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Title: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 06, 2006, 09:45:43 PM
I'm wanting to put on clipons to lower the bars, but I would also need to move the pegs back a bit.  From my research, I need something called rearsets???  Not entirely sure about this...

Any info anyone?
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: Alphamazing on March 06, 2006, 09:48:52 PM
Rearsets move the pegs up and back, into a more sportbike position, rather than just the sport-standard type we've got now. Honda CBR F3 rearsets can be made to fit with only a little modification.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 06, 2006, 09:50:23 PM
What about the actual foot controls?  I asume they move with the pegs?

Is there a write-up on modifying the CBR's rearsets for a GS?
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: skoozi12 on March 06, 2006, 09:52:25 PM
i think this is it...yay pablo
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id46.html

if not i suck and im drunk so leave me alone
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 06, 2006, 09:56:57 PM
Thankz Skoozi!
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: skoozi12 on March 06, 2006, 09:59:05 PM
np i hope it helps. and thank pablo, he's the one with the freakishly awesome site. :cheers:


Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 06, 2006, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: skoozi12 on March 06, 2006, 09:59:05 PM
np i hope it helps. and thank pablo, he's the one with the freakishly awesome site. :cheers:




+1

I enjoy looking at his site for mod info.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pandy on March 06, 2006, 10:11:05 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on March 06, 2006, 10:04:49 PM
+1I enjoy looking at his site for mod info.

We all know ya' jus' have a crush on him!  :icon_razz:

(P.S. Who took over my account and posted that!?  :icon_mrgreen:)

:laugh:

(We *really* need a halo emoticon around here! :icon_twisted:)
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pantablo on March 06, 2006, 10:43:27 PM
be-have!

actually, a member who's local to me did the mod and its a bit more work than my site states...one thing that has to be done is that you need to retain the heim joint for the shifter rod and the plate it attaches to. then cut that plate off and weld the stock gs shifter to it. I'll email him to photograph it and maybe do a write up expanding on my page.

will get back to you.
pablo-
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: makenzie71 on March 06, 2006, 11:43:28 PM
I've put clip-ons and low bars on a lot of my bikes without rear-sets.  Try it first.  If you're comfortable, then don't waste the money.  I'm pretty suspect of your abillity to make the stock peg's clearance an issue.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pantablo on March 06, 2006, 11:46:06 PM
clearance might not be an issue but comfort might. James (the member I am referring to) was more comfortable with the rearsets and his Suburban-machinery bars. I can vouch that with the S-M bars my feet could have been a little farther back, but it wasnt so much an issue for me.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: makenzie71 on March 06, 2006, 11:48:48 PM
Yeah that's what I was saying...if he's comfortable with the lower bars and stock pegs then he has no reason to spend the $300+ on quality rear-sets.  Just a waste of money...
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: Alphamazing on March 06, 2006, 11:50:11 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 06, 2006, 11:48:48 PM
Yeah that's what I was saying...if he's comfortable with the lower bars and stock pegs then he has no reason to spend the $300+ on quality rear-sets.  Just a waste of money...

You can get F3 rearsets for ~$50 I think.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: makenzie71 on March 06, 2006, 11:51:43 PM
yeah but they're not very pretty and they have to be hacked up to fit...one or a combination of those two traits eliminates 90% of the people interested.  The kind of people who do tend to do this kind of thing do it on race tracks because it's cheap to repair and replace and it's mildly effective.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pantablo on March 07, 2006, 01:09:01 AM
left side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/pantablo/leftside.jpg)


right side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/pantablo/rightside.jpg)

I seem to recall an issue connecting the rear brake light switch too. James offered to write something up shortly (week or two).
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: Alphamazing on March 07, 2006, 01:10:14 AM
Yeah, those look real nice. 'Specially for stockers. If only I had some money...
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pantablo on March 07, 2006, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: pantablo on March 06, 2006, 10:43:27 PM
... that you need to retain the heim joint for the shifter rod and the plate it attaches to. then cut that plate off and weld the stock gs shifter to it.

its the opposite of what I said. Look at the left side picture again. the part of the stock gs shifter that connects to the shift rod needs to be retained, cut off the rest of the shifter and weld the heim joint to that.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 07, 2006, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: pantablo on March 07, 2006, 01:09:01 AM
lJames offered to write something up shortly (week or two).

Hopefully sooner than that...working on it right now...

-James
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 11, 2006, 02:25:58 AM
Okay, here's a basic CBR600 Rearset How-To:

http://three91.com/gs500/cbr600_rearsets/

I did the mod about 2 years ago, so the write-up was from my foggy memory (read: errors likely).  Let me know if you have any questions about it.

James
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 11, 2006, 06:10:51 AM
Quote from: chimivee on March 11, 2006, 02:25:58 AM
Okay, here's a basic CBR600 Rearset How-To:

http://three91.com/gs500/cbr600_rearsets/

I did the mod about 2 years ago, so the write-up was from my foggy memory (read: errors likely).  Let me know if you have any questions about it.

James

Thankz for the writeup!  BTW, great looking design for the write-up page.  simple yet different.  I like the light gray borders around the sections.  I never thought about anything like like before. :thumb:
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: Cal Amari on March 11, 2006, 10:53:43 AM
First-class write-up on that mod; now, you should consider posting it separately, to make it more suitable as a How-To...

What do the mods think about that? Anyone willing to make those instructions another How-To? I think they show more than enough detail to help others accomplish something similar...
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 11, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on March 11, 2006, 06:10:51 AM
Thankz for the writeup!  BTW, great looking design for the write-up page.  simple yet different.  I like the light gray borders around the sections.  I never thought about anything like like before. :thumb:

Well, I hope it's useful.  I have a feeling the procedure may be more complicated than most expected - it was for me.  None-the-less, it was very doable with my meager tinkering skills.  I did it in my free time over a couple week period - but I am REALLY slow and most of the time was spent staring at the parts, measuring, test-fitting, and balking at the idea of hacking up a perfectly good bike.  There's actually not much work to do.  If you know what you're doing and have the right tools, it might be done in a weekend or even an afternoon.  Still, I'd make sure you have some back-up transportation before starting so there's no hurry to finish.

I updated the write-up, including a parts list.  Same link: http://three91.com/gs500/cbr600_rearsets/

James
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: ASIA 1 on March 11, 2006, 09:17:35 PM
I found this web, hope it's useful to you?

http://www.motosd.com/Article_Print.asp?ArticleID=372
http://www.qcql.com/temp/GSX250.htm
http://bikepics.com/suzuki/across/

This is make in China by Suzuki china co. but this is a discontiguous item sine 199? year.

http://www.qssuzuki.com/     
email : qssxf@public.jn.sd.cn
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 11, 2006, 09:49:38 PM
Quote from: ASIA 1 on March 11, 2006, 09:17:35 PM
I found this web, hope it's useful to you?

http://www.motosd.com/Article_Print.asp?ArticleID=372
http://www.qcql.com/temp/GSX250.htm
http://bikepics.com/suzuki/across/

This is make in China by Suzuki china co. but this is a discontiguous item sine 199? year.

http://www.qssuzuki.com/     
email : qssxf@public.jn.sd.cn



The first two sites and the last are not english, so they definitely didn't help at all.. :laugh:

THe 3rd site however, WAS in english, but I didn't understand why it would help in this matter. :dunno_white:

EDIT:
I just realized that this is my 1000th post.  DAMN I NEED A LIFE!
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: Simba on March 11, 2006, 10:40:50 PM
Not much left of this one.

http://bikepics.com/pictures/168546/
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: ASIA 1 on March 12, 2006, 10:01:06 AM
Please zoom in the photo

http://www.qcql.com/temp/qcql330/10107.jpg

this bike chassis 99% same so just purchase left side rearset only no need any modification!



Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: JamesG on March 12, 2006, 03:51:44 PM
Or you could just buy CFM rearsets and bolt them on and be done with it... :dunno_white:
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 12, 2006, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: ASIA 1 on March 12, 2006, 10:01:06 AM
Please zoom in the photo
http://www.qcql.com/temp/qcql330/10107.jpg
this bike chassis 99% same so just purchase left side rearset only no need any modification!

ASIA 1 - Do the GSX250 rearsets place the foot further back and/or higher?  If so, that's an interesting option -  One would still need both sides, though, for a consitent foot position.  Any idea on N. American availability?

Quote from: JamesG on March 12, 2006, 03:51:44 PM
Or you could just buy CFM rearsets and bolt them on and be done with it... :dunno_white:

Yeah, the CFMs look nice... but they are a bit spendy. (The CBR rearset modification cost me under $50.)  How does the gearshift pedal work with the CFMs?
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: pantablo on March 13, 2006, 02:55:48 AM
Quote from: chimivee on March 11, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
I updated the write-up, including a parts list.  Same link: http://three91.com/gs500/cbr600_rearsets/

James

James, thanks for the thorough (and quick) writeup. I'll try to swap over the photo links with the descriptive text, along with a link to your page to a post in the FAQ section (with your permission of course).
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: JamesG on March 13, 2006, 05:30:06 AM
Quote from: chimivee on March 12, 2006, 06:39:17 PM
Yeah, the CFMs look nice... but they are a bit spendy. (The CBR rearset modification cost me under $50.)  How does the gearshift pedal work with the CFMs?

You get what you pay for. I have busted stock CBR footpeg assemblies, but never a CFM. They are very stout.  The "stock" GS rearset kit is set up to use the stock shifter, but you can buy the shift pedal and linkage parts (and they are very sexy) to convert it to a GSXR-like arrangement. Even set it up GP style.
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 13, 2006, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: pantablo on March 13, 2006, 02:55:48 AM
(with your permission of course).

Sure!
Title: Re: More agressive ride on my GS
Post by: chimivee on March 13, 2006, 04:11:38 PM
Quote from: JamesG on March 13, 2006, 05:30:06 AM
You get what you pay for. I have busted stock CBR footpeg assemblies, but never a CFM. They are very stout. 

No question about that.  I am certain that the CFMs are stronger, sexier, and easier to install.  My setup definitely falls more toward ghetto-rigged on the sliding quality scale.  But, it's functional, cheap, and has not yet failed.  Tinkering to make it work was a bonus.  I don't race.

Quote from: JamesG on March 13, 2006, 05:30:06 AM
The "stock" GS rearset kit is set up to use the stock shifter, but you can buy the shift pedal and linkage parts (and they are very sexy) to convert it to a GSXR-like arrangement. Even set it up GP style.

Sweet.