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Title: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on May 26, 2006, 03:25:44 PM
hey guys im having a serouis problem finding tires i need a front and back tire can you guys point me in the right direction of where i might find a set of tires
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: shik on May 26, 2006, 03:32:50 PM
Hmm, another thing (which i would like to know now that the starter of this thread is at the subject).
Which tires are good? Because previous owner of my bike bought some "Kings tire" :nono: crap.
And after just 10 drops of rain all traction is gone. They really suck.  :mad:  :2guns:
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: ajgs500 on May 26, 2006, 03:34:04 PM
Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse....  mawonline.com i think.  And get Pirelli Sport Demons they kick ass.


Or your local dealer or bike shop should be able to order any tire you want.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: aworkmon on May 26, 2006, 03:36:23 PM
If my insurance company won't give me enough for my bike I will be parting it out.  I have 2 Pirelli Sport Demons with less than 500 miles on them that I will sell.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on May 26, 2006, 03:42:39 PM
not looking to spend a but load of money on tires
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: Alphamazing on May 26, 2006, 03:43:30 PM
Also try Motorcycle-superstore.com for Sport Demons. If they are on sale, you can get a set for around $160 shipped or so for a full set.

Pirelli Sport Demons: Best tires in stock sizes availible.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on May 26, 2006, 03:45:10 PM
i found a set of maxxis for 110
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: werase643 on May 26, 2006, 03:48:08 PM
remember.... cheap ass tires are cheap for a reason
good tires...same goes

its a bike, ya only got 2 tires, better hope you never have to ride through a blow out
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on May 26, 2006, 03:51:21 PM
well i dont have a lot of money to spend on tires so im looking for cheap tires for a reason
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: ajgs500 on May 26, 2006, 04:01:54 PM
The Chin-Shen (sp?) are pretty cheap but IMO tires are NOT something you should go ultra- cheapy on.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: shik on May 26, 2006, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: werase643 on May 26, 2006, 03:48:08 PM
remember.... cheap ass tires are cheap for a reason
good tires...same goes

its a bike, ya only got 2 tires, better hope you never have to ride through a blow out


I can only agree, cheap tires are BAD, the first thing im getting when i get my next paycheck is a decent reartire, lifes to precious to save money on stuff like that.

And william.betts... Try driving with cheap tires in the rain, I promise you, it's like driving on ice or soap or something like that. Really not worth it. Save a little extra / spend a little extra, and get some decent stuff.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: corndog67 on May 26, 2006, 04:13:49 PM
The best prices are the mail order guys like chaparall, or MAW or a bunch of others.  But some dealers will gouge you to put them on if they didn't get them for you.  I do my own with a pair of tire irons.   
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: skoebl on May 26, 2006, 04:40:33 PM
I just got my Metzelers from MAW http://www.mawonline.com

Lazertecs
Front: 110/80/17  About 90 bucks
Rear: 150/70/17  About 110 bucks

So really not too bad (they also had a deal going where if you bought metzeler tires you only had to pay 10 bucks shipping)
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: Queso on May 26, 2006, 06:07:02 PM
I don't know what kind of tire I got, but I got a 110/80/17 from the dealership today for 95 installed. The tire itself was 60. Is that a cheap tire?
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: kurtr on May 26, 2006, 08:17:13 PM
The decal on the frame of my '01 says to use Bridgestone tires.  (No doubt some deal Suzuki & Bridgestone worked out in their OEM pricing).

I plan to get mine from mawonline.com.  Search this webpage...

http://www.mawonline.com/bridgest.htm#Tires%20street

... for "G547"    (Front tire, $71.95)
... for "G550"    (Rear tire, $82.95)
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: Kerry on May 27, 2006, 12:32:27 AM
kurtr, the G457 and G550 tires are the Exedras that came stock on my '99 (and all earlier models).  I think the best thing I ever did was slap on a pair of Bridgestone Battlax BT45H tires in the stock sizes (after the Exedras wore out).  They cost the same (or less!) but they perform a lot better.

I have tried a set of Metzeler bias tires, but I liked the feel of the BT45s a little better.  (I haven't tried Sport Demons or other "sport" tires" or radials -- yet -- so I can't comment on them.)

From MAW's Bridgestone Street (http://www.mawonline.com/bridgest.htm#Tires%20street) page:

Bridgestone G547 Front Tire 
  Order # Price........ Description......
  (29895)     $71.95 Bridgestone Exedra 110/70H17 G547 Tubeless Front Tire Mfg.#: 036080

Bridgestone G550 Rear Tire 
  Order # Price........ Description......
  (18129)     $82.95 Bridgestone Exedra 130/70H17 G550 Tubeless Rear Tire Mfg.#: 021601 

==============================================

Bridgestone BT45H Front Tire
  Order # Price........ Description......
  (68391)     $71.95 Bridgestone BT45H 110/70H17 Front Tire Mfg.#: 066095 
  (68392)     $71.95 Bridgestone BT45H 110/80H17 Front Tire Mfg.#: 066036 

Bridgestone BT45H Rear Tire 
  Order # Price........ Description......
  (68401)     $77.95 Bridgestone BT45H 130/70H17 Rear Tire Mfg.#: 066192 
  (68400)     $65.95 Bridgestone BT45H 130/80H17 Rear Tire Mfg.#: 066184
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No way would I spend the same (or more!) for Exedras when I could have BT45Hs.  :nono:  For what it's worth, I just mounted my 3rd BT45H on the rear rim a month ago.  :thumb:


PS - With the rear BT45H series, you may have noticed that the 130/80-17 is a little cheaper than the 130/70-17.  I "took advantage" of that once, thinking that I would get more miles for the same number of wheel revolutions (since the tire should be a little taller).

Well, my thinking turned out to be backwards.  The 130/80-17 also has a rounder cross section, which meant that the centerline "stuck out" more ... and the tread wore down in fewer miles.  :mad:
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: runsilent on May 27, 2006, 07:43:24 AM
I wouldn't think of buying a replacement Excedra for a GS500, there are much better choices.  The Excedra has been replaced by the BT45 as OE tire for 2003 and later GS500s.  As Kerry points out, a much better choice than the Excedra.

I've found that MAW shipping and handling on tires in the past has been $30-35 for a pair although that might be different now.  Check out this charge if you are going to buy from them and compare with AMT and Southwest including the shipping charges.

http://www.americanmototire.com/

http://swmototires.com/
 
The BT45 was a good choice in the past but is getting a bit dated now.  The newer up to date tires from the other tire mfgs are better tires now.  Latest in construction and tread compounds.  Compare the prices of the Demons, Lasertecs, and Pilot Actives before buying.  I've got about 6k miles on a pair of Lasertecs now and a lot of miles to go yet.  They are every bit as good all around as the Metz and Avon sport touring radials  I've used up.  Just won't last as long.

One thing that always bothers me concerning tire choices is how many get on the bandwagon and recommend the latest and greatest as the only safe choice.  Certainly is a valid consideration for blasting thru the twisties chasing liter bikes, but many come here looking for more econimical choices for 99% commuter use.  Commuting to school or work on a budget.

I put a Kenda 671 on the back of an old CM400 to use it for another winter and my slightly used 02 GS500 came with a Kenda 657 rear that I ran for 5k miles before replacing the next spring and it was only about half worn when replaced by the Avon ST radials.  I found these Kendas to be better than Excedras and closer to the BT45s in dry handling.  Also the Avon AM51/52 tires should give about 10k miles of commuter duty.  These Kenda and Avon AM tires can be bought for $90-115 plus shipping for a pair.  Found best prices for the Kendas at Chaparral lately.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: onefastgs500 on May 27, 2006, 11:22:33 AM
go michelin or go home i always say(pilot powers are the beesknees)
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on May 27, 2006, 11:26:56 AM
i order a front a rear maxxis

http://www.maxxistires.com/products/motorcycle/product_detail.asp?id=161

http://www.maxxistires.com/products/motorcycle/product_detail.asp?id=162
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: corndog67 on May 27, 2006, 12:27:46 PM
Quote from: runsilent on May 27, 2006, 07:43:24 AM
I wouldn't think of buying a replacement Excedra for a GS500, there are much better choices.  The Excedra has been replaced by the BT45 as OE tire for 2003 and later GS500s.  As Kerry points out, a much better choice than the Excedra.

I've found that MAW shipping and handling on tires in the past has been $30-35 for a pair although that might be different now.  Check out this charge if you are going to buy from them and compare with AMT and Southwest including the shipping charges.

http://www.americanmototire.com/

http://swmototires.com/
 
The BT45 was a good choice in the past but is getting a bit dated now.  The newer up to date tires from the other tire mfgs are better tires now.  Latest in construction and tread compounds.  Compare the prices of the Demons, Lasertecs, and Pilot Actives before buying.  I've got about 6k miles on a pair of Lasertecs now and a lot of miles to go yet.  They are every bit as good all around as the Metz and Avon sport touring radials  I've used up.  Just won't last as long.

One thing that always bothers me concerning tire choices is how many get on the bandwagon and recommend the latest and greatest as the only safe choice.  Certainly is a valid consideration for blasting thru the twisties chasing liter bikes, but many come here looking for more econimical choices for 99% commuter use.  Commuting to school or work on a budget.

I put a Kenda 671 on the back of an old CM400 to use it for another winter and my slightly used 02 GS500 came with a Kenda 657 rear that I ran for 5k miles before replacing the next spring and it was only about half worn when replaced by the Avon ST radials.  I found these Kendas to be better than Excedras and closer to the BT45s in dry handling.  Also the Avon AM51/52 tires should give about 10k miles of commuter duty.  These Kenda and Avon AM tires can be bought for $90-115 plus shipping for a pair.  Found best prices for the Kendas at Chaparral lately.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com

I put a Kenda on a BMW K100 I used to have.  In the rain the Beemer would spin that tire in 5 th gear just rolling on the throttle.  It was, in my opinion, very dangerous.  I wouldn't buy another one. 
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: Trwhouse on May 27, 2006, 01:58:12 PM
Hi there,

Here are my tire recommendations from a previous thread:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24322.0

Here are my recommendations from that thread:

I tried Dunlop Elites on my GS500E several years ago and was VERY unhappy because they didn't have 70 Series tires and I had to use 80 or 90 Series aspect ratios. Terrible handling, and the bike FELL into corners. Unnerving.

The Solution:

Then last spring I mounted a set of proper 70 Series Michelin Macadam 50/50E tires and they are GREAT! I'm still very satisfied with their performance, wet and dry traction and reasonable prices if you buy them from one of the better and cheaper online companies.  Check Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse and others, then call Dennis Kirk to give you the tires for a dollar less than the best price you can get, including shipping.

Here's the Michelin Web page for the tires:
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004104059&codePage=2092004104059_10092004111900&lang=EN
My bike handles great again, traction is excellent wet or dry, braking is phenomenal and my bike is much improved.  I used stock sizes and am VERY pleased.

The full tire recommendation thread from last October is at:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=22069.0

Good luck,
Yours,
Todd
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: DerekNC on May 27, 2006, 04:49:02 PM
Ron Ayer's has these Avon AM51 front and AM52 rear. They are less than $135 including shipping. I haven't tried these so maybe someone else will know about their performance and longevity. They seem to be marketed towards commuters but have a sporty looking tread.

http://www.ronayers.com/catalogs/tires/parts.cfm?secid=7&type=165

Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: runsilent on May 27, 2006, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: corndog67 on May 27, 2006, 12:27:46 PM
I put a Kenda on a BMW K100 I used to have.  In the rain the Beemer would spin that tire in 5 th gear just rolling on the throttle.  It was, in my opinion, very dangerous.  I wouldn't buy another one. 

I wouldn't have put the first Kenda on a K100 or on any other literbike.   :thumb:
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: runsilent on May 27, 2006, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Trwhouse on May 27, 2006, 01:58:12 PM
Then last spring I mounted a set of proper 70 Series Michelin Macadam 50/50E tires and they are GREAT! I'm still very satisfied with their performance, wet and dry traction and reasonable prices if you buy them from one of the better and cheaper online companies.  Check Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse and others, then call Dennis Kirk to give you the tires for a dollar less than the best price you can get, including shipping.

The Mac 50's are just about obsolete now having been replaced by the new Pilot Activs.  The Activ has the latest in tread compounds and should be even better in wet and dry traction and also last longer according to Michelins claims.  They are competative with the Demons and Lasertecs as I mentioned above, the latest in sport touring bias ply tires that come in GS500 OE sizes.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: Jason on May 31, 2006, 08:02:05 AM
 I just ordered the Sportec M-1's in a 110/70zr-17 front and a 150/60zr-17 rear from Motorcycle-Superstore.com The total was just under $200. I personally was not overly pleased with the stock BT45's. My front is cupped causing even more vibration to be transmitted through the handle bar and my rear is wearing down the center like I go on cross country trips all with 5,550 miles. yes I could probably get another 8,000 out of them if I kept riding it this way but I don't want to. I just feel if I have to replace my tires every 5,000 or so miles I want something that is gonna be stickier and wear out as opposed to something harder that is gonna cup and upset the bike. JMO.
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: CRXDrew on May 31, 2006, 09:29:10 AM
*shrug* I just mounted up a Maxxis Promaxx in the front. It was definitely better than having a dry rotted no tread oem tire. Can't really beat 40 bucks shipped to my door in just under a week either. got it from chapparel-racing.com
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: ets_gs500f2004 on June 01, 2006, 05:39:25 AM
hey guys !!!! I work in a tire shop but we dont deal with the motorcycle ones tho... to get to the point !!!! the problem is that you might have the best power bike or the best brakes....... but if you cant apply it to the ground whats the point of having every thing..   like a car has about four packs of smoke patches that touches the ground and now you have smaller then 2 packs of smoke..... in the end why risk your life for money... id say park it if you have to and save up and buy good ones and if you save a ding on the bike it will save you alot more money !!!!
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on June 01, 2006, 06:13:15 AM
you know something i have worked with tires before in a tire shop and unless you are racing there is no difference from a expensive tire and a cheap tire

Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: ets_gs500f2004 on June 01, 2006, 06:29:47 AM
thats what you think.... lets say your taking a curve like a everyday driver the car in front of you slams the brake do you think your tires arent doin anything good because your not racing... weither you like it or not tires can save your ass and a flick of a second something can happen and if the tire cant take what your asking for it well guess what its bang your in it to...... so yes tires are important trust me ive seen stuff been true stuff and i try out tires like crazy exept on my car and it does a dif so dont think if i dont race tires dont make a difference.... because yes it does and i know what im talking about !!!!! i went true courses and stuff to see the diffrence in tires and it is true tryed it been there 
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: william.betts on June 01, 2006, 06:33:17 AM
so what your are telling me is that because i bought cheap tires im screwed when i bought my tires i called maxxis i talked with them about there tires they are as good as any other tire and i have talked to several of my buds who say they are good tires beside if you lock the brakes up on a bike your pretty much screwed any ways
Title: Re: having a problem finding tires
Post by: runsilent on June 01, 2006, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: william.betts on June 01, 2006, 06:33:17 AM
so what your are telling me is that because i bought cheap tires im screwed when i bought my tires i called maxxis i talked with them about there tires they are as good as any other tire and i have talked to several of my buds who say they are good tires beside if you lock the brakes up on a bike your pretty much screwed any ways

You were looking for budget tires and in spite of all the good and bad advice you received here, I think you made a good choice in tires for your needs.  Quite a few members here have tried the ProMax and commented favorably on their performance.