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Title: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: blue05twin on March 23, 2006, 04:44:12 PM
My wife passed her MSF course :thumb: and wants to get a cruiser around the 600 to max 750cc range.  But I wanted it to be fuel injected.  Is there such a bike? :dunno_white:  If you know of one please note make and model would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: JetSwing on March 23, 2006, 05:05:52 PM
almost all cruisers are carbed...600 to 750cc fuel injected cruiser? i doubt it
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: scratch on March 23, 2006, 05:29:57 PM
The MotoGuzzi Breva?  Roadstergal used to have one.  Here is also a selection of 650's: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=18533.msg167696#msg167696
Maybe the BMW F650?

(I searched Breva using Roadstergal's name)

Aha, I knew it: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=23116.msg234243#msg234243

This time I searched Breva and injected with username Roadstergal.
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: Caffeine on March 23, 2006, 05:50:45 PM
Is there a reason you prefer a bike with fuel injection over a carb?   Carbs have been around for over 100 years and they work pretty well.  And if you have a dead battery on a bike with fuel injection, you can't push start it because you won't have fuel, either.

Just a thought.   
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: daneilah on March 23, 2006, 06:02:12 PM
Not fuel injected, but in my humble opinion the best starter cruiser going.... the Kawasaki Vulcan 500 LTD

At 440lbs it's heavy enough for the highway but light enough to manhandle around.  It's chain drive, so at 498 CC's it outpulls most of the shaft-driven 650's.

Very reasonably-priced.

Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: blue05twin on March 24, 2006, 07:53:21 AM
Thanks for the reply's.  I didn't think one exhisted but I wanted to ask sence there is alot I don't know.  We'll go and check the Kawi and Yamaha dealer this weekend.  Oh one more question what would a 50 cubic inch engine be in cc's?
Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: JetSwing on March 24, 2006, 08:00:40 AM
Quote from: blue05twin on March 24, 2006, 07:53:21 AM
Thanks for the reply's.  I didn't think one exhisted but I wanted to ask sence there is alot I don't know.  We'll go and check the Kawi and Yamaha dealer this weekend.  Oh one more question what would a 50 cubic inch engine be in cc's?
Thanks
Dave

820cc
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: RVertigo on March 24, 2006, 01:11:03 PM
You should check out the Suzi Boulevards:

S40:  http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/S40K6/Default.aspx
~650cc, Carb, Belt Drive, 352 lbs, 27.6" Seat Height

S50: http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/S50K6/Default.aspx
~800cc, Carb, Shaft Drive, 443 lbs, 27.6" Seat Height

M50: http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/M50K6/Default.aspx
~800cc, Fuel Injection, Shaft Drive, 544 lbs, 27.6" Seat Height, Hard Tail

C50 (The one I want):  http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/C50K6/Default.aspx
~800cc, Fuel Injection, Shaft Drive, 542 lbs, 27.6" Seat Height
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: blue05twin on March 24, 2006, 03:28:24 PM
Thanks is shaft drive better than belt drive?  On the spec sheet it listed final gear as shaft drive  :dunno_white:.
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: RVertigo on March 24, 2006, 03:33:25 PM
You know...  I don't know...  I've heard people say one thing and some say another thing...

My understanding is that you lose some power because of the shaft drive...  But, a belt can slip...  Or something.

Shaft drive == No Chain Lubing or Adjustments :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: JetSwing on March 24, 2006, 03:37:24 PM
chain or belt or shaft drive? they all have good and bad...you can argue all night as to which is better.

plus, it's a cruiser...not that significant. in my opinion, maintenance free is always  :thumb:
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: RVertigo on March 24, 2006, 03:41:48 PM
Plus, it's way harder to cut your fingers off with a shaft.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: blue05twin on March 24, 2006, 03:59:25 PM
Cool I'll take the wife out and see if she like's one of the Boulevard's.  She did like the Honda Shadow VLX but it only has a 2.9 gal fuel tank and .9 of that is the reserve.
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: Dr. Love on March 24, 2006, 05:07:18 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on March 24, 2006, 01:11:03 PM
M50: http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/M50K6/Default.aspx
~800cc, Fuel Injection, Shaft Drive, 544 lbs, 27.6" Seat Height, Hard Tail

Wouldn't mind having one of them in black :), hard tail look, not actually hardtail though (Link-type, oil damped, 7-way adjustable spring preload)
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: RVertigo on March 24, 2006, 05:43:30 PM
The C50 and M50 have a nice 4.1 Gal tank...  But the S50 has 3.2 Gal and the S40 has 2.8. :nono:

The S40 is light as hell and a Blast to ride (my sister has one)... It's a Thumper (single cyl)... When I ride it, the only thing I think is WEEEEE!  It's not fast, but it REALLY doesn't need to be.  It has nice torque that kicks your backside so nicely. :laugh:

The C50 and M50 are nearly 200 lbs heavier than the S40... :icon_confused:  Not so light...
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: PAC on April 05, 2006, 09:32:47 PM
I just traded my '04 GS500F in on a leftover '05 M50, and I can tell you that the M50 is one heck of a ride.  The fuel injection is awesome - no choke, no stutters, no adjustments to be made.  No maintenance on the shaft drive, no maintenance on the battery, no fuel reserve switch (idiot light).  Hazard flashers a built in clock, and that oh-so-sexy speedo gauge sweep when you fire it up!  ;)

The HP is about the same as the GS500F, roughly 45-50, but the M50 feels faster off the line because there's so much more torque down low.  Of course it doesn't rev to 11K like the GS, but you don't need it.  It's heavier than the GS, and you do feel it a bit in low speed turns.  If you're wife is on the small side, the M50/C50 might be a little heavy for her to start out on.  Oh yeah, and the 50cu=805cc.
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: ashman on April 05, 2006, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Caffeine on March 23, 2006, 05:50:45 PM
Is there a reason you prefer a bike with fuel injection over a carb?   Carbs have been around for over 100 years and they work pretty well.  And if you have a dead battery on a bike with fuel injection, you can't push start it because you won't have fuel, either.

Just a thought.   

If thats true then why can I bump start my Accord when the battery is dead? Or do you mean dead as a door nail dead like no charge @ all.

-ash
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: blue05twin on April 06, 2006, 09:21:09 AM
Again thanks for the input.  My wife has been riding alot longer than I have she just got her license because Ga would not transfer her Korean motorcycle license.  We went to the Honda/Yamaha dealer and sat on quite a few bikes but but she didn't like most of them.
The M50 she liked alot but she thinks it'a too heavy for her.

In the end she decided to take my GS and told me to get a new bike. :o
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: ashman on April 06, 2006, 10:06:52 AM
Umm, does she have a sister? :laugh:

-ash
Title: Re: Cruisers with FI around 650cc's?
Post by: scratch on April 06, 2006, 01:32:37 PM
Just FYI, shaft drive fluid will need to be changed every two years.  It's not completely maintenance free, but it is sooooo much nicer and cleaner and easier and...