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Title: It might have been the music...
Post by: natedawg120 on March 24, 2006, 07:28:52 PM
But this guy was good :o :o :flipoff:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-383244740309869876&q=motorcycle
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: JetSwing on March 24, 2006, 08:52:56 PM
evidently, the guy suck...so yea it's the music...
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 24, 2006, 09:42:01 PM
Great song!!!

Too bad there was a crappy video for the background viewing...  WTF was that flame for?!?!?

You have to admit that the guy knew that he HAD to put up a wall of smoke to cover his bad stunting.
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: RVertigo on March 25, 2006, 03:24:46 AM
Yawn :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: natedawg120 on March 25, 2006, 04:12:47 PM
rofl, i was looking at the flame thrower :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: jake42 on March 25, 2006, 04:38:37 PM
I"m now dumber for having seen that.
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: ajgs500 on March 25, 2006, 04:41:11 PM
Did someone say Flamethrower??????
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
I donno, I was impressed by the amount of smoke he made.

how does one go about making that much smoke?
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: Alphamazing on March 26, 2006, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
I donno, I was impressed by the amount of smoke he made.

how does one go about making that much smoke?

Bleach.
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: pandy on March 26, 2006, 10:25:31 PM
The MUSIC definitely gets a  :thumb:
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 26, 2006, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 26, 2006, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
I donno, I was impressed by the amount of smoke he made.

how does one go about making that much smoke?

Bleach.

Can you explain?
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: Alphamazing on March 26, 2006, 11:37:40 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on March 26, 2006, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 26, 2006, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
I donno, I was impressed by the amount of smoke he made.

how does one go about making that much smoke?

Bleach.

Can you explain?

Not sure exactly, but know that the bleach produces a lot of white smoke.

From http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=burn%20out

QuoteAround 1970 someone discovered that if you heated up a tire, the rubber grew even softer, providing more grip, and thus a faster launch. Burn outs came about as an attempt of pro funny car and top fuel racers to heat their tires before making a run. A mix of water and chlorine bleach was poured on the race track in front of the tires. The driver would rev up the motor, and drop the clutch. The drive wheels would spin initially, and then catch launching the car down the track. A normal byproduct was a thick cloud of white smoke, that billowed out from behind the cars. Then they would back up, stage and race.

and...

QuoteWhy Bleach?

Stupot asked me why the bleach and water solution. I didn't know. In fact, I hadn't even thought of that seemingly obvious question. So I asked a chemist friend of mine, who calls himself Mott the Hoople online, and this is his reply.

Bleach (aka chlorox) chemical name is sodium hypochlroite (NaOCl). Comercial bleach solutions such as chlorox are typically a 6% w/v solution of NaOCl. In it's solid form it is a sodium salt of hypochlorous acid. Because Sodium Hypochlorite is non-stociometric (i.e. it is not chemically balanced) it is unstable. In the solid form Sodium Hypochlorite will decompose at low temps i.e. 40 deg C. It is also unstable in solution and if you let it sit long enough or heat the solution to near boiling it will form NaCl and H2O. This tendency to decompose is why bleach is used in burn outs.

The burn out creates intense heat, through friction, which decomposes the bleach and liberates Chlorine gas (Cl2). The Chlorine gas almost immediately reacts with water vapor in the atmosphere to form Hydrogen Chloride gas (HCl, Also known as hydrochloric acid when dissolved in water). The HCl gas is the white smoke that you see during the burnout. If you ever open a bottle of hydrochloric acid blow into it. The vapor from your breath will create a large amount of white smoke when it reacts with HCl gas.

The chemical reaction would be;

2NaOCl + heat + (H2O)2 ----> 2NaOH + 2HCl + O2

So the short answer is, bleach is used in burn out contests because it produces a bunch of white smoke.

Drag racers today no longer use bleach, they simply use water. I also asked my Uncle Dennis who used to be technical director of Goodyear in Europe. He, in turn, asked Les Garbowicz who designed the Top Fuel Dragster slicks for Goodyear. Originally, the bleach and water solution was used because of the chemical pyrotechnic in the equation listed above. The idea was to burn off the top skin of the tire, "exposing the gooey tread rubber underneath". But they discovered that water would do just fine. As pure water is both cheaper and easier to handle, the chlorox was dropped.
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: annguyen1981 on March 26, 2006, 11:45:26 PM
Isn't that like, CHEATING, in a burnout contest?
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 11:49:52 PM
I knew about the bleach thing, but do you think the guy in the video layed down that much bleach?

maybe he had something rigged up to rapidly drip bleach just infront of the rear tire as he moved.
Title: Re: It might have been the music...
Post by: Alphamazing on March 27, 2006, 12:01:33 AM
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 26, 2006, 11:49:52 PM
I knew about the bleach thing, but do you think the guy in the video layed down that much bleach?

maybe he had something rigged up to rapidly drip bleach just infront of the rear tire as he moved.

I think he probably had some sprayed on there to begin with and just allowed it to burn off throughout the burnout. Dunno, though. Bleach might last a good long while for all I know.