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Title: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: pantablo on May 18, 2006, 01:25:59 PM
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?lnk=rss&article=25781
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: TragicImage on May 18, 2006, 01:32:06 PM
hahaha, I just read this article from the "other" board.
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: twinlove04 on May 18, 2006, 01:48:02 PM
I prefered the Motorcyclist article (in two installments) "Blowing the Lid Off" from June and November 2005.  In it they state that a DOT-only certified helmet had the fewest Gs transferred to the head.  From that big article, I deduced that my HJC CL-12 helmet was actually better than  more expensive Euro models that passed more tests/standards. 

The Roadracingworld article said that they banned helmets due to the number of acidents involving HJC helmets.  Well, if more riders wear HJC helmets, more HJC helmets will be involved in crashes.  There was NO science to back up the RRW article.  :nono:
Just because a helmet costs more does not mean it is more protective.  I'd buy another HJC tomorrow.

-Patrick
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: Alphamazing on May 18, 2006, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: twinlove04 on May 18, 2006, 01:48:02 PM
I prefered the Motorcyclist article (in two installments) "Blowing the Lid Off" from June and November 2005.  In it they state that a DOT-only certified helmet had the fewest Gs transferred to the head.  From that big article, I deduced that my HJC CL-12 helmet was actually better than  more expensive Euro models that passed more tests/standards. 

The Roadracingworld article said that they banned helmets due to the number of acidents involving HJC helmets.  Well, if more riders wear HJC helmets, more HJC helmets will be involved in crashes.  There was NO science to back up the RRW article.  :nono:
Just because a helmet costs more does not mean it is more protective.  I'd buy another HJC tomorrow.

-Patrick

Yeah, and that "study" had some questionable testing methods too. They said one of their best was some off-the-shelf Pep-Boys model. What a load of crap...

Interesting article about the HJC being banned though.
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: aplitz on May 18, 2006, 04:10:57 PM
Quote from: twinlove04 on May 18, 2006, 01:48:02 PM
The Roadracingworld article said that they banned helmets due to the number of acidents involving HJC helmets.  Well, if more riders wear HJC helmets, more HJC helmets will be involved in crashes.  There was NO science to back up the RRW article.  -Patrick

They didn't say the ban was due to the number of accident involving HJC lids, rather that the last five accidents with head injuries involved riders wearing HJC.  That, while primarily antecdotal, is actually somewhat scientific.  Other accidents have ocurred, and they did not result in head injuries, so the integrity of the HJC helmets definately comes into question.
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: coll0412 on May 18, 2006, 04:51:20 PM
I am not one to argue over the internet :laugh:

however,"more riders getting serious head injuries from HJC helmets in races" is a broad statment.

When I read it I asked, well what is the precentage of riders wearing HJC helmets?

How many other crashes have there been that involved non-HJC helmets?

Where they similiar collisions?

Dumb article, and however these LRRS people are a bunch of goons, I mean banning a helmet and offering the above statement as there excuse, provide some data show your statement
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: bbanjo on May 18, 2006, 07:17:52 PM
I'm thinking that HJC didn't pony up enough "sponsorship" money to them. Those big banners pay their bills.
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: average on May 18, 2006, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: bbanjo on May 18, 2006, 07:17:52 PM
I'm thinking that HJC didn't pony up enough "sponsorship" money to them. Those big banners pay their bills.
I agree. What a way to stonewall a company that decided not to go into debt for a portion of wall or billboard at the track :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: TragicImage on May 18, 2006, 08:30:42 PM
But they didn't ban ALL HJC helmets..

Just CL and CS series helmets...

It leaves the AC series and several others in
Title: Re: HJC helmets banned for racing use at LRRS
Post by: The Buddha on May 18, 2006, 09:01:32 PM
The motorcyclist article ignored 1 major fact ... the pep boys Z1 helmet and the fulmer as well are massive in size ... in fact my shoei helmet could fit inside a fulmer and its an XL ... so more styrofoam and hence more cushioning ...
While I am not a fan of shoei ... that is no reason to say fulmer or Z1-R is good by design ... its like pamela anderson bumping into a brick wall and saying my lungs are not hurt vs Gwyneth Paltrow doing the same and puncturing a lung ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Oh crap I wrote supporting shoei ... what has the world come to ...