said godperson.
purple pansy! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I probably should add that I also had an OE chain, so it was solid.