Ok first thing's first. I love my GS, and I will always keep it.
That being said I want ZOMFGMONKEYBALLSWTFCOPTER power!
Of course I want a used bike, but also I want something that won't rape the hell out of me on insurance. (I.E. No Hayabusa.... :( ) Being a 20yr old male sucks sometimes.
So I axed off the first two obvious choices right out of the box. (ZX-14 and Busa)
Would like something that can handle too, but that's secondary to the huge lump of iron in the frame.
Thoughts I had
Honda Hornet (CB 919) With a power commander ECU (To make it remember, "Oh yeah, this engine is from the FIREBLADE!")
Suzuki Bandit 1200, Don't know much about it, but 1200cc's is hard to go wrong with.
Suzuki GSX1400 Handling is suposedly sucky, and I'd have to try to find one in the U.S.
Basically stuff that flies under the supersport insurance group and still rocks like nobody's business. (Low seat height is a plus.)
How I ride:
I like to rocket around a bit, and grind down some pegs.
I know the FZ1 is an obvious choice, but MAN is that thing UGLY! (My opinion.)
Any thoughts? (Besides using two GS500 engines in one bike?)
(http://www.z1000.net/UploadImages%5CZ1000-1.jpg)
Agreed with Alpha i saw one today at the Banbury run right next to where i live (HUGE vintage motorcycle run but everyone turns up 300+ bikes on half a mile stretch of hill) but it was gorgeous, exhausts a major wow factor and the sound was gorgeous, plus it looked like a street fighter.
If you want an insanly powered bike a Buell Firebolt XB12R. There was one at the run today. It looked small but that means good handling and excellent control and low weight. The torque that it put out was insane. The guy ragged it away and the whole bike weight which isnt much went streight onto the rear shock as the power came through. It looked insane, and high torque makes for extreme overtaking and off the line speed and with the 1200 engine you get a decent top speed too without the effort of changing gears. I am seriously considering one for my next bike because it would be just a fun bike to have.
I think you need to grow up first. :thumb:
Quote from: Kasumi on June 18, 2006, 02:59:54 PM
If you want an insanly powered bike a Buell Firebolt XB12R.
Holy shaZam!, Ive ridden one of these, I was afraid to go over third gear............. cuz i was going 110!!!!!!
Super powerful bike?
Bandit 1200 with GSXR 1100 cams, mild port and polish, full exhaust, K&N pods, ignition advancer, and I don't remember what else he has but it's all simple bolt-on shaZam!...it's my buddy's. Dyno'ed 120 ft/lbs a couple weeks ago. 154rwhp.
The XB12R is pretty badass...about 78lbs of torque out of the box.
That modded bandit sounds nice
I really like the Z1000, but I think I need to wait for some depreciation to happen before I can get one. It was about 120hp too, nice!
The CB919 dyno's around 100hp, and only weighs 427lbs.
The Bandit with the GSX1100 Cams sounds like a good one too.
As for growing up.... I want to leave a beautiful (if slightly mangled) corpse. That and by the time I can afford it I'll be a bit older 8) And maybe even more :icon_twisted:
Z1000s sell for ~$4200-$5000 on eBay all the time.
B12's run 2500~3500...Jason's bike hit the numbers listed above with less than $1k invested.
Quote from: TadMC on June 18, 2006, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: Kasumi on June 18, 2006, 02:59:54 PM
If you want an insanly powered bike a Buell Firebolt XB12R.
Holy shaZam!, Ive ridden one of these, I was afraid to go over third gear............. cuz i was going 110!!!!!!
that there is some funny shaZam!. I get 105 in second...with only 600cc.
anyway, BANDIT 1200 is the biggest bang for your buck. drop a slip on and rejet-adds 10-13 hp! cheap, even new. you can sometimes find 2004's new in dealers for under $4000. used market is huge. massive aftermarket. and you can hustle one of those pretty good.
here's a video shot from spectators perspective of a previous trackday:
http://media.putfile.com/streets-32406-pablo-and-greg\
the guy I'm mixing it up with, Greg, is on a first gen bandit 1200. only issue with 1st or 2nd gen bandits is ground clearance when you're at superbike pace on the track.
all the regular guys I ride with I met through the bandit forum at maximum-suzuki.com and they all haul ass.
Quote from: pantablo on June 18, 2006, 09:01:56 PM
Quote from: TadMC on June 18, 2006, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: Kasumi on June 18, 2006, 02:59:54 PM
If you want an insanly powered bike a Buell Firebolt XB12R.
Holy shaZam!, Ive ridden one of these, I was afraid to go over third gear............. cuz i was going 110!!!!!!
that there is some funny shaZam!. I get 105 in second...with only 600cc.
Well im used to the GS, It is my first bike so 110 in 3rd is pretty fucthin fast!! So it aint that funny biatch......
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.. ok i didnt mean the biatch part
Anyway to get rid of the big, ugly, shitty fairing? (Ok it's not that big, but I HATE when the front of the bike does not move with the handlebars.)
Actually, was kind of hoping for something lighter. and more GS500E (NO FAIRING!) in the face.
Actually I kinda like full fairings some of the time, but those little nose fairings drive me NUTS!
Quote from: CirclesCenter on June 19, 2006, 12:10:48 AM
Anyway to get rid of the big, ugly, shitty fairing? (Ok it's not that big, but I HATE when the front of the bike does not move with the handlebars.)
Actually, was kind of hoping for something lighter. and more GS500E (NO FAIRING!) in the face.
Actually I kinda like full fairings some of the time, but those little nose fairings drive me NUTS!
(http://siamsuperbike.com/images/Bike_pics/Touring/Kawasaki%20Z1000.jpg)
i nice mild step above the gs is the speed triple T509, wonderfull bike. rode one a while back, never seems to stop pulling
Get an FZ1 and do a Euro conversion
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dlchris1/2006_FZ1-N.jpg)
There's nothing ugly about it and it's an I-4 literbike, that should be enough power for you
You can do it to the older models too not just the 06
that thing is beautiful
Good thing that is not released in the US . . I'm sure my wife would devorce me after I parked it in the liveing room. :icon_mrgreen:
brutally powerful? i had fun on one of these once :laugh:
(http://digivex.com/jetski/vmax/P1010001.JPG)
Mmmmm a Vmax. My old boss has one of those. Yes very powerful.
Quote from: blue05twin on June 19, 2006, 06:11:59 AM
Get an FZ1 and do a Euro conversion
There's nothing ugly about it and it's an I-4 literbike, that should be enough power for you
You can do it to the older models too not just the 06
To get the Euro parts to the US it would cost around $1200 to do the naked conversion.
Problem with the Bandits and the VMax - crap for handling, comparatively. Ancient suspension.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on June 19, 2006, 11:08:21 AM
Problem with the Bandits and the VMax - crap for handling, comparatively. Ancient suspension.
I'll agree with you on the V-Max, not really a sporting bike as much as a dragster, but I don't know if I'd call the Bandit ancient. They can. and will hang with newer bikes in almost every venue. That all-conquering lump makes up for any perceived lacking. He said he wanted a wicked fast bike, and a warmed over Bandit will do the trick. Then, when maturity comes, work on the suspension, and you've got an even better bike. nsurance on the Bandit should also be very good.
$1200 is worth it :bowdown:
No mild steps for me :icon_lol: I want it to tear my shoulders out of their sockets.
The Z1000 actually looks obtainable! And I've heared good things about its' suspension, and it is only 437lbs!
Also it does 120hp stock.
The Vmax is too much of a porker for me. Being 580lbs. But I have heard good things about the V-Boost system. Each cylinder beathes off TWO carbs :)
Actually being that the Z1000 is my dream bike (and now looks even better now that I know more about it) I may have to focus on that!
Quote from: pantablo on June 18, 2006, 09:01:56 PM
here's a video shot from spectators perspective of a previous trackday:
http://media.putfile.com/streets-32406-pablo-and-greg\
the guy I'm mixing it up with, Greg, is on a first gen bandit 1200. only issue with 1st or 2nd gen bandits is ground clearance when you're at superbike pace on the track.
all the regular guys I ride with I met through the bandit forum at maximum-suzuki.com and they all haul ass.
That looks like a lot of fun. It looks like you had him in the corners but his bike was outmuscling you. I daresay though, your cameraman could use a tripod.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on June 19, 2006, 11:08:21 AM
Problem with the Bandits and the VMax - crap for handling, comparatively. Ancient suspension.
The VMax wasn't amde to handle...yamaha has no problem admitting their sole purpose with the bike was to make something with a nice, relaxed seating position that would go real fast in a real straight line.
The Bandit, though...no man, the Bandits are monsters all over the place. I'm not sure who told you they handle for shaZam!, but I assure you, they were mistaken.