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Title: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: suzuki gs500f on April 20, 2006, 09:20:00 AM
What is the biggest rear tire you can put on the 05 gs500f? I got the 140/70 but want tsomethong wider. any help is appprecaited...
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: pantablo on April 20, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
why do you want wider? what will you gain? if its for the look of a wide tire...forget it. even the 150/60 that is about the biggest that you can get on the stock rim will look tiny when you pull up alongside a sportbike. and the 150/60 isnt great to ride on when it wears because its pinched on the rim. it squares off in a wierd way making the bike fall too quickly when leaned over far.

the bike will ride better with the stock 130 or 140 series tire.

to get a 150 or 160 you'd have to swap the rear wheel for something else. search on here for 'rear wheel' or katana rear wheel' as the kat is almost a direct swap.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: allmtrslut on April 20, 2006, 09:26:45 AM
in the race corner it says the 150 will fit, and you will be able to lean bike over alot. But the only thing is that you cant ride to the outside of the tire, so at max lean it wont show that your on the outside of your tire cause its so big. other then that they say it will fit, and they also said that a 140 sucks cause the tire is tall and makes the handeling alittle wack.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: surlybruce on April 20, 2006, 10:29:58 AM
People need BIG rear tyres because they have SMALL dicks !
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 20, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
What a strange thing to say from someone who's bike is covered in "carbon fiber" and appearance modifications.

-Turd.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: mrdomino on April 20, 2006, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on April 20, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
What a strange thing to say from someone who's bike is covered in "carbon fiber" and appearance modifications.

-Turd.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: leo on April 20, 2006, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on April 20, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
What a strange thing to say from someone who's bike is covered in "carbon fiber" and appearance modifications.

-Turd.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: LimaXray on April 20, 2006, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: leo on April 20, 2006, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on April 20, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
What a strange thing to say from someone who's bike is covered in "carbon fiber" and appearance modifications.

-Turd.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

lets be easy on the guy, hes from canada
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: Blingmasta on April 20, 2006, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on April 20, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
What a strange thing to say from someone who's bike is covered in "carbon fiber" and appearance modifications.

-Turd.

WELL CRAFTED MY FRIEND
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: runsilent on April 20, 2006, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: suzuki gs500f on April 20, 2006, 09:20:00 AM
What is the biggest rear tire you can put on the 05 gs500f? I got the 140/70 but want tsomethong wider. any help is appprecaited...

A 150/70 is the widest tire that will properly fit on the 3.5" GS500 rear wheel.  It's an approved fitment for bias ply tires and also an approved fitment by some of the tire mfg but not others for radial tires. Some will fit without alterations and some require grinding a bit off the brake torque rod for clearance.

I've had 2 sets of Z4/Z2 and 1 set of AV45/46 sport touring radials on GS's and all were much better tires all around than the OE bias ply tires.  I now have a set of Lasertecs with a 150/70 rear and it handles as good or better all around than anything else I've used.  Just won't last as long as the sport touring radials.

The 150/70 is only about a half inch wider than a 130/70 mounted on our 3.5" rim and doesn't compare to a 180 or 190 tire on a sportbike in apearance, but compared to a GS with a OE rear tire, the 150/70 Lasertec makes the 130/70 look like a bicycle tire.  The 150/70 fills the space and looks so much better in my opinion

The 150/60 rear radial is not approved by any tire mfg in this country for fitment on the 3.5" rim.  Many are happily running them on the GS500s and the EX500s(Ninjas).
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: pantablo on April 20, 2006, 04:24:23 PM
good to see you back 'runsilent'. dont be a stranger...


Quote from: allmtrslut on April 20, 2006, 09:26:45 AM
in the race corner it says the 150 will fit, and you will be able to lean bike over alot. But the only thing is that you cant ride to the outside of the tire, so at max lean it wont show that your on the outside of your tire cause its so big. other then that they say it will fit, and they also said that a 140 sucks cause the tire is tall and makes the handeling alittle wack.

Yes, I ran a 150/60 on my gs once and it was a huge improvement until it started to wear. in the beginning I could feel the bike fall faster into the corner once the lean reached a certain level. it was manageable. as the tire wore down, and because the 1/2" of tire at the edge never contacted the ground, the edge where the worn tread and the untouched tread met created an actual edge. once the bike leaned over far enough to reach that edge the "falliin in" was abrupt and scared the piss out of me on more than one occasion. the 140/80 radial is taller so the bike falls more but also more predictably. a 140/70 is also available but only in bias ply. I went with a 150/60 to get a radial on there...went back to 140/80 after that and bike actually handled better. the racers can deal with the characteristics of the 150/60 (although they switch up to wider wheels when they can) because they're experienced riders. new or newer riders should stick to 140's.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: sprint_9 on April 21, 2006, 08:53:44 AM
I had a 150/70 on mine but that was with a bandit 400 wheel.  If your going to do it do it right and get the properly sized wheel.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: runsilent on April 21, 2006, 09:10:09 AM
Quote from: sprint_9 on April 21, 2006, 08:53:44 AM
I had a 150/70 on mine but that was with a bandit 400 wheel.  If your going to do it do it right and get the properly sized wheel.

If Metzeler, Pirelli, and  Bridgestone say the 150/70/17 tire size is an approved fitment on our 3.5" rims for their Z6, Lasertec, Strada, Demons, BT020, and BT45 tires; who am I to argue?  If it works for me, it works.   :)
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: surlybruce on April 20, 2006, 10:29:58 AM
People need BIG rear tyres because they have SMALL dicks !

Damnit!!!!  :o  I knew I shoulda got the big tires. :oops:

is it too late? and how does that work, should I rub it on it? I could try to run it over but it is kinda small.
I wish I'd known this in high school.  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: TragicImage on April 21, 2006, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: surlybruce on April 20, 2006, 10:29:58 AM
People need BIG rear tyres because they have SMALL dicks !

Damnit!!!!  :o  I knew I shoulda got the big tires. :oops:

is it too late? and how does that work, should I rub it on it? I could try to run it over but it is kinda small.
I wish I'd known this in high school.  :icon_confused:


Centerstand + First Gear / Insert in chain line = Solution
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:37:57 AM
aw   :o   Tragic, thats not funny.  :mad:

Now how do I get the chain wax off?  ah man  :mad:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:39:07 AM
** I guess it does look bigger though.. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: TragicImage on April 21, 2006, 09:44:05 AM
thats just the swelling.


that'll go away.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:51:10 AM
SRSLY though...the best way to make it bigger is to find a girl with smaller hands.  :thumb:



**or Guy, for you Hetero challenged fellas  :cheers:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: badguy on April 21, 2006, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:51:10 AM
SRSLY though...the best way to make it bigger is to find a girl with smaller hands.  :thumb:

HAHAHA  Best. Idea. Ever.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: TragicImage on April 21, 2006, 09:53:43 AM
we should nip this one right now....



Cause this can get out of hand quickly.

Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: sprint_9 on April 21, 2006, 09:59:05 AM
Yea they may say it fits but it wont fit as good as a 130 and it will handle like poop and look retarded because it will be pinched.  If it fits right and you do end up buying one, then go out after it is broke in and see if you can get to the edge of the tire, if you can then you are a somewhat skilled rider and the tire is on a properly sized rim, if you cant then it is highly likely that the tire is pinched and the profile is wrong.  Pablo whom was a very experienced rider and has more experience then me couldnt get to his edge with a 150 on a stock rim, I could on the other hand very easily because it was on the correct rim and the profile was meant how it was supposed to be.  If the profile isnt right then it wont wear right and you will run into the same problems he had.

Here is a closup of mine

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/sprint_9/th_G512.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/sprint_9/G512.jpg)
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: cell_491 on April 21, 2006, 10:35:02 AM
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Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 21, 2006, 10:45:53 AM
Whats that lassie?  Aliens took over cell 491's computer?

-Turd.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: Dwn4whadever on April 21, 2006, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on April 21, 2006, 10:45:53 AM
Whats that lassie?  Aliens took over cell 491's computer?

-Turd.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: RVertigo on April 21, 2006, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: 3imo on April 21, 2006, 09:51:10 AMfind a girl with smaller hands.  :thumb:
:thumb: :thumb:  My wife is 5'2".   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: runsilent on April 21, 2006, 03:28:01 PM
<<< it squares off in a wierd way making the bike fall too quickly when leaned over far............and............as the tire wore down, and because the 1/2" of tire at the edge never contacted the ground, the edge where the worn tread and the untouched tread met created an actual edge. once the bike leaned over far enough to reach that edge the "falliin in" was abrupt and scared the piss out of me on more than one occasion>>>

Pablo, there is no need to go to the effort of wearing the 150/60 tire down to get that fun edge, the AM52 comes from the factory that way.  :thumb:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/AM52-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/AM52-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: runsilent on April 21, 2006, 04:05:15 PM
<<< Yea they may say it fits(150 on stock rim) but it wont fit as good as a 130 and it will handle like poop and look retarded because it will be pinched >>>

sprint, as I said above, my 150/70 Lasertec looks great and handles as well as any tire I've tried, bias or radial.  In fact it handles so well I wouldn't hesitate to run it thru a poop covered corner at speed.   :laugh:

I put a slightly worn bias belted GT501 front on once with a well worn Z2 radial rear and it had that startling feeling that Pablo described of falling right out from under me on the first 2 or 3 fast tight turns.  I somehow corrected for this mismatch and it never did it again for the 3k more miles I ran them together.  True story. 

Now it could be I was so worried about the clip type link on my chain that I just never noticed it when it did it again.

Like I said, if it works for me, it works period.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: runsilent on April 21, 2006, 04:20:47 PM
Just looking thru the catalog from my handy local tire supplier and they have a left over 150/60 AV50 for $69 and a left over Pilot Sport same size for $79.   Since my rear Lasertec will wear out first, I'm thinking of getting one of these supersport radials to run with what's left of the Lasertec front.  Just gotta try this 150/60 rear on a 3.5" rim for myself.  Experience is the best teacher for these kinds of things.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: bbanjo on April 21, 2006, 05:49:21 PM
Just read this http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=25426.0 from Mr. T. Ferguson and it's got me looking at the $200 wheels for sale on ebay (sorry if the link was posted earlier in the thread). Other than making room for the tire, it's got to be the quickest way to get to a 160 tire. Nice write-up.

banjo

:dunno_white: This smiley has small hands, I'm strangely aroused.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: pantablo on April 20, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
why do you want wider? what will you gain? if its for the look of a wide tire...forget it. even the 150/60 that is about the biggest that you can get on the stock rim will look tiny when you pull up alongside a sportbike. and the 150/60 isnt great to ride on when it wears because its pinched on the rim. it squares off in a wierd way making the bike fall too quickly when leaned over far.

the bike will ride better with the stock 130 or 140 series tire.

to get a 150 or 160 you'd have to swap the rear wheel for something else. search on here for 'rear wheel' or katana rear wheel' as the kat is almost a direct swap.

Was thinking of this... Thanks for answering it... We'll stay with the stocky's  :cheers:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: gsJack on March 20, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
You've just revived a 7 year old thread peterscotts, much has happened in the tire world since then.   :icon_lol:   Run whatever size suits you, I do.  I have run 110/70, 110/80, 120/70 fronts and 130/70, 130/80. 130/90. 140/70, 140/80, 150/60, 150/70 rears on the stock 3.0 and 3.5" wheels on my 97 and 02 GS500s for various reasons.  Put a 150/60 on last year just because it was the only size I hadn't run yet and I wanted to try it.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: iclrag on March 20, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
on a side note isnt the 140/70 really nice to corner on?
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: wayne242 on March 20, 2013, 03:09:59 PM
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Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: crzydood17 on March 21, 2013, 09:07:30 AM
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I kinda wish threads that are over a year old auto lock or something.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: gsJack on March 21, 2013, 09:41:41 AM
Quote from: iclrag on March 20, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
on a side note isnt the 140/70 really nice to corner on?

A 140/70 is really nice to corner on if the 140/70 is on a GS500.  :thumb:  Hardly any bike maker is putting less than a 140/70 rear on sporty type bikes now even on the 250s, wide rear tires sell bikes.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/2013SmallBikeDims_zpsbede4d5c.jpg)
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: GSBRY on March 21, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
do the katana wheel swap if you want to go wider safely.  There are plenty of katana parts out there cheap.
Title: Re: Biggest rear tire?>
Post by: gsJack on March 22, 2013, 07:38:08 AM
Speaking of Katanas and tires, the early 89-97 Kats had the same size wheels as the GS and the 600 came with a 140/80 rear tire and the 750 came with a 150/70 rear on it's 3.5" wide GS size rear wheel.  The 98 and later Kats had the wider 4.5" wheels with a 150/70.

Most if not all tire makers approve the fitment of 150/70 bias tires on 3.5" wheels but only some approve of the fitment of their 150/70 radials on the same wheels.  None of the tire makers approve fitment of the 150/60 tires on 3.5" wheels in this country although many GS500 and Ninja 500 riders use this fitment.

Keep in mind that anyone can post info or alter info on the Wiki when you use the info found there, I tend to go along with the tire makers on these fitment issues.  The Wiki is helpful input but it is not the gospel, particularly on tire issues.

I felt completely safe on all the 150/70 rear tires I ran on my GSs on the stock wheel and remember the 110/80 bias Lasertec front tire with a 150/70 radial RoadAttack rear tire combo as the best all around handling tires I've had on my GSs.