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Title: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 02:13:31 PM
so im stupid. i was workin on my car yesterday and i moved the powersteering resivoir to get to soemthing else.  well i set it on a belt and forgot about it. drove around and burned a hole through it.  is there anything i can use to patch the hole or do i need to buy a new one?

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Title: Re: oops
Post by: LimaXray on April 25, 2006, 02:32:28 PM
power steering fluid? idk,  I've used caulk on a coolant overflow tank before and that worked.  dunno if thatd hold up to power steering fluid tho. 

another thing you could try is plastic epoxy.  It bonds to plastic pretty well, and I've used to to recreate small broken parts before.   Try getting some really fine fishing line, and crazy glue pieces of it perpendicular across the cut, then fill in the cut with some epoxy.  It's worh a shot.  otherwise try calling some junk yards
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 02:56:38 PM
im gonna look to see if i have any epoxy.. any one else?
Title: Re: oops
Post by: roguegeek on April 25, 2006, 03:08:54 PM
When in doubt, check your blinker light fluid. :thumb:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Egaeus on April 25, 2006, 03:26:10 PM
I think you're screwed.  That looks like polyethylene.  It can't be epoxied reliably. 
Title: Re: oops
Post by: 94suzuki500 on April 25, 2006, 03:48:36 PM
wuss, you dont need power steering. 
Title: Re: oops
Post by: TragicImage on April 25, 2006, 03:50:32 PM
www.partsamerica.com



or a junk yard.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Phaedrus on April 25, 2006, 04:00:49 PM
<knock knock>

"who's there?"

"JB"

"JB Who?"

"JB Weld! Lemme in."

"Ok"

:icon_razz:

I wonder if JB Weld would work in this situation. I know epoxy was already mentioned, but I think you should give JB Weld a chance. If it doesn't work, you are out what, $3?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 04:02:37 PM
i thought about jbweld. i ahve some too.  but i uh... went ahead and put on some epoxy  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Phaedrus on April 25, 2006, 04:09:32 PM
Did it work?
Title: Re: oops
Post by: LimaXray on April 25, 2006, 04:10:44 PM
drum roll....
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 04:16:24 PM
idk we'll see!
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Egaeus on April 25, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
JB Weld is just an epoxy, and it doesn't bond polyethylene either.  I've tried multiple times.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Phaedrus on April 25, 2006, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on April 25, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
JB Weld is just an epoxy, and it doesn't bond polyethylene either.  I've tried multiple times.

You are right.  :thumb:

I checked out  JBWeld.net  (http://jbweld.net/faq.php)

Q: Is there anything that J-B Weld WON'T bond to?
A: J-B Weld will not adhere to, or bond well to:

Any flexible rubber surface
Leather
Vinyl
Canvass
Polypropylene plastic
Polyethylene plastic


So I wondered, what DOES bond to polyethylene?

..and found this via Google:

http://www.glubie.com/01_Pages/aerosol-spray-adhesives.htm

:dunno_white:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Egaeus on April 25, 2006, 06:53:31 PM
3M also makes a 2-part acrylic that bonds to polyolefins.  It's Scotch-Weld Structural Plastic Adhesive part no. DP-8005.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: starwalt on April 25, 2006, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on April 25, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
JB Weld is just an epoxy, and it doesn't bond polyethylene either.  I've tried multiple times.

Here's another freaky feature of JB Weld....while still liquid, it will jump through the air toward the isocenter of an MRI magnet if you try to apply it anywhere near the open bore the thing.  Really.

I was trying to repair a leaking water manifold on an MRI system and all I had was JB Weld. It was weird and funny at the same time. We had a helluva time trying to catch the stuff mid air until we came to our senses and just moved away from the magnet.
:o
It looked like that black-oil alien effect on the X-Files. Creepy and cool at the same time.

BTW, I'd just get another tank.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 07:39:23 PM
getting a new reservoir is gonna be a lil harder than i thought.  i called a few places and none of them 'sell' that part.  well where the hell do u get it if not an auto parts store?
Title: Re: oops
Post by: TragicImage on April 25, 2006, 07:41:09 PM
junk yard.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 07:45:27 PM
nearly impossible to find my year civic at a junkyard.  the scavengers bring old beat up vans everyday to the yard and a whole team of them strip any imports esp civics, within minutes... well so it seems  :laugh:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: Phaedrus on April 25, 2006, 07:50:19 PM
Try the dealer or a body shop. They will get it, but you will pay out the ass.

Try online..Ebay, Car-Part.com, or Honda Civic boards.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: TragicImage on April 25, 2006, 07:51:12 PM
what year civic? what model?  and which part exactly?



Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 08:08:38 PM
95 civic ex coupe.  the powersteering fluid reservoir. 

so i just checked on the expoy job.  it seems to hold fairly well!  any words of caution before i slap that baby back on tomorrow?  will the fluid do anything to the epoxy?
Title: Re: oops
Post by: average on April 25, 2006, 11:29:19 PM
i was going to suggest plasticweld.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: LimaXray on April 26, 2006, 04:28:37 AM
idk what the power steering fluid will do to the epoxy, but if it doesn't work, it will just leak, no big deal.  just don't park on your property :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: oops
Post by: MarkusN on April 26, 2006, 05:24:27 AM
If it's polyethylene I'd try to weld it. Polyolefins weld pretty decently. Use a strip of similar material and a hot air gun (or even an open flame). I'd trust that more than anything that is just sticky.

To find out if its the same material cut off a sliver, ignite it, put it out and take a whiff of the fumes. Polyethylene smells like paraffin candles.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: natedawg120 on April 26, 2006, 06:05:46 AM
yeah i agree with trying to 'weld' a plastic fragment in place of the hole.  Since that reservoir doesn't hold pressure that probably would get the job done.  Either that or just cough up some dough and get a new one, but whats the fun is that :laugh: :laugh:.
Title: Re: oops
Post by: weaselnoze on April 27, 2006, 08:10:21 AM
well it held. the epoxy did it.  its been a day now and no leaks!