What Im asking is, who makes them, I want one.
The reason for this is because Im watching it on speed (channel not the drug) and one guy layed his bike down and he and another guy just picked up the front of the bike and shook out the dirt in the fairing. So I'm guessing that they are really really really light.
So who makes these dream machines I want one
Honda... Aprilla... KTM
Pretty much everyone makes em, you just can't get them in the states.
My favorite is the CBR125R
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/DispatcherServlet?hidActionDetail=viewproductdetail&hidAction=Lookup&hidProductID=81&hidSelectedProductCode=CBR125R&hidProductName=CBR125R&hidMSGID=11&hidMSGCode=CC125&hidMSGName=125+CC&hidBannerPath=%2FmcStatic%2Fen%2Fpicture%2Fproduct%2FCBR125R%2Fprd_main_Banner.jpg&hidHomePath=%2Fjsp%2FmsgCC125Home.jsp
whats the reasoning behind not being able to not get them in the US
I'd say money is why. Americans only like large-displacement, fully-faired bikes. In general, anyways. With the restrictions they have across the pond, smaller bikes get more love.
I don't think the CBR125R is a 125cc GP bike. GP bikes are two-strokes, that little CBR is a 4-stroke.
gp bikes...125cc 2 stroke 165 pounds 45 HP
they are f*cking incredible
The KTM has 55 HP and weighs 136 KG minimum WITH RIDER.
The 250 is a twin cylinder of the 125 at 110 HP 101 KG dry.
Same bore and stroke as the 125 KTM motocrossers.
Stack the cylinders and build a 1 liter V8 with 440 HP.
is there anyway to get is shipped to the US
I have good hook ups in Australia and Europe. I can have one disassembled and shipped in packages to you...but you're looking at spending serious money for it.
race bike only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
engine top end rebuilds are at 150 miles
piston kit at 300
crank rebuild at 1200
this is for a honda rs125.....i have a 1992
http://www.rscycles.com/
http://www.fatbaq.com/mainpage.phtml
The EU does still have some slick sport street legal 125 2strokes.
Probably will get killed eventually with emissions.
any two stroke engine over 50cc's is illegal for street use :cry: in the US.
they made the yamaha ZUMA II illegal either last yr or this and it is a 49cc as far as i know
awsome scooter
Quote from: vtlion on June 01, 2006, 10:56:15 AM
any two stroke engine over 50cc's is illegal for street use :cry: in the US.
Wrong.
Quote from: makenzie71 on June 01, 2006, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: vtlion on June 01, 2006, 10:56:15 AM
any two stroke engine over 50cc's is illegal for street use :cry: in the US.
Wrong.
I wish when some one would call some one out, that they would at least try to offer some credible evidence suggesting other wise
Quote from: TadMC on June 01, 2006, 06:26:25 PM
I wish when some one would call some one out, that they would at least try to offer some credible evidence suggesting other wise
(http://www.50cc.nl/images/kawamach3750.jpg)
(http://www.50cc.nl/images/Gt750JM.jpg)
(http://eudy.carva.nom.br/RD350/Aros17/RZ350.jpg)
Credible enough? That's the H2 and GT 750 and RZ350 respectively...which are still very much legal. On top of that:
(http://www.sideshowinfo.com/kx500/Riders%20Pics/Kx%20Legalth.jpg)
I couldn't find better pics of it...hit google image and search "KX500 Street"
Displacement # of strokes has nothing to do with whether it's legal or not...there's plenty of other things that f%$k us over for the goodies, don't add to the list.
I wasnt saying that you were fibbing. I just wanted to know.
another awesomedacious street legal smoker...
http://www.maxx-events.nl/streetortrack/verkiezing/pics/rgv%20800.jpg
HUGE pic...
It looks like there's no outright ban on 2-strokes in the US. However, for a while, until 2006, all 2-stroke had to pass EPA certification (which is hard to do, because 2-strokes are fairly dirty). However, 49cc and lower 2-strokes used to be except from EPA certification, which I guess they no longer are. I believe older vehicles are also exempt (hence the bikes Mak pointed out). I'm having a hard time finding the exact law, but that's what I pieced together.
There isn't really a law about it. Anything that can pass emmissions, if it's a tested feature, and has a VIN and title can be made raod-legal easily. If it doesn't have a VIN then you have to have a local cop sign off on it as road-safe. This is why a dirtbike can be made road legal except in places like california and Houston and sch where the emmissions testing is mondo strict.
I stand corrected. I still don't think you will ever see them becuase making them emissions friendly is too much of a pain/expense for manufacturers to bother with.
And I don't buy the "americans only like big, powerful bikes" explanation. Most of the riders I know find bikes of all displacements interesting and fun. Not to mention that two strokes are more powerful per displacement than 4-strokes. So I would think that would make the 2-stroke lovers the power junkies
actually america as a whole wants big bikes. Why do think we only saw like 2 years of the 4-stroke 400 sports? Never got the SV400...or the CBR250...etc. Some Americans will buy them, but America will not.
What about the Aprillia 50's? I saw one down at a local dealer. It was used but still in mechanically good shape! (had been lowsided a couple times)
Couldn't get to ride it but MAN was it light, I practically could have picked it up and run off with it! (I could lift it ENTIRELY off the ground :) Would be a great practice bike.
Yes but americans are also lazy as heck, 2 strokes need more maintenance. But I have to admit, the CR500 almost makes it worth it.
Quote from: makenzie71 on June 02, 2006, 11:56:01 AM
actually america as a whole wants big bikes. Why do think we only saw like 2 years of the 4-stroke 400 sports? Never got the SV400...or the CBR250...etc. Some Americans will buy them, but America will not.
That's exactly what I was saying. Some of us may buy them, but America as a whole will not. shaZam!, people scoff at the 500's. The guy at Cycle Gear asked if I *still* had my GS500. Yeah, and you *still* have your SV650, so settle down.
If I could find a clean running RS50 I would snap it up in a heartbeat. Those things are awesome.
http://www.michaelsreno.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=09396479X6K2K2006J2I35I42JPMQ288R0&veh=7545&pov=282524
Teh 50