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Title: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 10, 2006, 03:39:12 PM
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Do you think I can safely squeeze out another 500 or so miles?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Kasumi on June 10, 2006, 03:43:18 PM
The marks which indicate you need a new tyre are level. But you could still get 500 miles out if you really want, but is it worth it? So long as there is no rain then its fine, get in the rain and your going to have slippy tyres.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 10, 2006, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: Kasumi on June 10, 2006, 03:43:18 PM
.. but is it worth it?

Well, there is a chance I will be getting rid of the bike after the end of this month. I don't want to invest the money into brand new tires if I will be getting rid of it anyways.  :dunno_white: If I change my mind, and keep the bike, then of course I will buy all new rubber.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Kasumi on June 10, 2006, 03:52:57 PM
Well if your selling it i wouldn't worry so long as your not out in the rain.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: scratch on June 10, 2006, 04:43:12 PM
Of course, you are leaving a bargaining point for the buyer if you leave the tires.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Kasumi on June 10, 2006, 05:06:03 PM
Yea it would be easier to sell if you said just had brand new tyres - just been scrubbed in seen 50 miles or so, ready for riding. Then just add the cost of the tyres onto what you wanted for the bike.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: mp183 on June 10, 2006, 06:50:28 PM
I had less than that when I started in Florida and made it to NJ on my DL650 in the winter.
We went a little further than we intended and that was the reason I let it get that low.
Did over almost 3,300 miles in 6 days.
If you are concerned change it, it's worth it to have peace of mind.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: ets_gs500f2004 on June 12, 2006, 10:29:36 AM
i wouldnt try it..... if you hit rain and damage the bike it would end up to cost you more
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: onefastgs500 on June 12, 2006, 10:33:33 AM
i can't see the air in it -so ride it and quit being a wussy!! :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: 3imo on June 12, 2006, 10:39:18 AM
not recomended but I've done worse.

short trips on dry pavement, I wouldn't worry. but keep your speed down and don't forget your tires are worn.

The rear tire will tend to slide easier when you downshift.  otherwise keep it in the back of your head and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Egaeus on June 12, 2006, 10:45:08 AM
There's plenty of tread on the sides, so just keep it leaned over, and you'll be juuuuust fine.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Jake D on June 12, 2006, 11:42:17 AM
I would try and find somebody here with some race take offs. 

My new rule is that if you think you might need a new tire, you already do.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: sledge on June 12, 2006, 12:22:39 PM
I dunno what your tyre laws are like but the tyre laws over here are very stringent.  Your tyre would be right on the borderline in the UK and it certainly wouldnt pass an MOT. If the Cops stopped you or you were involved in accident you could be in deep sh**. Plus you are putting yourself at greater risk. You mention you are going to sell the bike.  Worn tyres will put any`clued-up` potential buyer right off. They will notice the wear and use it as leverage to get a reduction in price or they may just turn round and walk away. Worn tyres suggest to buyers that the bike has not been looked after or properly maintained. I would replace the tyre(s) and use it as a selling point, then put double the price of the tyre(s) on the asking price of the bike.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: LimaXray on June 12, 2006, 12:29:40 PM
I agree with everyone about not selling it with worn tires.  I'm sure if you shop it you can get a cheapy tire put on for less than an informed buyer would try to knock down the price.  Tires are deffinately a key selling point of any vehicle
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 12, 2006, 01:29:54 PM
Eh...  I've ridden on worse...  But, I broke loose on dry pavement.  :o

If you ride like you're on dead tires, then you'll probably be ok.

But, if you crash don't blame me. :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: TragicImage on June 12, 2006, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: sledge on June 12, 2006, 12:22:39 PM
I dunno what your tyre laws are like but the tyre laws over here are very stringent. 


Tire laws?  we don't need no stinking tire laws.... we work on Darwinism.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 12, 2006, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: TragicImage on June 12, 2006, 01:34:02 PM
Tire laws?  we don't need no stinking tire laws.... we work on Darwinism.

:laugh: Yeah, I am not worried about being pulled over for it. But I know for a fact that it would not pass inspection. I seriously doubt the front would, either, though it is not as worn.

However, I figured hell with it, and ordered some new tires today.  :thumb:  The main reason is that I'll be heading down to PA, doing a group ride, etc, for the GStwin.com Northeast Meet n' Greet (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24531.0). I'd like to make it there, enjoy the ride, and get back safely.

Another reason is that if I DO sell the bike, I want the damn thing to atleast be able to pass inspection.  :laugh: I mean, I prolly wouldn't buy a bike that wouldn't pass inspection without work, and if I did, I wouldn't want to pay what the bike is worth.

So anyway, I ordered a set of Pirelli Sport Demons. Of course they were out of stock, but I should be getting them this week. Atleast I'll have the peace of mind  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 12, 2006, 04:39:15 PM
Good!   :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 15, 2006, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Phaedrus on June 10, 2006, 03:39:12 PM
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Ok, now I got my new Pirelli Sport Demons on, front and rear. I didn't ride much other than the 30 or so miles from the dealer to home (just pikced her up tonight). This rear tire looks MUCH better, and yes I can totally feel a difference in grip. Not just from the worn out tire, but from the stock tires. I am happy:

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Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 15, 2006, 04:24:33 PM
Sweeeet!  I love new tires (once they're broken in).  Mine aren't too far off...  I think I have another 4k in 'em.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/RVertigo/MotosPhotos/DSC01967.jpg
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: rangerbrown on June 15, 2006, 04:51:08 PM
i road mine till the  tread was gone, 11,580.9 miles on the stock rear bt-045

how many do you have?
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 15, 2006, 04:54:49 PM
I got about 12,500 on the stock BT...  But, it was BALD!!! :o

I have about 4500 on my Sport Demons...  Looks like Phaedrus 10k on that one...
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Chris2P on June 15, 2006, 06:25:06 PM
Why are you thinking of selling your bike?  Are you looking at a new one?


Chris
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 15, 2006, 10:08:17 PM
Rangerbrown / RVertigo - The mileage on that worn BT-45 was a little less than 6k. The front (not pictured) was 10k. I bought the bike brand new in July of '04 with 0 miles, and had to buy a new rear tire at just over 4k.

Chris - I was (still am) thinking of selling it to put the $ toward getting a small pickup. Maybe something like an S10, Dakota, T100, something of that sort. I haven't decided 100% yet, I am wishy washy at this point.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2006, 12:54:06 AM
Quote from: Phaedrus on June 15, 2006, 10:08:17 PMThe mileage on that worn BT-45 was a little less than 6k.
Wow...  Not nearly as much as I thought...
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 16, 2006, 05:29:49 AM
Yeah, I didn't get very impressive mileage out of those. I take pretty good care of the tires, too, I make sure the pressures are proper, and I don't do burn outs or anything stupid. I'm not even a really aggressive sport rider. I have done quite a bit of interstate miles, but I wouldn't think that would be that difficult on the tires. Eh who knows. The important thing is I got new ones.

I have heard the Pirelli's don't really give many more miles than the BT45's, but thats ok. They are a hell of a lot stickier  :thumb:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2006, 12:47:32 PM
Yeah....  I'm under the same impression.  THat's why I'm so shocked about the tire wear you had.  I'm over 4k on mine, and they look a lot better than those...  I can't imagine that another 2k are going to wear them that much.

Maybe it's all the rain around here.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: rangerbrown on June 16, 2006, 12:58:02 PM
most of miles were winter, so... but i have done some 5-10 sec burn outs like twice on that tire.

i also never checked the pressure in it, ever.   so i dont knwo what it had to get such milage.

seems like Thatguy also said he only got about 6.5k out of his as well.


who odd that some got only half the miles that others got.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2006, 01:02:04 PM
I haven't been nice to my Sport Demons either...  I usually check the pressure, but I ride when it's low sometimes...  Sometimes I spin it a little pulling away from lights...  I've caught air...  TONS of potholes...

I really don't get it either...


Heat?  Maybe hot roads heat the tire up more making it wear faster...
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: onefastgs500 on June 16, 2006, 01:03:35 PM
i always ride on bald tyres on the gs
of course they are michelin pilot SLICKS :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Kasumi on June 16, 2006, 01:10:46 PM
I would guess the hotter the road the stickier your tires get/ thus the more rubber they lose on a run.
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Alphamazing on June 16, 2006, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on June 16, 2006, 01:02:04 PM
Heat?  Maybe hot roads heat the tire up more making it wear faster...

And speed. I noticed scuffing and rubber-balling on my tire after extended high speed interstate rides. And that was around the center of the tire too, not even near the edge (which scuffs when you're banked into a corner).
Title: Re: Can I squeeze another 500 miles out?
Post by: Phaedrus on June 16, 2006, 06:19:42 PM
I live in New York. It isn't that hot here  :icon_razz: But I do go one some pretty long rides on the interstate for several hours at a time. Either that, or the salt from the roads from the winter in the spring when I get the bike out helps promote tire wear, I dunno.  :dunno_white: