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Title: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 03, 2006, 02:48:54 PM
Can someone explain to me how to remove the gas and choke cables?? I can't see any way to get them out without breaking something...
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 03, 2006, 02:52:05 PM
From the carb, I mean... Trying to clean it out... My bike is pretty dirty... I thnk it started life as an east coast bike.
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 03, 2006, 02:53:21 PM
And by the way, I have searched, but I can't seem to find anything that talks about what I'm looking to do, and those that did weren't very detailed  :cry:
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: NightRyder on June 03, 2006, 03:57:33 PM
The gas and choke cables hmm?

The choke is done by pushing the choke full open from the wrong side by hand. (yea, it makes sense, seriously!) Then you can create slack with the cable on that end too. If you look closely there is a round-flatened meatal ball attached to the end of the cable, and it is in a 'maze'. You need slack from the cable, and then rotate it and slide the metal thing out. Ok, I know that is a horrible explanation. Just look at the end of the cable, and figure out how to get the end off. Then once you do the cable can be taken off the carbs (with some routing it around)

As for the gas cable, that is a much harder one to do. It is in place using 2 or 3 nuts/bolts and it takes alot of cursing and time. Oh, and a few small open-end wrenches that fit.

yea.. so just go for it. You should be able to take the carb off the bike, with the cables still attached. Do that then look at how to take them off.

[/unofficial worst instructions]
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: TragicImage on June 03, 2006, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: NightRyder on June 03, 2006, 03:57:33 PM
...and figure out how to get the end off...

[/unofficial worst instructions]


yea no... I would call that an official "worst instructions".


I liked the part where you told him to "Just figure it out"....
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: NightRyder on June 03, 2006, 04:07:11 PM
:/ Well, he said he found other instructions, but they were not detailed.. I couldn't just leave him hanging..
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: MarkusN on June 03, 2006, 04:07:57 PM
Choke cable:
At the carb end: pull on the cable sleeve and unhook it from its seat. Now you can unhook the cable endpiece.


Gas cable:
Loosen the counternut and screw the adjuster nipple all in. You may need to screw the adjuster at the handlebar end all in as well. That gives you slack on the cable so that you can pull it, rotate it out 90° sideways and slide it out of its attachment (which has a slot for the cable at these 90°.) That one is hard. I never manage to do it without mucho swearing. (Especially when re-attaching.)
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: NightRyder on June 03, 2006, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: MarkusN..stuff..
:bowdown:
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 03, 2006, 04:29:05 PM
Actually, that helped a lot! Thanks! I got it off... Now I've got one carb disassembled and I've already lost a washer on that needle thing. almost lost the spring seat, too...
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: NightRyder on June 03, 2006, 04:40:51 PM
nooo... That washer is important! Plus, it is hard to buy, apparently.
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 03, 2006, 09:20:25 PM
Hard to buy??!! Aww crap.. Well, Tomorrow I'm going to see if I can get 4 from Ace hardware. It was running lean with 2 washers, now it's only got one on each needle. So hopefully I can get ahold of some to put in 3 on each needle. If that don't work, then it's off to the stealership. I learned a valuable lesson today.. Leave well enough alone... It was running better before I started  :cry:
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: scratch on June 04, 2006, 08:49:41 AM
I find a small flat screwdriver helps to guide the barrel-end of the cable out of it's cage/maze.
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 05, 2006, 08:56:31 AM
I finally got it all out, and found my carbs were actually pretty clean... No rust in the float bowls, and other than a lil gunk in the top parts, they were spotless. Jets are all stock, I think, which with the UNI filter and V&H exhaust could explain why it seems to be running lean with 3 jet needle #2 washers each, and 3 turns on the mix screw... I really didn't want to put any money into performance upgrades, but it seems I may need to rejet.

Any suggestions with what I should go with, anyone? I've seen so many different things I have no clue what I should do. UNI filter in stock airbox with V&H exhaust - what jetting y'all think?
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on June 05, 2006, 11:39:07 AM
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Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: scratch on June 05, 2006, 12:01:11 PM
He's got a 2000: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=26564.msg279734#msg279734

A simple click on his profile, show all posts, and look at the last couple of pages of posts (pg. 12 of 13, in this case), and volia, somewhere in the first dozen posts the poster will state what year GS he, or she, has.  :)

But, yeah, it would be nice if either the year of his bike was in his post, or listed under his avatar area.  This goes for anybody.
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Kerry on June 05, 2006, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Queso on June 05, 2006, 08:56:31 AM
I finally got it all out, and found my carbs were actually pretty clean... No rust in the float bowls, and other than a lil gunk in the top parts, they were spotless.

You didn't specifically mention the jets, which are the most important items where "carb cleanliness" is concerned.  I have no reason to suspect that your jets are gummed up at all, but it doesn't take much "gum" to effectively reduce the jets a size or two.

To clean the jets, spray some carb cleaner into a small container (I use a clean apple sauce cup) and drop them into the "pool".  Let 'em sit for 15 or 20 minutes (agitate occasionally if you like) and then BLOW them out.

If you hold them up to the light before and after cleaning, you should be able to tell a difference (IF they were dirty).
Title: Re: Please help with How-To!!
Post by: Queso on June 05, 2006, 02:17:34 PM
Profile updated... Sorry aboot that...

I did look through the jets, and everything looked real clean. The carbs were largely gunk free, the jets, needles, parts, and everything looked almost good as new. Even the floats were only slightly yellowed. Seems to be running pretty decently for now. Stopped the deceleration backfiring, but now it just backfires occasionally at random. The revs don't go as high with the choke open anymore, too.