Let me start by saying I have been visitng this site on a regular basis since the purchase of my bike and for whatever reason the gs500 seems to have a great following. I know i probably should refrain from asking this question, but here it goes anyway. Let me start by saying i am not an inexperienced rider, i've ridden dirt bikes and others' bikes atleast five years prior to my first street bike. In April 2006 i found a really good deal on a excellent condition gs500.I didn't want a 250; however i wasn't planning on getting a 600 either; i wanted to play it safe. It was a 2001 Suzuki gs500e with 2,347 miles on the bike. . Thinking this would be a nice step up from my friends' 2002 Ninja 250 i purchased the bike for $1200(nice deal eh?) . I've been riding the bike around and replaced the tires and it works just fine. My question is...The bike is slow, there's no nicer way of putting it! It's a VERY SLOW bike to be exact, making me wonder why seasoned riders would choose a gs500 over other bikes.(I won't even get into suspension problems.) The only reason i can come up with is that it's an extremely cheap bike.
I find myself counting the months to next spring. At which point i will surely be upgrading to atleast a water-cooled 600.
Welcome and I dont find the GS slow at all.
Your picture is a girl...
because its cheap, and a super reliable bike, it'll still be humming along when all the others have died, just about any 250 or 400 is faster than the gs.
if its proformance you wanted then you picked the wrong bike :thumb:
you should have got something that was designed this century and not in the 80s :thumb:
so what's your point????
pssst... its probably because she has a naughty place.
I guess that makes me a TURKEY
Well I got mine BECAUSE it was slow. First street bike and all and I couldn't stand the squarish looks of the ninja 250. Thus, I decided on a fairedly (haha get it? :dunno_white:) nice GS500F.
What's Slow? Is it slower than the EX250? If so, you have some big problems...
Change Spark Plugs?
Clean/Change air filter?
Change fuel filter?
Clean carbs?
Adjust Carbs?
Adjust Valves?
And... What RPM range are you riding in? Less than 5K is useless... The GS comes alive around 7K... And you can ride it all the way to 11K.
It's only 35 HP or so, but a stock GS can do a wheelie (with lots of clutch)... It will do 110+ MPH...
Unless you're 400 LBS or you think fast is FAAAAAAAAAAAST, there's something wrong.
How much does a gs500f cost? If im not mistaking they're slightly pricey. is the front fairing worth another $2000?
I got mine.. a little scratched.. for 2900.
Dealer by me has a new 05 for $4495 with a free jacket and helmet
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 05:07:20 PMHow much does a gs500f cost? If im not mistaking they're slightly pricey. is the front fairing worth another $2000?
The fairing isn't $2000... The "New" is $2000.
I got my '01 GS500 for a song... But, I have to agree that the EX500 and EX250 are uuuuuuugly. :icon_razz:
So... Get some real springs on your '01 and figure out what's wrong with it... Then we can make fun of all the "F" riders. :laugh:
hey hey hey, I'm an F'ing rider.
I love my F model. I also love cheese, my puppy, and long walks on the beach.
Quote from: TragicImage on July 06, 2006, 05:58:11 PMI also love cheese, my puppy, and long walks on the beach.
Please refer to ajgs500 for comments on this post.
Quote from: RVertigo on July 06, 2006, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: TragicImage on July 06, 2006, 05:58:11 PMI also love cheese, my puppy, and long walks on the beach.
Please refer to ajgs500 for comments on this post.
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/catchaj19/icon_ghey.gif)
:thumb:
I got my GS because I'm a n00b and needed a low bike without a lot of power, but can't stand the Ninja. Oh, and it had to be yellow. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: TragicImage on July 06, 2006, 05:58:11 PM
I love my F model. I also love cheese, my puppy, and long walks on the beach.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumb:
Welcome to the board, Mightymax! I got my GS originally because it was the right price (cheap), it looked solid (I was able to beat the h3ll out of it), and....well....I just fell in love with him.... :kiss3: :icon_lol:
slow.... my GS will go 70 no problem
so will my SV
' my GSXR
" my RS125
" my DR350
" my RZ
my RS-50 will only go about 62-65
what do you expect for 8 HP
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
Your picture is a girl...
actuallt that would be 2 girls.....
Quote from: werase643 on July 06, 2006, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
Your picture is a girl...
actuallt that would be 2 girls.....
Good call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 06, 2006, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: werase643 on July 06, 2006, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
Your picture is a girl...
actuallt that would be 2 girls.....
And they're sisters, right?
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500? Not why would a beginner choose a gs500 for their first bike. PS...if you decided to shell out anything near $4000 on a gs500f you seriously got robbed.
BECAUSE THEY ARE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500? Not why would a beginner choose a gs500 for their first bike. PS...if you decided to shell out anything near $4000 on a gs500f you seriously got robbed.
Quite honestly, I don't much care for your tone. First, you implied that because AJ's avatar was of a girl, that she wasn't fit to answer your question. Second, you seem to have a real chip on your shoulder about the GS.
But I'll answer your question: Because not everyone is all about speed, HP, torque, sound, or image. Some people keep the GS as a second bike because it gets better gas mileage than the 600cc supersports. Some people keep the GS because it's all the bike they'll ever need. Light and nimble in the twisties, stable enough for highway commutes, and definitely quick enough for in city driving. I don't care who says the GS is slow.. 0-60 in under 6 seconds is PLENTY quick for me. Don't get to do much over 60 in the city anyway. Some people just like the naked standard bike.. I know I do, that's one of the reasons I chose the GS. Truly experienced riders, like Pantablo (even though he no longer owns a GS) can outride all the squids on their CBR ARR ARRs (inside joke) in the twisties all day long. Going fast on a slow bike is a helluva lot more fun than going slow on a fast bike. No matter how good of a rider you are, or think you are, there's always something the GS can teach you about how to be a better rider.
There, my $.02, take it or leave it.
well,
I can easily lead a ride on a turd GS in front of GSXR/R-1/Mille riders.....until i get to a straight section of road
on the street a GS is a good tool for carving the twisties(with some susp mods)
GS cost....used 1500 ish
R-1/GSXR1K/..../.... 5-10k
GS ins 200/yr
R-1/... 1000-2000 for full cov
if you are young....MORE for the INS
this has been posted to death
it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow
I've been riding 20 years, and I find the GS more than enough for my pleasures of going fast, leading group rides of Triumph 955i's, R1's, R6's, 636's, BMW R1100's, CBR600's. When I started riding motocycles I swore that I would not buy the same bike twice, because I wanted to experience something different each time. I had one in Hawaii, and was so impressed that I had to buy one when I got back home. It's a bike that I can fool around on. I've had bigger bikes, 650 Maxim, 550 Vision, '78 Triumph 750 Bonnieville, FZR400, but I tell you what, out of all of those, I'd still rather have my GS.
I was leading group 1, the FAST group, with those guys behind me, not one said to speed up or slow down (except the Triumph rider, he couldn't keep up with me going downhill). Once in the RAIN, and once without (that was when the Triumph rider spoke up).
Here's why I have the GS.
I liked it. :icon_razz:
No it's not a gsxr thou. Get over it. If I wanted a GSXR I would have bought one.
Speaking of that why buy a 600? With proper throttle control a Thousand is much faster. Why not a Jet engine? Why not a f%$king warp drive?
Oh yeah and when I pass you through the twisties (on the inside) and you see the numbers on the side of my bike "500". That's another reason.
Digging on the inside of someone dragging a knee is fun.
Oh yeah and Mightymax, in before lock/ban AHAHAHAHAH.
But seriously, wonder how many people will look at your 600 with disgust and go, "Wow it's so slow." (i.e. Hayabusa/zx-14 riders)
My 2 cents, and please do with them as some comics have suggested. :thumb:
Scratch,
FZR400
.....
i might go for one of them....they are sweet
big bikes are boring
I have a set of PM wheels waiting for a chassis.....
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500? Not why would a beginner choose a gs500 for their first bike. PS...if you decided to shell out anything near $4000 on a gs500f you seriously got robbed.
It's fun to ride.
It's easy to work on.
It looks good.
It's light.
It's inexpensive to insure.
It's inexpensive to register (older models).
It gets good mileage (~60mpg)
It has a centerstand.
It makes decent power (with proper jetting).
It's comfortable.
It has
no radiator
no coolant
no thermostat
no fan
no water pump
a bulletproof reputation
And the support and dedication of the members of GStwin.
Been riding 24 years.
Quote from: werase643 on July 06, 2006, 09:05:52 PM
Scratch,
FZR400
.....
i might go for one of them....they are sweet
big bikes are boring
I have a set of PM wheels waiting for a chassis.....
If you find a frame, shoehorn either a 550 Vision or an SRX600 motor into it. Or, a GS motor, but the SRX motor will be the easiest.
The suspension was great on the track (for my 125lbs ass), but way too stiff for streetwork (shaZam!, me on my SRX250 could ride circles around an FZR1000).
I already have a DR650SET sitting in a RG-V250SP chassis waiting for me to fab mount plates and a welder to weld in the engine mount plates
I also want to do a XS650 into a FZ600 some day
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not
the bike thats slow...
Thank you Pablo!! +1 :thumb:
Quote from: pantablo on July 06, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not the bike thats slow...
It's like us Mustang ppl: Straight lines are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers.
I don't have the experience and skill yet to experience that on the bike yet, but I'm guessing it holds true for our little bikes as well?
Quote from: stangbaby67 on July 06, 2006, 11:39:05 PM
... but I'm guessing it holds true for our little bikes as well?
yes. witness below a gs500 on the racetrack:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/11895/searspic.jpg)
(edited: http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/displayimage.php?album=lastcomby&cat=0&pos=3&uid=21)
Somethings got to be wrong with your GS, it can pull a wheelie, and there pretty quick up to 70-80mph if you have it set up right, which is about as fast as anyone should be driving on public roads any way. And if you really don't think its fast enough your probably going to be disappointed with a 600cc as well, you should just go all out for the 1000cc that will give you that crap your pants feeling.( P.S don't forget your life insurance ) :cheers:
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 03:59:18 PM
Let me start by saying I have been visitng this site on a regular basis since the purchase of my bike and for whatever reason the gs500 seems to have a great following. I know i probably should refrain from asking this question, but here it goes anyway. Let me start by saying i am not an inexperienced rider, i've ridden dirt bikes and others' bikes atleast five years prior to my first street bike. In April 2006 i found a really good deal on a excellent condition gs500.I didn't want a 250; however i wasn't planning on getting a 600 either; i wanted to play it safe. It was a 2001 Suzuki gs500e with 2,347 miles on the bike. . Thinking this would be a nice step up from my friends' 2002 Ninja 250 i purchased the bike for $1200(nice deal eh?) . I've been riding the bike around and replaced the tires and it works just fine. My question is...The bike is slow, there's no nicer way of putting it! It's a VERY SLOW bike to be exact, making me wonder why seasoned riders would choose a gs500 over other bikes.(I won't even get into suspension problems.) The only reason i can come up with is that it's an extremely cheap bike.
I find myself counting the months to next spring. At which point i will surely be upgrading to atleast a water-cooled 600.
- Welcome to the forum. Glad to hear you believe you got a great deal -- I think $1200 is cheap for a lightly-used 2001.
- It sounds to me you are disappointed with your GS500's performance. You have misinterpreted the GS500's performance -- if stock then it's NOT QUICK. Acceleration is polite, better than the Ninja 250 you tried. I've gone 95 MPH with my 2001 -- seemed PLENTY FAST to me at the time.
- For under $30 you can get a replacement front sprocket -- a 14-Tooth should change your mind on how quickly your bike accelerates. Read the Hahahahahahahahahahahaha - aka Impressions of a 14T sprocket (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=28026.msg298802#msg298802) thread for the happy details.
- Lumpoffire hit most of the very good reasons to own a GS500 -- forgot to mention "Inexpensive to fix", "Lots of aftermarket parts" and several others that I also forget.
- Shift higher on the Tach -- Sounds to many that you're missing the power band. The GS500 is not powered or geared like a dirt bike.
- A word of Advice: Never prejudge anyone -- especially a Woman who owns a GS500.
Quote from: pantablo on July 06, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not the bike thats slow...
good one cause thats true and pantablo is a the right guy to look up to cause im pretty sher if not pass 600 ss guys he could really keep up to them in twisties am i right or wrong pantablo
and if you find his video with is 600rr he can pass a r1 so think again not bike all rider
I bought mine because the price was right and it was a good looking standard. But the last couple times I was riding and whacked the throttle it was silly fun. Sure I could get more speed from a bigger bike. But its like Miatas, MGB's or Triumph Spitfires. Going 9/10's of a vehicle's potential is more fun and challanging then going at 1/10th. Sure I could do 185mph on a Hayabusa but I'd also be road pizza. But playing on the back roads on a light bike is more fun.
And outisde of the front disc brake the parts are cheap, the upgrades are inexpensive, this site gives you one hundred ways to upgrade and personalize your bikes. And the insurance is nothing for it.
But I agree with the others. It seems like your mind was made up before you got here. And that you really wanted to say was that you think the little Ninja 250 was a better bike then our GS's.
Quote from: fodder650 on July 07, 2006, 05:07:42 AM
But I agree with the others. It seems like your mind was made up before you got here. And that you really wanted to say was that you think the little Ninja 250 was a better bike then our GS's.
well said..... im on my second season and i look at the first and my skills has really improved like especially this season ive been laying the bike close to the ground even closer then before... taking twisties smoother then before
now when i ride with one of my friend.... shes got a fzr 400 i have to stay behind her cause i know if i go in front ill lose her in the curves...... witch last year wouldnt of been that bad......
remember the r6 i was talking about in my tread 150/60-17 tires how do they handle well now i can keep up with an almost stock bike all i got is the k&n filter and in twiestes im almost able to pass him now.... with that im verry proud but i dont think of passing him cause im at my limits and i dont have to proove myself...... cause i know what i can and cant do lol
Quote from: pantablo on July 06, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not the bike thats slow...
It's funny 'cause it's true. :laugh:
Ok, seriously though, you got a heck of a deal on that bike........maybe the bike is slow. I'm wondering if you were on the wrong end of the great deal you got. I understand you are an "experienced" rider but do you know anything about maintenance? Maybe it really is your bike and you either need to learn how to wrench on it or take it to someone who does. If the bike checks out ok then it's definitely the rider that is slow.
And don't mess with AJ and her sister. ;)
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
With over 115k miles and 7 years on a couple GS500's and over 340k miles and 22 years total riding experience on 6 bikes, I remain on a GS because it is the most fun bike I've had.
When you reach the point where a GS is no longer fun for you, you have two choices; either buy a faster 600cc or larger sportbike or learn to really ride the GS you have. I'm betting you'll take the softer easier way out, good luck with your 600 next spring.
i'm a beginning, so i don't have much experience, but the main reason for the GS was because the price was right (VERY RIGHT!).
Parts seem plentiful new or used (although eBay has been a disappointment).
The riding position is a good cross between a standard and sport bike...it's a "tweener"...and i like that.
The engine is supposed to be very reliable, carbs are supposed to be robust, and the handling/weight characteristics are supposed to be good for learning.
Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on July 07, 2006, 04:51:17 AM
Quote from: pantablo on July 06, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not the bike thats slow...
good one cause thats true and pantablo is a the right guy to look up to cause im pretty sher if not pass 600 ss guys he could really keep up to them in twisties am i right or wrong pantablo
and if you find his video with is 600rr he can pass a r1 so think again not bike all rider
yeah, when I had the gs500 I used to rock it in the canyons. the tighter it was the easier it was to PASS the 600's and liters...I felt bad for them....okay maybe only a little...They always seemed to be surprised at the stops...
and this is the video of me on my '04 600rr mixing it up with an '04 R1. Both of us are good riders, he was probably a little faster than me but I knew the track better. This was only the 2nd time I ran the track in the reverse configuration like that though.
http://media.putfile.com/powerpantablo_small
I learned to carry more corner speed and to be smooth through the turns from the GS, which I use to my full advantage to keep the R1 within striking distance and to make some good passes (in particular, check out the pass at 6:45).
A good rider can be fast on any bike. The group I usually ride with is a bunch of older (more mature?) riders with tons of experience and one guy comes out sometimes on his Kawasaki Concourse...dragging his saddle bags as he hangs off to make a quick pace through the canyons! he's faster on his superhawk but its pretty impressive. Or the guy on an 80's vintage FZR1000r, but who used to ride a honda nighthawk 700 and no one could keep up with him. he rode chen shin (chen shaZam!) tires and scraped pretty much everything on that bike-things you couldnt imagine touching down! These guys are fast, because they're fast riders not because they have fast bikes...
c its never the bike always riders and by the way pantablo i seen your video and was impressed by your skills grate job!!!!!!
thinking about it if i ever make it to the grand kanyon ill contact you to go ride a lil bit see if i can keep up a lil bit lol
Pablo,
just watched that vid and.... damn :thumb:
nice pass on one wheel at 1:40
did you notice my giving him the "you're number one" salute at around 9:03 after a pass? LOL...
I didn't see that the first time.
nice!
it was one of those great trackdays with a bunch of friends...every time we came back to the pits we were screaming and laughing hysterically inside our helmets....Same happened with this same group of friends when we did the AMA course in Fontana in april. One guy was trying to outbrake me (I am a very late braking rider) and would overshoot the corners outbraking himself into the runoff (he's a good rider and luckily the runoff is all paved so he'd take a crappy line around the corners).
when you're on the track is it all your friends or are there strangers out there too? did you know that guy you were after?
Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on July 07, 2006, 10:08:39 AM
thinking about it if i ever make it to the grand kanyon ill contact you to go ride a lil bit see if i can keep up a lil bit lol
Come on, is it really that hard to hit the "C" key?
lots of strangers too, but on that day I was there with about 5-6 of my regular riding buddies. The other rider on the R1 is a good friend. We trash talked for WEEKS before the trackday(s) about how I'm going to kick his liter ass and he would retort (in a friendly say) about my getting a real man's bike....the video is only the two of us-the rest of our friends were on a different part of the track and we never crossed paths that session.
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500? Not why would a beginner choose a gs500 for their first bike.
People pick bikes (and other vehicles) for a variety of reasons. The fact that there are dozens of different bikes to choose from should be a sign that one bike won't please everyone.
If you think the GS is slow and you don't want to put money into mods, but you have the money to get something faster then do it. Get a Honda CB599 or a Ducati Monster 695 or an SV650 or whatever floats your boat and matches your pocketbook. You should be able to sell your GS for a nice profit.
This thread contains lots of reasons why people with experience would choose to ride a GS500 but those reasons may not be relevant to you.
C.
I think we may have scared Mightymax0319 away.
He was just on a couple of hours ago? :dunno_white:
Quote from: pandy on July 07, 2006, 04:05:16 PM
He was just on a couple of hours ago? :dunno_white:
Maybe he got upset because Pablo was right?
Maybe he should not insinuate that women ride slow. :dunno_white:
Quote from: ajgs500 on July 07, 2006, 04:11:03 PMMaybe he should not insinuate that women ride slow. :dunno_white:
I hate when women ride too fast... :icon_twisted: Err... Uh... :oops:
Where am I? This doesn't look like the farm... :laugh:
Maybe he was a Ninja plant. But I dont want to start anything. I just got started posting and would like to stay on the good side of the mods.
I didn't start this topic to have my riding skill questioned by the entire site, Nor did i start it to start problems
(I find that people who talk condescendingly on the internet tend to suck at life. Dont worry i won't poiunt out specific names)..
I was interested in intelligent conversation about other bikes that may be more suitable. The avenue of altering the bikes gear ratio is the route i will shortly be taking. I know the 14t front can easily be found, but does anyone know of a larger rear-sprocket that can be purchased for the bike. (Or is changing the back sprocket going to be "Custom.")
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/catchaj19/tehflap.gif)
Nice to see that the mods posess a certain ammount of communication skills! or lack there of.
the main reason for a front sprocket....less than half the price of a rear
front 20-25 bucks
rear 50-70
also if you go up more than 3 on the rear....ya need a longer chain
http://www.sprocketspecialists.com/SprocketMain.aspx
GS 500 E 04
GS 500 E 89-03 474 32-74 39 474S 39 504 11-17 16 520 520-110
rears from 32-74 teeth fronts from 11-17 T
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PM
(I find that people who talk condescendingly on the internet tend to suck at life. Dont worry i won't poiunt out specific names)..
*ahem*
Pot,
Kettle here, how the hell ya doin'
Ive always loved nekkid-ish bikes since 91 when I bought a bandit (400).
I like to see big fat frames, the bigger the better, thats why I picked up a GS.
Although its not a big frame, it looks good! There are design flaws as far as looks go that I dont dig, but see'n's how these bikes can be bought for really cheap...it makes it the perfect choice to customize. They dont need alot to look really sweet you know?
As far as power goes, sure they dont have 100 hp.....but when Im gliding through all those twisty turns in the mountains, Im not looking to leave a tire mark on the road....Im just looking to enjoy the ride...(most of time).
But for a new rider, the GS should have plenty of horse power and give you enough power to handle...
And since you have done a bit of riding, theres plenty of things you can do to upgrade your bike to suit your needs perhaps?
...plus these bikes handle really well when the suspension is updated....they can be thrown around/flicked really well.
Quote from: pantablo on July 06, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
No one still has answered my question. Let me restate it: Why would an experienced rider remain on a gs500?
because its not the bike thats slow...
:bowdown:
I am just wondering why would someone come to a site thats dedicated to the GS and say that "The bike is slow, there's no nicer way of putting it! It's a VERY SLOW bike to be exact" and then go on to say "PS...if you decided to shell out anything near $4000 on a gs500f you seriously got robbed." and then say "I was interested in intelligent conversation about other bikes that may be more suitable." I did not want to be the one to say it, but I think you started off on the wrong foot. I still think you need to clean your carbs or something . ( P.S. I spent $4956.32 total with mods on my 05' and every time I woop a cage that costs five to ten times as much I never feel like I got robbed )
Well I definately got a gs so I could come to this site and pick up chicks while being a huge smartass. :thumb:
Quote from: ajgs500 on July 08, 2006, 01:10:10 AM
Well I definately got a gs so I could come to this site and pick up chicks while being a huge smartass. :thumb:
:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PMLet me start by saying I have been visitng this site on a regular basis since the purchase of my bike and for whatever reason the gs500 seems to have a great following. I know i probably should refrain from asking this question, but here it goes anyway. Let me start by saying i am not an inexperienced rider, i've ridden dirt bikes and others' bikes atleast five years prior to my first street bike. In April 2006 i found a really good deal on a excellent condition gs500.I didn't want a 250; however i wasn't planning on getting a 600 either; i wanted to play it safe. It was a 2001 Suzuki gs500e with 2,347 miles on the bike. . Thinking this would be a nice step up from my friends' 2002 Ninja 250 i purchased the bike for $1200(nice deal eh?) . I've been riding the bike around and replaced the tires and it works just fine. My question is...The bike is slow, there's no nicer way of putting it! It's a VERY SLOW bike to be exact, making me wonder why seasoned riders would choose a gs500 over other bikes.(I won't even get into suspension problems.) The only reason i can come up with is that it's an extremely cheap bike.
I find myself counting the months to next spring. At which point i will surely be upgrading to atleast a water-cooled 600.
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PM
I didn't start this topic to have my riding skill questioned by the entire site, Nor did i start it to start problems
(I find that people who talk condescendingly on the internet tend to suck at life. Dont worry i won't poiunt out specific names)..
I was interested in intelligent conversation about other bikes that may be more suitable. The avenue of altering the bikes gear ratio is the route i will shortly be taking. I know the 14t front can easily be found, but does anyone know of a larger rear-sprocket that can be purchased for the bike. (Or is changing the back sprocket going to be "Custom.")
discussion about bikes that may be more suitable for what exactly? I missed that part of your initial post. All I see is you complaining about how slow it is and asking why experienced riders would ride it at all. My post remains, and I wasnt questioning your riding skill. I was stating that there are no slow bikes for experienced riders. They can ride anything and have a good time.
Sounds more like you're looking for straight line acceleration, in which case you wont be happy with a 500. If your gs500 feels slower than the 250 you rode there is definitely something wrong with your bike. If you're looking to keep up with 600's on the straights, well it isnt going to happen with a 500 and you will feel its too slow. Get them into the canyons and the discrepancy in speed is mimimized by rider skill.
The gs has about 37hp at the wheel. Yes its slow. It wont win any drag races, except against other 500's or 250's. There is no skill in riding fast straight.
Why would an experienced rider ride this bike? Because they dont need top shelf suspension dialed in perfectly to enjoy the ride. They dont need the fastest bike to be fast. A fast rider can ride a slow bike fast.
also, pay special attention to the upper left corner to see who the mods and administrators are.
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PMother bikes that may be more suitable.
Srsly? If you want more power, you're gonna need a bigger boat... SV650, CBR600RR, GSXR600R, etc, etc, etc, etc... Something with more than 50 HP (ie EX500) or 34 like my GS. :icon_mrgreen: OK... Nice talking with ya'... Now go clean your carbs, do your valves, change the spark plugs and take it up to at least 8K RPMs.
Quote from: aaronstj on July 07, 2006, 09:27:39 PMQuote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PM(I find that people who talk condescendingly on the internet tend to suck at life. Dont worry i won't poiunt out specific names)..
*ahem*
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
LOL
Bwahahaha.. no need to "poiunt" out specifics. I was being condescending. Maybe even a little pedantic. Know why? Because you came on our board with a chip on your shoulder. As for having your riding style criticized by the whole board.. not even close. These are just the postwhore members.. wait till the REST of the board catches up.
I highly doubt you came looking for intelligent conversation.
Don't let that door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!
If I didn't want a GS500 any more, I'd be looking at a Yamaha YZF-600R, a Kawasaki ZZR600 or a Honda CBR600F4i. (I have looked, but don't have the motivation -- my GS500 and I still like each other too much.)
I'd recommend getting a 14T Front and trying it out before swapping the rear -- worth the shipping & handling fee in my mind. Pantablo is right when he says you may not be happy with the power delivery of the GS500, whatever the gearing. But you'll be hard pressed to get a late-model 600cc sportsbike for anywhere near what you paid.
But as to why experienced riders would want a GS500, I think the community has already answered that question.
...enjoy the bike everyone...time for a cbr
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 08, 2006, 12:01:11 PM
...enjoy the bike everyone...time for a cbr
Enjoy your next life!
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on July 08, 2006, 12:04:28 PM
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 08, 2006, 12:01:11 PM
...enjoy the bike everyone...time for a cbr
Enjoy your next life!
Alpha you need to be nicer.................. NOT!!!!!!! LOL
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 08, 2006, 12:01:11 PM
...enjoy the bike everyone...time for a cbr
Glad we could help settle your mind.
(Another satisfied customer...) :)
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 08, 2006, 12:01:11 PM
...enjoy the bike everyone...time for a cbr
word... I'll give you $1200 for the GS... I wouldn't mind having another
What kind of CBR are you gonna get? Get an '06 600RR, I like those, and when... err if... you crash it, you can sell that to me too
Hey, quit giving the guy a hard time. He's an experienced rider, remember? So experienced that he didn't know what he was getting when he bought the GS.
Oh yeah!!! Silly me. ;) ;)
Quote from: Mightymax0319 on July 07, 2006, 08:53:11 PM
I didn't start this topic to have my riding skill questioned by the entire site, Nor did i start it to start problems
(I find that people who talk condescendingly on the internet tend to suck at life. Dont worry i won't poiunt out specific names)..
I was interested in intelligent conversation about other bikes that may be more suitable. The avenue of altering the bikes gear ratio is the route i will shortly be taking. I know the 14t front can easily be found, but does anyone know of a larger rear-sprocket that can be purchased for the bike. (Or is changing the back sprocket going to be "Custom.")
Hey this is already TF'd right?
WOW!!!!!!! YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!
If you can't pass a super sport on a GS500 either you ride with some incredibly fast people (doubtful, peeps are VERY SLOW) or the bike is not the problem. If you want to pass them without skill or effort, sure go buy an R1, just don't blame the bike. (Reword that until it works right, I'm tired)
Man there are some immature people on here.
Quote from: CirclesCenter on August 27, 2006, 12:27:52 AM
Hey this is already TF'd right?
No, that's why it's still in the general discussion. It would have vanished in the Tard Farm.
Oh thats what i get for porking around in random places at like 2 am. :oops:
I still think that you shouldn't blame the bike.
BTW if you think that's offensive you should see what I was going to say at first :icon_mrgreen: