Could someone please spell out the rpm ranges that the bike should stay within for different gears and different speeds. (ex. 10mph 1st gear 4000rpms). The rpms on the bike are very different from a car so I dont know If I am wasting gas at higher rpms or if I am riding the way I am supposed to. -Thanks as always guys
Redline...always. :icon_twisted:
Don't let her drop below 3500 to 4000 rpm for quiet / defensive riding some would call that already lugging. The fun starts beyond 8000 rpm.
1st gear - idle up to 10.5
2nd - 4000-10.5
3rd - 4 - 10.5
4th - 4k - 10.5
5th - 4k - redline
6th - 4.5 - redline
Oh you want speeds as well...
1st - idle= walking speed up to 20mph @ 4500rpm
2nd - 4000rpm is about 25mph
3rd - 4000 is about 35
4th -
5th - 4000 is about 40, 5000 is about 50
6th - 4.5 is 55
I think if you try to memorize that table, you're screwed.
Here's what I do...
Comfortable/quiet/leisure riding:
Less than 3500 RPM, downshift.
More than 5500 RPM, upshift.
Aggressive/sport/fun riding:
Less than 5500 RPM, downshift
More than 8500 RPM, upshift
I'm being chased by pirates, or showing off:
More than 10500RPM upshift
Oh, well I guess that's just a totally different table, but maybe it's shorter.
I really don't do anything differently based on what gear I'm in.
I never really know what gear I'm in, unless I try to upshift and there's no
more gears left. Which happens quite a bit when I'm in leisure mode.
do pirates chase you often?
Just wondering if anyone reads my ramblings.
arrrrrrg. me maties. that chuck bastard..been in our sites for ages.
we aim to make him walk da plank.
arrrrrg, my tooth fell out. damn scurvy. anyone gott an orange?
I pretty much have the same shifting philosophy as chuck
Hell, I get chased by pirates all the time. They're always riding a CB Arrrrrr 600 Arrrrrr Arrrrrr.
Quote from: Egaeus on April 18, 2006, 03:33:07 PM
Hell, I get chased by pirates all the time. They're always riding a CB Arrrrrr 600 Arrrrrr Arrrrrr.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I am so quoting you on that.
Quote from: Egaeus on April 18, 2006, 03:33:07 PM
Hell, I get chased by pirates all the time. They're always riding a CB Arrrrrr 600 Arrrrrr Arrrrrr.
Custom Title?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!
Here's some :bs: from my owners manual:
Gear Position | mph
1st -> 2nd | 12mph
2nd -> 3rd | 19mph
3rd -> 4th | 25mph
4th -> 5th | 31mph
5th -> 6th | 37mph
I remember doing these shifts when I first started riding... I could never do that anymore. I wait until almost redline if feeling a bit fast, but I shift around 5-6K rpm if I wanna "cruise"
Quote from: annguyen1981 on April 18, 2006, 06:33:39 PM
Here's some :bs: from my owners manual:
Holy crap, yea. I remember reading that before riding (yes, I actually did read the owner's manual before riding the bike), and I don't think I ever came close to that. I'm in 2nd when I should be in 6th?? I don't think so.
HA HA HA... Good one. Shift like that if you never want to go anywhere.
6th at 37... What a joke... You can barely ride at 50 in 6th.
Stop picking on the n00bs, ya' big meanies! :nono:
:laugh:
Quote from: RVertigo on April 20, 2006, 02:08:58 PM6th at 37... What a joke... You can barely ride at 50 in 6th.
I dunno, 6th @ 50mph aint too bad.. Often dip down to 50 on the interestate when dodging traffic and what not and I still have plenty of juice to accelerate back up to speed or pass cars. Granted, I won't be pulling any wheelies at 50mph in 6th gear, but plenty of power there to do what I want in most common driving situations.
If you're breaking in your engine you kinda have to do 50 in 6th gear :cry:
Quote from: LimaXray on April 20, 2006, 02:54:48 PM
If you're breaking in your engine you kinda have to do 50 in 6th gear :cry:
If you're breaking in per manufacturer's specs, that is. Hell, I say screw the break in period. Ride it like you would normally.
I actually read that this is a good idea- actually the proponent suggested riding it harder than you normally would for the break-in period. The author of the paper was talking specifically about automobiles, but his experience had showed him that working the engine hard during break in caused the seals to seal tighter, leading to better compression down the road, etc. It's been a couple years since I read the article, I think I saw it linked while browsing an Integra or Firebird forum, but perhaps it can be googled.
Errr, so a simple google search turned this up, which looked familar:
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
MotoMan Says this (http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm) about motorcycles
Aside from the ongoing break-in debates, everyone has their own riding style and habbits. My style and habbit is more relaxed usually unless I'm feeling saucy. I don't ride down the road revving my rpm's high, I just ride it like a motorcycle and enjoy it. My shift points are usually between 4-5k rpm for cruising. I've spent the past 2,000 miles (my only miles on a motorcycle) learning the best way to shift and what's smoothest and for me, depending on the rate of acceleration is 4-5k rpm. No jerkback from the transmission and engine having to match back at the same speed or anything, it feels as smooth as an automatic most of the time.
Speaking of shifting, I've practiced and toyed with the idea of clutchless shifting and I can say that I've got it down quite well. It isn't hard by any means but alot of the time I can shfit without the clutch -almost- as smoothly as I can shift -with- the clutch. Not that I make a habbit of it, just something I do randomly for the hell of it. But, I'm wondering if it's hard on anything below me when I do that? I never even considered clutchless shifting until I read a thread about it awhile back and someone suggested that it was a good idea to familiarize yourself with the technique -just in case.-
BTW, if I were to think about break-in methods logically, I'd have to lean towards Motoman's theory. He seems to have put it to the test and has done a great job convincing me, the only problem is... I'm well past the optimal break-in period to use his method, I broke the bike in using the manual's method. :( The bike now has about 2,000 miles on it. Oh well, I'm sure it won't drastically reduce engine life and performance over the long run too bad. Maybe a little bit and I DID get on 'er pretty heavily a couple times (9,000rpm or so) before the first oil change at 500 (463). And after that I got on it quite a bit (11k rpms a couple times) so maybe I partially broke it in with his methods? :dunno_white:
Quote from: phire on April 21, 2006, 09:01:48 AMBut, I'm wondering if it's hard on anything below me when I do that?
If there are no strange noises and the shifting goes smoothly it's not hard on the gears and dogs. The gearbox will tell you if it's not happy.
In first gear i usually shift around 6 000rpm
After that, i ride 5 000, 6 500 and shift around 7 000 (almost done break in)
before 6 500ish, the bike doesn't seem to really flow through the gears as nice, so i just shift in lower end of the higher rpm range almost all of the time regardless. It is a bit louder, but oh well, under 5 000 the thing sounds like a lawnmower and isn't very responsive at speed.
Quote from: mike_mike on April 21, 2006, 10:13:11 AMunder 5 000 the thing sounds like a lawnmower and isn't very responsive at speed.
I have to agree that it does sound like a lawnmower at times.. Sometimes I have the urge to drive over peoples lawns...
Quote from: phire on April 21, 2006, 10:29:52 PMSometimes I have the urge to drive over peoples lawns...
They get mad when you do that. :icon_confused:
A few years ago, I had a guy chase me when I rampaged his lawn in my Ford.
It was an accident!!! Sorta!