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Title: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on March 13, 2006, 05:51:58 PM
So here's my story: Early February I was driving home in my car from a concert. On the way home I hit a piece of pavement that was slick as could be. It was a combined factor of smooth road (very smooth, no texture on it whatsoever), a busted water main (wetting down the road), and me taking the corner too fast for those conditions. My car lost traction on all four wheels and I slid into a curb. I limped the car home at 20 miles an hour, because that's as fast as it could go without falling apart or damaging itself even more. For seven miles that thing shook like an epileptic baby on crack cocaine.

I finally got some time away from school where I could diagnose my problems. The rear suspension had a bent lower control arm and a broken bushing in the trailing arm. The front simply had a dented wheel. I think the rear might also have a dented wheel, but I'm not certain.

Well, coming across the lower arm wasn't too difficult in itself, but my trouble lies in finding a useable bushing in a trailing arm. The first place I went to had the trailing arm I needed, but when the incompetant workers were taking out the arm they broke the bushing I so desperately needed. After calling countless numbers of other places I finally found a place that had a trailing arm for me. I went to go look at it, but just my luck the bushing was wrecked. The left side bushing and trailing arm was in good condition though, so I went ahead and bought it. I figured I can just take the bushing from the left trailing arm and stick it in the one I've got on my car on the right side. Well, only after I got home did I realize what an idiot I am. Replacing a bushing in a trailing arm costs roughly $80. So now I've got a useless trailing arm sitting around that I have absolutely no use for. I'm going to go out tomorrow and find the right part I need with a good bushing as well as buying 2 new wheels. I'll hopefully be able to get it all installed by tomorrow afternoon so I can go get an allignment done in the early evening so my car is actually driveable.

Coming home today and realizing I had bought a completely unuseable part that was unreturanble was one of the worst feelings I've ever felt. I actually almost cried. Almost.

Tell me some of your stories where you work on something and have it break on you after all the time or money you put into it. Make me feel better people.  :cry:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 13, 2006, 07:32:32 PM
Ah yes... I know it well...

First car - '85 Nissan Pulsar... 
Next Car - '69 VW Beetle... 

I have more...  But, this post is way too long already.   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on March 13, 2006, 07:52:01 PM
I feel better already.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 13, 2006, 08:00:43 PM
Don't even get me started on my Ford. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: starwalt on March 13, 2006, 08:12:38 PM
Here you go, Pandy's already absolved me of my sin so...

Last weekend or so with the weather getting better here in South Carolina, I decided to finish up the front brakes on the 90 rebuild. After cleaning, repainting, and rebuilding my calipers  and master cylinders front and rear, it was time to fill 'er up, bleed them and move on to the next task to get this baby rolling.

I was so proud of the Galfer SS lines and my ebay skills a getting them. They really look good with all the new paint. "Let's do the front end first", I said.

Before cinching down the banjo bolt to seal the copper washers, I decided that the angle of the banjo was a little off for the line drape. "I'll just bend it a little to make the lay better." <fade in ominous music>

Using my best, large adjustable joint pliers, I managed to change the angle to nearly 0 degrees. Seeing that was easy enough, I tempted fate for just a little more angle. <music reaching crescendo>

"CLICK" went the interface of the banjo neck to the line crimp.....  "Damn!" said Doug holding the line still in the pliers.

$60 worth of BRAND NEW Galfer line rendered useless. <music fades...> The sucker broke in two. Damn.

Well, at least the banjo bolt is new and the copper washers are uncrushed.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: un1261 on March 13, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
FORD = fix or repair daily.

Ford = found on the dead.

Ford = @#%ked over rebuilt dodge.


Shall I go on?
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 13, 2006, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: un1261 on March 13, 2006, 08:15:00 PMFORD = fix or repair daily.
Ford = found on the dead.
Ford = @#%ked over rebuilt dodge.

Shall I go on?
I've come to realize that "Built Ford Tough" means that it breaks whenever it feels like it... Then it costs at least 1k to fix whatever the problem is...  So...  No need to go on.  It was my first and last Ford...  I talked to about 10 people that all said the newer Fords weren't like the 80's Fords...  Yeah... They're not...  They cost more to fix. :mad:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: un1261 on March 13, 2006, 11:30:08 PM
Could not help myself...had to get in some type of dig on Ford's whenever possible.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: pantablo on March 13, 2006, 11:44:41 PM
last week I hit a pothole on PCH that damaged my rims beyond repair. I now have 4 new rims coming and am still hobbling around in a car that shakes badly...I hope to god the wheels come before my trackday...that was $1000 I didnt need to spend (tires and wheels).

I havent had such an intense experience as you Alpha in a long time, mostly because I choose not to wrench on my cars anymore. I had enough of that in my teens and early twenties.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on March 14, 2006, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: pantablo on March 13, 2006, 11:44:41 PM
I havent had such an intense experience as you Alpha in a long time, mostly because I choose not to wrench on my cars anymore. I had enough of that in my teens and early twenties.

I can understand not wanting to work on them anymore. My dad gave up doing the same thing around his 30s too. He said the same thing, had enough of it in his teens and twenties. Unfortunately for me, being a college student causes severely limited funds with which to fix cars, so I have no other option than to fix it myself. And when you fix something yourself you tend to run into problems, some greater than others.

My father's reasoning about not wanting to work on cars anymore is his logic behind buying nothing but Toyotas, which is completely understandable. My Honda is right alongside them in longevity and reliability too, had I not gone and f%&ked it up. It's also the reason he doesn't want to get a project café racer bike with me to build and restore. Sell the dirtbikes we haven't ridden in a year and a half and get an awesome vintage 1970s café racer to customize? Sounds like a good idea to me... Apparently not to him though, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: pantablo on March 14, 2006, 12:25:37 AM
yeah, in high school I customized my 66 bug, california style. dropped a big motor in it, dropped it to the ground, custom bodywork and paint...then I got my first 240z which I autocrossed (and street raced illegally lots), then totalled it and started on another 240z. The whole time these cars got lots of go-fast parts and I did all the work myself, including the various repairs...decided I wanted to do other things on my weekends, like drink and get laid.

I still dont like wrenching now because I'd rather be riding or hanging with my family...although my wife thinks of me as a "tinkerer" because I still like to do things now and then (like the mods to the gs and the RR I've done).

It can be very rewarding to wrench on stuff, and it can be equally rewarding to pay others to get it rideable and spend that time doing other equally rewarding stuff. I see your point though...ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Gisser on March 14, 2006, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 13, 2006, 05:51:58 PM
Replacing a bushing in a trailing arm costs roughly $80.

If you're a student perhaps you can swing by the school shop and borrow their press?  Just a thought.

Bah, 4-wheel independent suspension.  I had a Mitsu with beam suspension that worked just fine!  :cheers:

Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Jake D on March 14, 2006, 09:31:41 AM
My buddy and I went bowling one time a year ago.  He drove a Lincoln LS that was leased and he was way over his miles on it so he also bought a '93 Taurus as a crutch for like $2000.  Anyway, we bowled like 3 games and drank like 5 pitchers of beer.  On the way home, I looked over at him and I don't even think his hands were on the steering wheel.  Seconds later we hit a midian strip at a 90 degree angle going about 40 miles an hour!  It was wild!  The Taurus launched into the air like the family truckster in Vacation.  We were like the Duke boys.  Anyway, when we landed, the Taurus (which we called Barney because it was purple) was FUBAR.  The front wheels were wobbling like a clown car and making a gawd awful racket.  We limped it home.  The next day we went to the wrecking yard and pulled two used wheels off another Taurus and tried to fix it but the problems were way beyond the wheels.  He ended up donating it to the Nation of Islam (no joke).  Anyway, we had a pretty good time with it.  I'll never forget jumping that car. 
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 14, 2006, 10:38:15 AM
Quote from: pantablo on March 13, 2006, 11:44:41 PMI had enough of that in my teens and early twenties.
Yeah...  I'm about the same...  But, my excuse is that the car I've owned for the last 6 years has been a '94 Exploder...  It's not like I can just open the hood and wrench on a few things.  It's all computer controled  :bs: under there. :icon_confused:

I still tell myself that if I had a garage, I'd get a bug 'cause I could work on it myself.  Somehow I don't think I would. :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on March 14, 2006, 11:57:06 AM
Alright, here are some pictures of what I'm working with:

The bent lower control arm:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/AlphaFire_X5/LJ/Picture003.jpg)

The broken bushing:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/AlphaFire_X5/LJ/Picture004.jpg)

And my rear wheel. Notice how the inside of it looks like a slick? It isn't supposed to...
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/AlphaFire_X5/LJ/Picture007.jpg)
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: scratch on March 14, 2006, 01:55:05 PM
I almost couldn't find my Clymer manual, yesterday, when I needed to look up the torque specs on the rear sprocket nuts.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: pandy on March 14, 2006, 02:02:46 PM
You don't have your Clymer memorized yet????  :o :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 14, 2006, 02:25:35 PM
You can hammer that out!  And once it rides straight, you won't need the worn part of the tire...

No problem man! 
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on March 14, 2006, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on March 14, 2006, 02:25:35 PM
You can hammer that out!  And once it rides straight, you won't need the worn part of the tire...
No problem man! 

I was thinking about hamering it out, but I think I'll trust Honda parts more than an Alpha's Ghetto-rigged Crap part. The problem I've run into at the moment is the brake line. I can't get one end out because it's somewhere inside the car (and it would require taking apart the floor panels and such to find it) and I can't get the brake shoe end out because I have no idea how yet. I need to get it out of some end so I can replace that damn trailing arm.

I got new wheels and tires too, so I'm good to go (almost)! A few hours of wrenching and then off to get an allignment and I'll be set! Sweet deal.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: RVertigo on March 14, 2006, 02:38:09 PM
I was joking about the hammering anyway...  It's a lot harder than you think to do that...  You need a really heavy mallet and a lot of skill to pull it off...  (and it might weaken the part).

I wish I had before/after pics of the bumper on my Exploder (after the wife got to it).  After I spent 4 hours hitting it, it went from "DAMN!" to "That sucks." :laugh:  And the wife said, "OMG WOW!!!  It looks sooooooooooo much better.  You can hardly tell!!!" :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: BubbaMeetze on July 31, 2006, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: starwalt on March 13, 2006, 08:12:38 PM
Here you go, Pandy's already absolved me of my sin so...

Last weekend or so with the weather getting better here in South Carolina, I decided to finish up the front brakes on the 90 rebuild. After cleaning, repainting, and rebuilding my calipers  and master cylinders front and rear, it was time to fill 'er up, bleed them and move on to the next task to get this baby rolling.

I was so proud of the Galfer SS lines and my ebay skills a getting them. They really look good with all the new paint. "Let's do the front end first", I said.

Before cinching down the banjo bolt to seal the copper washers, I decided that the angle of the banjo was a little off for the line drape. "I'll just bend it a little to make the lay better." <fade in ominous music>

Using my best, large adjustable joint pliers, I managed to change the angle to nearly 0 degrees. Seeing that was easy enough, I tempted fate for just a little more angle. <music reaching crescendo>

"CLICK" went the interface of the banjo neck to the line crimp.....  "Damn!" said Doug holding the line still in the pliers.

$60 worth of BRAND NEW Galfer line rendered useless. <music fades...> The sucker broke in two. Damn.

Well, at least the banjo bolt is new and the copper washers are uncrushed.  :laugh:


Did you get a caliper rebuild kit for the GS?  or does one just have to get the parts individual from suzuki.  I was looking online for a caliper rebuild kit for the GS500 but no luck so far.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Egaeus on July 31, 2006, 12:50:33 PM
I've got a good one since the thread was resurrected.  When I was 16 working on my first car, I checked my power steering fluid.  It was a bit low.  I didn't have any, and so I put brake fluid in it.  Hydraulic fluid is hydraulic fluid, right?  Wrong.  It ate through the seals and would dump a full reservoir of fluid in about 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: CirclesCenter on July 31, 2006, 12:55:09 PM
How about this.

I did my fork seals and ended up porking it up, the seals were on right (so I thought) but I had TOTALLY porked the fluid level.

So I took it to a shop and had them pull it apart, and instead of "wasting" 20 bucks I had them reuse the ones I had put on two weeks ago.

Now I have to take it and have it done all over again. Why? Because I was too cheap to spend twenty bucks.

f%$k me.
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: Alphamazing on July 31, 2006, 01:39:41 PM
Ah jeeze people. Way to revive my crappy thread!

Thankfully I've avoided such wrenching depressing as of late, although the front right end of my car makes a chattering noise over bumps. I never replaced any parts after my incident with the curb, so I'm thinking something is loose. I'm going to pull it apart and check the torque everywhere sometime soon. I never drive the car anymore though, so this might be a while!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: WildBlue on July 31, 2006, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on March 13, 2006, 08:00:43 PM
Don't even get me started on my Ford. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Well, if it's a Ford, what did you expect...?
Title: Re: Wrenching depression
Post by: natedawg120 on August 01, 2006, 06:17:56 AM
Quote from: RVertigo on March 14, 2006, 02:38:09 PM
I was joking about the hammering anyway...  It's a lot harder than you think to do that...  You need a really heavy mallet and a lot of skill to pull it off...  (and it might weaken the part).

I wish I had before/after pics of the bumper on my Exploder (after the wife got to it).  After I spent 4 hours hitting it, it went from "DAMN!" to "That sucks." :laugh:  And the wife said, "OMG WOW!!!  It looks sooooooooooo much better.  You can hardly tell!!!" :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh:Thats funny cause one of my friends, female, went from driving an 93 civic hatchback to a 89 Buick Century.  She backed out and another lady backed into the rear of her car and put this real big eye sore in it.  I pulled the carpet and busted out the heavy rubber mallet and beat the hell out of the rear quarter panel untill it looked pretty much like what you described.  She said the same dang thing too :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  At least it wasn't mine....