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Main Area => General GS500 Discussion => Topic started by: CirclesCenter on June 24, 2006, 09:01:32 PM

Title: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: CirclesCenter on June 24, 2006, 09:01:32 PM
I know the cause of a high side, losing traction, sliding and then getting it back very very suddenly at a bad angle.  :o

You guys who have saved a highside, limited its' effects or cut it short before it became a high-side please tell me how. A high-side is my only real fear on the bike now (I'm a little scared of some stuff, but not terrified like I am of the mysterious high-side)

:bowdown: To anyone who tells me how, I know there's no 100% method, but I'd like any method that increases my odds of living.

Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: GeeP on June 24, 2006, 09:07:45 PM
Don't let off the rear brake if the rear starts to slide out.  (MSF day 1)   ;)
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: CirclesCenter on June 24, 2006, 09:13:01 PM
Yeah should have taken that, but was poor. (Helmet, or MSF.... Hmmm....)

What about when you're going with the gas, don't chop?
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: rangerbrown on June 24, 2006, 09:29:18 PM
i albut had a high side at deals gap,

came in a 90mph or so (just a guess) and  some crusers were trying to pull out in front of me, i got on the rear more than i needed and i could hear it chatering. like abs. the time between the chattering the bike would stand up, so i got back just enough to get it to chatter again, and then got back off till i was out of the trun and cleaning my pants
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on June 25, 2006, 01:08:31 AM
if you're breaking... you should already be off the throttle.. or else you're not really doing anything. But like alpha said.. if you lock the back tire, keep it locked until you stop. Unless you're going in a perfectly straight line, then you can (theoretically) unlock the rear and continue rolling in a straight line. I say keep it locked. Hell, go to a parking lot and practice locking it up at 10 mph, see how it feels.
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: rangerbrown on June 25, 2006, 10:18:45 AM
no, no no no if you are trail braking stay on the throttle, but not at wot. keep the throttle steady, just use rear brake to slow it, doesnt up set the balance of the bike.

see below link.

http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=78790
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: werase643 on June 25, 2006, 10:34:52 AM
don't out ride your tires
don't use the rear brake
use the rear brake after you leave the pavement
better to ride a rear skid on the grass than wash the front

what about lightning.....aren't you worried about that.....

Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: NWDave on June 25, 2006, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on June 24, 2006, 09:13:01 PM
Yeah should have taken that, but was poor. (Helmet, or MSF.... Hmmm....)

What about when you're going with the gas, don't chop?

MSF here helps alot.. in Oregon when you pass the course you take your card down to the DMV and all tests are waived.  I say the experience is better than a helmet, helmets aren't that expensive.  And in my opinion, I know a few people here will back me on this, you don't need a $500 one.
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: Unnamed on June 25, 2006, 11:25:45 AM
$90 will get you a Z1R- ZRP1 Strike Blade Helmet (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=18895&department=101&Division=1), which isn't the prettiest (or the simplest to remember) but which will protect your head better than any other helmet available (according to Motorcyclist Magazine (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=18895&department=101&Division=1))
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: rangerbrown on June 25, 2006, 11:30:06 AM
i find it hard to belive that a 90$ helment is better than some other higher priced ones.


my next helment is going to cost over 400$, i just cant get the color i want, so it my have to be custom
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: NWDave on June 25, 2006, 04:04:26 PM
I don't, it's called profit.  Isn't it true they all have to pass the DOT test?  Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: TadMC on June 25, 2006, 04:07:48 PM
Hey who had the picture of the guy riding a katana while in a G-string

I liked his.......helmet

no no no, I really do like the plain not finished helmets
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: Dwn4whadever on June 25, 2006, 04:43:55 PM
Quote from: werase643 on June 25, 2006, 10:34:52 AM
what about lightning.....aren't you worried about that.....

Thats so so random.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on June 25, 2006, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: NWDave on June 25, 2006, 04:04:26 PM
I don't, it's called profit.  Isn't it true they all have to pass the DOT test?  Sounds good to me.

No.. it's true that they all have to TELL the DOT that they passed the tests that the DOT mandates. The DOT spot checks a few here and there, but that's it. They leave it to the manufacturers to do the actual testing. Hmm.. testing costs money. And cuts into profits. That's why most people will say you should also look for a Snell certified helmet. Of course, I'm a big believer in my scorpion Exo400... only $150, and I'd take it over a $500 shoei any day..
Title: Re: How do you avoid a high-side?
Post by: CirclesCenter on June 25, 2006, 05:37:38 PM
Yeah the $85 for a helmet made it so I couldn't afford the $300 MSF course.

And you may balk at $85 for a helmet, but XXL helmets have to be special ordered in my town it seems. Of course it is snell rated.