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Title: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: john on April 18, 2006, 06:48:09 AM
http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81865

Now that sucks.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: skoozi12 on April 18, 2006, 06:50:47 AM
oops.   :o

I really liked that bike too, pity.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: scratch on April 18, 2006, 06:54:18 AM
Paging Jbeaber to the white courtesy phone.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: Dwn4whadever on April 18, 2006, 06:56:37 AM
Quote from: scratch on April 18, 2006, 06:54:18 AM
Paging Jbeaber to the white courtesy phone.

:laugh: He is the guy that just picked up the burnt yellow one right. That sucks ass.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 07:23:28 AM
Well, if it is a problem, Triumph better take care of it.  Rumor has it that they havebeen good about warranty and factory recalls in the past.  I will be calling my dealership today!
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: 3imo on April 18, 2006, 07:25:59 AM
Quote from: scratch on April 18, 2006, 06:54:18 AM
Paging Jbeaber to the white courtesy phone.

funny!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: Jake D on April 18, 2006, 07:30:50 AM
Scratch, you are cracking my ass up today.  It is like you're channeling Andy Kauffman or something. . . Big ups.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 08:37:19 AM
If you want a real good laugh, the list price for the tire I need to get replaced is $363.  If there were no discounts it would be cheaper for me to replace both tires with less expensive recommended tires than to relace just the rear with the stock!  I have found one site that is sellingthe rear for $220.  Talk about getting out the vaseline!!!  Ow!!!!
And thanks John and Scratch for the notification.  I will keep this updated once I speak to the powers that be....
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: pantablo on April 18, 2006, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 07:23:28 AM
Well, if it is a problem, Triumph better take care of it. Rumor has it that they havebeen good about warranty and factory recalls in the past. I will be calling my dealership today!

not necessarily true. the daytona 600 had issues with premature wear to the swingarm/chain guard they never fess'd up to. those things wear out in less than 3k miles when they should last nearly the life of the bike.

Doesnt seem the UK bikes are getting this problem so it might be something to do with the US gas. I would think that based on all the positive reviews and how well the bike is being received that Triumph would bend over backwards to make their customers happy. Lots depends on the success of that bike for them. Whether or not the dealer network realizes that is another thing though...

jbeaber-what the hell are you talking about with those tire prices? just get some decent pilot powers and skip the oem (which is just a regular spec tire with different label as an OEM)...
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 08:47:39 AM
A good number of people on the Triumph 675 forum have had this problem and gooten their tanks replaced for free, and quickly.  That's why it wouldn't surprise me if there is a general recall. 
I'm going to see what tire option works out to be cheaper.  Replacing them and selling the stock tires may be the best deal.  May be able to come out damn near even on it.  Rumor has it stunters will even buy the rear tire with the plug....  We shall see.....  Pilot Powers are one of two other recommended tire options.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: scratch on April 18, 2006, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 08:37:19 AM
If you want a real good laugh, the list price for the tire I need to get replaced is $363.  If there were no discounts it would be cheaper for me to replace both tires with less expensive recommended tires than to relace just the rear with the stock!  I have found one site that is sellingthe rear for $220.  Talk about getting out the vaseline!!!  Ow!!!
Another reason why I prefer small bikes
Quote from: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 08:37:19 AM
And thanks John and Scratch for the notification.  I will keep this updated once I speak to the powers that be....
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 04:37:46 PM
So, I know the warning signs to look for to see if my tank is having issues.  My mechanic in San Jose took the tire off and was able to put a plug in that, as long as I don't go for any land-speed records, should last for the rest of its normal life.  We also ripped some reflectors off, put some swing arm protectors in (also functional as spools for a rear stand (yes, I miss my center stand)) and he adjusted the suspension as he had just spoken to another mechanic who determined the settings for my height and weight at a track day.  Annoying to have to do it, but I got another 100 miles on the bike...  :)  180 down....  320 to go to first service.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: scratch on April 18, 2006, 06:03:59 PM
 :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: Dwn4whadever on April 18, 2006, 06:18:51 PM
Well that is good to hear. im glad its going to get taken care of real quick. I would hate for you not to be on the sexy ass bike.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: pandy on April 19, 2006, 02:35:17 PM
 :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 12:49:17 PM
So, I am another victim of the defective gas tank.  The paint on the inside of my filler valve is starting to bubble.  Sounds like this is not going to be a major issue.  I am bringing the bike to the dealership so they can inspect and photograph the issue.  They contact Triumph, Triumph sends me a new gas tank.  The whole process will cost me $6 in tolls and put 80 more miles on for break in.  /and I haven't even managed to damage this tank!!!  yet.....
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: pandy on April 21, 2006, 12:51:05 PM
So....almost finished with break-in?  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 12:55:39 PM
I have about 230 miles on it.  It will be around 300 today if I take it to the dealership and then take it for a twisty ride afterwards.  She really likes the twisties....  Last night I went up to the Berkeley Hills and she got to visit with one of her sisters, a pretty graphite....  They got along well.  She likes to play with others.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/jbeaber/04-15-06_1830.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: poormanracing on April 21, 2006, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 12:55:39 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/jbeaber/04-15-06_1830.jpg)

:cry: thats so pretty....cant wait for 07  :cry:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: Alphamazing on April 21, 2006, 01:59:01 PM
Is it possible to keep your old gas tank and repair it somehow? Track tank!
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 02:09:45 PM
It may just need a turpentining....  I'm going to let the dealership deal with it.  Don't want to do anything that would void any warranty.  If they are going to replace the tank, I may see if I can snag it....  We shall see...
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: My Name Is Dave on April 21, 2006, 02:39:24 PM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 12:55:39 PM
Last night I went up to the Berkeley Hills and she got to visit with one of her sisters, a pretty graphite....  They got along well.  She likes to play with others.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/jbeaber/04-15-06_1830.jpg)

I hate you...
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 02:52:40 PM


I hate you...
Quote

And I was going to ask you to get together with my gf and I for drinks next time we come to Portland....  :)  Still prolly send you an invite.  We'll come on one of her dad's bikes.  It'll make you feel better.  His bikes are truly frighteneingly bad... 
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: My Name Is Dave on April 21, 2006, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 21, 2006, 02:52:40 PM


I hate you...
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And I was going to ask you to get together with my gf and I for drinks next time we come to Portland....  :)  Still prolly send you an invite.  We'll come on one of her dad's bikes.  It'll make you feel better.  His bikes are truly frighteneingly bad... 

I hesitantly accept.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: lumpoffire on April 21, 2006, 03:53:11 PM
I don't understand.  Why does a new tank need this coating, anyway?  Doesn't the presence of gasoline keep it from rusting/corroding?

Someone enlighten me.

d.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: D-Day on April 21, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: jbeaber on April 18, 2006, 04:37:46 PM
So, I know the warning signs to look for to see if my tank is having issues.  My mechanic in San Jose took the tire off and was able to put a plug in that, as long as I don't go for any land-speed records, should last for the rest of its normal life.  We also ripped some reflectors off, put some swing arm protectors in (also functional as spools for a rear stand (yes, I miss my center stand)) and he adjusted the suspension as he had just spoken to another mechanic who determined the settings for my height and weight at a track day.  Annoying to have to do it, but I got another 100 miles on the bike...  :)  180 down....  320 to go to first service.

You are kidding right?  You don't plug a motorcycle tire except to get you to somewhere that can at least pull the tire off of the rim and inspect it.  In a pinch, you could boot it to get you home, but really, are you going to trust your butt on a repaired tire?  Penny wise and pound foolish.  Get a flat, buy a  tire, it ain't no car.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: scratch on April 21, 2006, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: lumpoffire on April 21, 2006, 03:53:11 PM
I don't understand.  Why does a new tank need this coating, anyway?  Doesn't the presence of gasoline keep it from rusting/corroding?

Someone enlighten me.
This is more like added insurance, and the gas doesn't cover the top of the tank.  BMW has been painting/lining the inside of their tanks for at least a decade now, the only reported problem was with Shell gasoline; the additives ate away the liner.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: pandy on April 21, 2006, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: D-Day on April 21, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
You are kidding right?  You don't plug a motorcycle tire except to get you to somewhere that can at least pull the tire off of the rim and inspect it.  In a pinch, you could boot it to get you home, but really, are you going to trust your butt on a repaired tire?  Penny wise and pound foolish.  Get a flat, buy a  tire, it ain't no car.

My bf's put about 2k miles on his patched tire...or is it 3k now? Could be closer to 4k....

Plus, the mechanic that jbeaber took his bike to is A+++. If they told me that riding on ONE tire is safe, I'd believe 'em!  :thumb:

But seriously, they're good folks there, and they'd not steer anyone wrong. I think riding on a patched tire is another of those debates (such as which oil or what gas type) that everyone's just going to have their own opinion on.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: LimaXray on April 21, 2006, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: pandy on April 21, 2006, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: D-Day on April 21, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
You are kidding right?  You don't plug a motorcycle tire except to get you to somewhere that can at least pull the tire off of the rim and inspect it.  In a pinch, you could boot it to get you home, but really, are you going to trust your butt on a repaired tire?  Penny wise and pound foolish.  Get a flat, buy a  tire, it ain't no car.

My bf's put about 2k miles on his patched tire...or is it 3k now? Could be closer to 4k....

Plus, the mechanic that jbeaber took his bike to is A+++. If they told me that riding on ONE tire is safe, I'd believe 'em!  :thumb:

But seriously, they're good folks there, and they'd not steer anyone wrong. I think riding on a patched tire is another of those debates (such as which oil or what gas type) that everyone's just going to have their own opinion on.

I think it depends what kinda plug it is... there's the good'ol "jab the hunk of rubber into the hole" and then theres the take off the tire, patch it from the inside, remount and rebalance it method... I wouldn't trust the 'stab it in there' method, but I can't see anything wrong with the other kind.

I could be wrong, I dunno?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: nick_villan on April 21, 2006, 06:33:18 PM
yo that sucks cause i was conisdering to upgrade to one in the future
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: My Name Is Dave on April 21, 2006, 06:57:22 PM
Quote from: nick_villan on April 21, 2006, 06:33:18 PM
yo that sucks cause i was conisdering to upgrade to one in the future

No.
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: nick_villan on April 21, 2006, 08:06:24 PM
ok pdx i wont :cry:
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 22, 2006, 08:34:26 AM
Do ther upgrade....
I got the tank checked out last night.  It sounds like they did an overspray of PAINT.  They didn't cover up the filler cap or the inside fo the tank.  The additives in US fuel are eating the paint away, making it bubble up.  My dealership has taken photos now and will be sending them off to Triumph.  I will either receive a brand new tank with no issues or they will tell my dealer how to fix it.  I have heard they are stripping down the inside of the tank with turpentine or something similar.  It will be done on Triumph's bill.  The dealership would rather just do the new tank.  And the bike is fine to ride until then.  So, got 50 miles of break in for a quick stop at the dealership.
As for the tire...  I trust my mechanic implicitly.  Rob has never steered me wrong and performed some minor miracles on my old GS.  His company is still new.  He knows how important each customer is, and what a faulty repair would do.  If he says it is okay, it is fine.  Every time we have visited him he has done the work requested and also given the bike a full once-over to see if everything is okay.  He is thorough and attentive.  He'll be seeing the bike in a week again for it's first service. 
Title: Re: Looks like Truimph screwed up big time on the 675
Post by: jbeaber on April 22, 2006, 09:18:27 AM
Here's my $0.02 on upgrades.  Most of this is coming from life experience, not moto experience.  I have always been a bit cheap.  I've always wanted to try to do things on the inexpensive side, then deal with the improvements later.  This has often resulted in me spending more money than I would have had I done it right in the first place.  So, I wanted a new bike...  I decided on new so that I would know its entire history, wouldn't be buying someone else's problem, etc.  I would know every damn mile on the bike.  Then I started looking around at models that were going to do wat I wanted.  I commute to work by bike.  I love twisties, so I wanted low end torque.  I wanted full fairings for wind protection and comfort on long higway rides.  I read the magazines, read online reviews, chatted with my mechanic and a couple dealerships.  We identifed two bikes that fit what I wanted well, the 675 and a ducati supersport 800.  I could probably have done well with many other bikes. The 06 FZR 600 would do me well, hell, a Katana might not have been bad and a heck of a lot cheaper.  But them I would have started doing the mods to get its performance higher, suspension, steel braided lines, exhaust, etc...  You can spend so much on mods, more than the price difference than the more expensive bike you wanted.  Make sure you are buying the bike that is going to do what you want it to do at a level you are happy with.  I am going to grow into the 675 over the next few years. 
I opted to buy the most expensive bike on the list because it has everything I want as is.  Yeah, I'll do some mods eventually (fender eliminator, flush mount turn signals) but the bike is performing at a level that I want it to be at.  I don't need to do ANY performance mods for a long time.  Heck, I opened up the throttle last night on an on-ramp, while keeping the bike to 5K.  My gf just watched me go, her SV full open throttle with it's full RPM range could not have done anything to keep up without afterburners!  Yes, I am anticipating the arrival of a red 675 soon, she's not happy being the slow one right now (now she knows how I felt chasing her on my GS).  When you do upgrae, do it right.  Get what is going to make you happy even if it costs a little more.  Down the road you won't regret it.  Sorry about the rant...