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Title: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 06:34:11 PM
ok heres the deal,

2004, 14,500 on the clock.  never been done ever.


they all were tite, about .002-.001 clearance.

so heres what i did.


CLY 1 (siting on bike, the left cly)

intake-
stock shim - 2.65
new shim- 2.59 (messured, 2.60 on shim)
new clearance- .004
old clearance- .002

exhust-
stock shim- 2.75
new shim- 2.65
new clearance- .005
was-  less than .003


CLY 2 (right one)

intake-
stock shim- 2.68
new shim- 2.59
new clearance - .004
was- less than .002

exhust-
stock shim- 2.75
new shim- 2.65
new clearance- .004
was less than .002
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 10, 2006, 06:36:14 PM
Have you ever done this before?  How long did it take you?
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 06:39:30 PM
form taking the fairings off to reinstalling them about an hour, this was my first time do it.


and i have to say, the bike runs a hell of a lot better, much less vibrations, and power seems smoother.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 10, 2006, 06:41:15 PM
Did you have all the right tools Kerry talked about on the video?
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 06:42:57 PM
yes all but the magnet that i spent 20 mins looking for and never found. the east coast kit has every thing you need. that is if your on the east coast
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 10, 2006, 06:50:44 PM
Ah...  You were on the list to receive the kit.  That's why you had everything
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 10, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
See, I don't wanna put myself on that list, even though I probably need to.  I don't know WHEN i'll be able to perform the operation, and I don't wanna keep other people waiting.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 07:25:11 PM
dude, take your time and do it. its realy easy. i had the lap top out there to find out the clearances and i found that kerry as installing the valve tool wrong or not far enough over that why it keep poping.

dude, trust me. kerrys walk though makes it childs play.


had i done it, every one would be ready to go to church to clinse there minds of the sins i said.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: LMT on July 10, 2006, 08:07:04 PM
Can you direct me to this Kerry Video for valve adjusting I keep reading about?
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 10, 2006, 08:13:45 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2015554469142545363&q=kerrys+valve
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: runsilent on July 10, 2006, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 06:34:11 PM

they all were tite, about .002-.001 clearance.


Are your clearance figures in inches or mm?
If you mean inches, all were to spec w/o shim change.  If you mean mm you must have decimal point in wrong place?

Spec is .03-.08 mm (.0012-.0031 in)
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: TheFleshRocket on July 10, 2006, 08:56:05 PM
On a related note, how do valve clearances get tighter?  Assuming they were adjusted within spec at the factory, I'd expect that running the engine would wear down the metal a bit and make the clearances looser if anything.  That's my justification for doing valves by the "ear" method--wait until I can hear the valves ticking and then check 'em.  Someone feel free to explain to me if/why this is wrong.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: scratch on July 10, 2006, 09:07:00 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=28056.msg302168#msg302168

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: ops_south on July 10, 2006, 09:16:44 PM
So is the shim removal tool from the video still available from Dennis Kirk?  I looked for it on their website and could not find it.
Very helpful video, by the way.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: Mandres on July 10, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: runsilent on July 10, 2006, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: rangerbrown on July 10, 2006, 06:34:11 PM

they all were tite, about .002-.001 clearance.


Are your clearance figures in inches or mm?
If you mean inches, all were to spec w/o shim change.  If you mean mm you must have decimal point in wrong place?

Spec is .03-.08 mm (.0012-.0031 in)

That's a very good question.  I was assuming he meant metric too but then he mentioned going from a 2.75 shim to a 2.65 shim and recorded a .002 change in measurement.  You might have just adjusted all your valves right out of spec Rangerbrown.

-M
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: Egaeus on July 11, 2006, 09:57:31 AM
There was a "less than" before the clearance.  And I believe that he put one too many zeros after the decimal point.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: The Buddha on July 11, 2006, 10:28:33 AM
Tight but non zero ... WTF ... I set them all there ... thhey tend to go loose in my case, if I can measure it, its fine, if I cant measure it well I might decide its fine anyway ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: Budrick320 on July 11, 2006, 10:57:19 AM
Here I come to the rescue. This is the tool for the valve job. http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/valve_shim_tools/

part number Suzuki 08-0017
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: runsilent on July 11, 2006, 01:09:01 PM
I just bought one of those Motion Pro valve tools and tried it for the first time yesterday.  Didn't work at all for me, I got out the screwdrivers and did it the old fashion way as I had done many times before.  Waste of $20.  Don't need one of those magnets either, tweezers work just fine for changing shims.
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 11, 2006, 01:25:06 PM
ooo, shaZam!


i read the feeler gauge wrong, damn it.

i just went over 300 miles sence then. well

lets see then,

they are now..
.076 to .152
shaZam! shaZam! shaZam! shaZam!. well at least i didnt send the kit off yet
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: runsilent on July 11, 2006, 02:00:18 PM
At least they won't be getting too tight any time soon. 
Title: Re: so, i did my vales today,
Post by: rangerbrown on July 11, 2006, 02:20:53 PM
we that gives me the idea of why i am hearing taping when idling back down coming to a stop.


damn it i know better than this. i got in a rush to do it fast and this is what happens.

i am such a retard, could have been worse. i could have made them tite.



well the bright side i know which ones came from were so all i have to do is swap them back out and re due the measurements.



i wish you all could have seen my face when i read that first post that said i did something wrong\


it was a cold, blank motion less stare.