Well, I went there yesterday afternoon but because the salesman is a moron I ended up not leaving the dealership until about 8:00. My first ride on my new bike was 1 hour drive home in the dark. Ugh!
I was inside filling out paperwork and when I went outside to see what was taking so long, there was a puddle of gas under the bike. I want to say at least 3 or 4 gallons. He had the fuel reserve switch on the wrong setting and the gas kept pouring out. He had no clue what he was doing and instead of asking for help he just kept dumping more gas into it. Luckily their new finance manager is the old bike sales guy and he's NOT a moron. He took over and took it around for a few minutes to make sure the guy hadn't screwed anything else up.
Either way, I officially own a gs500 now, yay!
bitchin' :thumb:
Atta Boy.
Don't feel alone on the dealer thing. We've all been there.
ec4
Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 30, 2006, 06:26:50 AMI guess I don't get it. What setting on the reserve switch would cause gas to pour out, without another malfunction, and how?
Right on the money. Keywords: "without another malfunction"
Well, I know that there's 2 fuel valves - the standard pri/res switch and another valve to control flow out of the tank. On the right side of my bike, just in front of my brake lever, I've got a tube that is connected to nothing that the fuel was pouring out of. The explanation from the idiot salesman was that he had adjusted something with a screw driver to make sure that it wouldn't do that and had actually done the opposite. Whatever it was, once the tech looked at it he took about 10 seconds to fix the issue, and then drove it around for a few minutes to ensure no more leaks, then filled it all the way up. When he got back, the idiot salesman had changed his story to something to do with the pri/res valve. Nobody corrected him and I sure as hell am not as knowledgeable (or at least I hope to god I'm not) as those guys, so I swallowed the story.
Perhaps I'm wrong! If so, clue me in on what probably was happening?
What really matters, dammit, is that I have my bike. But if it's broke it'll need fixin'!
Edit: Not sure if there's an a hose to allow more air into the tank when it's set to reserve or anything. Could that've caused it?
Quote from: solaron on March 30, 2006, 07:30:40 AMOn the right side of my bike, just in front of my brake lever, I've got a tube that is connected to nothing that the fuel was pouring out of.
that's the airbox drain. Fuel flowing from there indicates that:
The petcock lets fuel through without the motor running because either
The petcock is on PRI(me)
The petcock is defective
AND
The needle valve in at least one of the carbs is not working. That needle valve stops fuel flow as soon as correct fuel level in the carb bowls is reached.
Come to think of that: The overflow hose from the tank also ends in front of the brake lever. (That drains spills when filling up and rainwater from around the tank cover to the ground.) It would need one heck of a screwed up hookup however tho have fuel draining from there permanently.
But having just heard about dealers connecting the tank overflow to the Carb reference pressure fitting I am willing ot believe anything.
Well, whatever was done no longer has fuel draining from there permanently. Is this something I need to bring back to the dealer and have fixed or is it a 'If it's working it's fine' type issue?
Set the petcock to "PRI" and check if you get fuel draining. If so, the float valve is shot.
Not that the fuel system has changed much, but what year GS is this anyway?
If it is a new bike, brand new, this is odd.
This is brand new. It had 2 miles on it when I got it last night.
I'll go change the petcock to pri and see what happens.
Okay, changed the setting to Pri and Res and let it sit there a few on each one. No gas came out of the hose or anything.....
Congrats on the new bike, and I hope you don't have any further problems! :thumb:
Quote from: solaron on March 30, 2006, 08:12:02 AM
This is brand new. It had 2 miles on it when I got it last night.
I'll go change the petcock to pri and see what happens.
Okay, changed the setting to Pri and Res and let it sit there a few on each one. No gas came out of the hose or anything.....
You should be good to go then. Enjoy the ride and be safe
Yay! Bike!!
congrats!
Congradulations!
Pablo - BTW, I can't see your avatar anymore.
The float could have been stuck and since been knocked back into position... :dunno_white:
Congrats on the bike... Now post pics.... NOW!
I4
Wrecent Wryder - yeah, the dealership I went through is dropping their Suzuki dealership in favor of expanding their new car sales sometime within the next year, so I'll need to find a new dealership anyways. The ineptitude just sealed the deal!
I'll be posting pics once I get home tonight! Rawr!
below 5000rpm for the 1st 600 miles...
is hard, but you can do it :thumb:
Er, my manual says under 5000 for the first 500 miles, then under 8000 RPM for another 500 miles. Is this one of those nuggets of conventional wisdom that should supersede the manual? Might they have changed this to 500 from 600 miles for the GS500F?
Quote from: subc on March 30, 2006, 12:31:28 PM
below 5000rpm for the 1st 600 miles...
Just do what the manual says in terms of the break-in limits.
And you're gonna find these idiots at any dealership you visit. I say do all the service at home. My 2005 is my first bike, and I knew nothing about wrenching. Thanks to this site and a lot of patience I have done everything on my own. The bike hasn't been back inside a dealership since I bought her and she rewards me everyday by performing like a dream. 3600 miles can't be wrong.
Enjoy.
Dave
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on March 30, 2006, 03:04:02 PMAnd you're gonna find these idiots at any dealership you visit.
That's putting it a bit strong. There are some competent mechanics out there. It's just trial and error finding them, and that process is expensive. So, yeah, if you have or can learn the skills, by all means do as much as you can yourself.
Where are the pics man. By the way Congrats on the bike.
Quote from: MarkusN on March 31, 2006, 02:25:11 AM
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on March 30, 2006, 03:04:02 PMAnd you're gonna find these idiots at any dealership you visit.
That's putting it a bit strong. There are some competent mechanics out there. It's just trial and error finding them, and that process is expensive. So, yeah, if you have or can learn the skills, by all means do as much as you can yourself.
Yeah, you're right. Let me rephrase: It's better to know YOU did it right than to wonder if THEY did.
There are good ones out there. But nobody knows your bike better than you. And the forum.
Dave :cheers:
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on March 31, 2006, 02:42:08 AM
It's better to know YOU did it right than to wonder if THEY did.
Heh! I like that!
That is very true...
Yeah.... don't know a whole lot about working on bikes yet, but I might as well learn. My buddy hit a deer on his last year at 60 miles an hour. Somehow he lived with no permanent injuries, and now he's got all the parts to get his bike back together. Next week I'm gonna head to his place and we'll get it all put back in one piece, so at least I'll learn some of the basics!
Pics are coming this weekend, I've been busy at work so by the time I get home it's dark. Talk about depressing - yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far, 70!
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