Hi everyone, i recently ordered a full system off ebay from jardine. Since i know nothing bout wrenching im taking it to a bike shop thats local. The guy told me to just bring in all the stuff and hed only charge me labor. I want to use a dynojet or factory jetkit. I dont know any of the differances between stage I and stage III. I just want as few problems as possible. Also im assuming the k & n filter is compatible with this setup?
Could someone link me to the products that i need please? I dont want to buy the wrong thing and have the bike run like hell.
1st question what year is your bike?
There are two types of K & N filters drop in and lunchbox. Which one are you going with?
Call www.sudco.com and order you jets from them.
Do the work yourself great walk though on this site. I had no exp repairing or working on motorcycels. With a simple tool kit from Sears I was able to install the luchbox filter, install my pipe and do the rejet. Bike runs fine have not had any problems with it what so ever.
With lunchbox filter and wileyco exhaust.
Luchbox filter part number # RU-2970 from http://www.usdieselparts.com/gofetch.cfm
I have an 06. Id really rather have it done by someone who knows what they are doing.
As far as the filters, Thats one of my questions. Which is best for my bike and why?
Jet kits( i want the kit, not just the needles to do myself) is stage I or III better for my bike?
If I were going to have my bike rejetted by a mechanic I would ONLY have it dyno tuned. otherwise, he's doing more guessing and checking than you would, doing it yourself with the support of this site. His guessing multiplied by his labor cost per hour will cost you a LOT of $$$$.
search
I did search and couldnt find a defanite answer for 04-06 with this exhaust. Get off your high horse. To everyone else, thank you
ok i did the search and i found this
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=25594.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24583.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=26610.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=26074.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=25290.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=27060.0
but i quess you searched, i was trying to help.
None of those posts say which dynojet kit is better for an 06 with a jardine exhaust, which was my question.
While we're on the subject of jetting, I'll be rejetting my 2005 soon. I ordered a flange from srinath and will be buying an exhaust to go with it. What I'm wondering is if the stock air filter is THAT restrictive to where I'd require a K&N filter? I really don't want to have to use a K&N air filter since they, well, don't filter much really. Have any of you that rejetted experienced any actual problems in using the stock filter after a rejet and exhaust replacement?
Pire stock air filter with slip on. . . you will need smaller jets. And if you look at the stock air filter box it is very restrictive compared to the K & N pod filter. Not sure of the size's.
Sakuraba if your going to pay for someone to do your jets listen to l3uddha. Call around see who will dyno you bike / install jets.
+1 on if you're gonna pay for rejetting, have it rejetted by a dyno
otherwise, you'll need a stage 3 if you do an lunchbox filter (RU-2970) and an exhaust. With just the exhaust you should be fine with stage 1.
as for the filtering abilities of K&N filters, they filter just fine. I've used them in all my vehicles without a problem for years. The main reason a lunchbox filter (which I would HIGHLY recommend to anyone) is better is because it has far more surface area than a drop in.
I looked at the dynojet site and they only list stage 1 for 04- 05. Im assuming it will work for an 06. But you guys are saying if im dropping the lunchbox in there i need a stage 3 kit. Dyno doesnt have a listing for a stage 3 kit for the new F model gs bikes. What gives?
When we say rejetted by a Dyno we mean take the bike to a shop that has a dyno jet machine used to tune engines. They can play with your jets all day swaping them in and out till they get the right ones. Most dyno tunes use a sensor to read how air / fuel mixture is through your whole powerband to give you the most performance.
Not sure about where you live but the dyno shop here said they have the jets in stock and I just needed to bring my bike in.
Quote from: blue05twin on July 13, 2006, 06:50:33 AM
Pire stock air filter with slip on. . . you will need smaller jets. And if you look at the stock air filter box it is very restrictive compared to the K & N pod filter.
Yeah, well, I was just trying to avoid using a K&N if possible because you might as well not even have a filter at that point. Have you ever tried a rejet like this WITH the stock filter? I'm just curious to know exactly what symptoms you've experienced with a new exhaust and bigger jets with the stock filter. I know the K&N filter is the popular thing to do but I've just never heard of what happens with the stock filter from someone with first hand experience.
I understood what you meant, there is no such shop here. Ive read people say theyve put a stage 3 on the 04-06, but i dont see a listing for one. Thats what i wanted to know
I am at about 1,500 ft elevation. I have a Laser Full system with K&N drop in. I have my mixture screws at 2-1/4 turns out, #20 pilots, #62.5 mid's, #135 mains no shimming of the needle. I am a hair rich across the board. I think 132.5 mains and I would be spot on. Does anybody have a set of 132.5 mains they want to trade for 135,137.5 or 140's????? My local dealer says 132.5's are not available for my bike. :dunno_white: I just hate to pay more for the shipping than the jets cost to got through sudco.
BTW, I had no luck with the dyno jet kit and gave up on it. $94 in the can.
Quote from: Sakuraba on July 13, 2006, 11:36:28 AM
I understood what you meant, there is no such shop here. Ive read people say theyve put a stage 3 on the 04-06, but i dont see a listing for one. Thats what i wanted to know
I know they have a stage 3 for the 04+, I've seen them on eBay. Also, I'm sure there is a shop near you that does it (which would eliminate the need for the jet kit), you just need to ask around, it's not something that will be advertised in your local Valpack.
Quote from: Jason on July 13, 2006, 01:38:19 PM
I am at about 1,500 ft elevation. I have a Laser Full system with K&N drop in. I have my mixture screws at 2-1/4 turns out, #20 pilots, #62.5 mid's, #135 mains no shimming of the needle. I am a hair rich across the board. I think 132.5 mains and I would be spot on. Does anybody have a set of 132.5 mains they want to trade for 135,137.5 or 140's????? My local dealer says 132.5's are not available for my bike. :dunno_white: I just hate to pay more for the shipping than the jets cost to got through sudco.
That's crazy, that shows how much of a difference there is between the drop in and the lunchbox airfilter... with my jetting with stock exhaust and a lunchbox I am just about perfect... why not go buy a RU-2970 for ~$30 shipped, use the 140's, and make even more power? (oh and sorry I don't have any 132.5's)
Quote from: Sakuraba on July 13, 2006, 11:36:28 AM
I understood what you meant, there is no such shop here. Ive read people say theyve put a stage 3 on the 04-06, but i dont see a listing for one. Thats what i wanted to know
Sorry I missunderstood you then. Good luck on getting your bike set up :thumb:
mains 142.5
mid mains 60
pilots 22
lunch box and jardine get a set of them (two of each) and you will be fine
Quote from: phire on July 13, 2006, 10:39:01 AM
Quote from: blue05twin on July 13, 2006, 06:50:33 AM
Pire stock air filter with slip on. . . you will need smaller jets. And if you look at the stock air filter box it is very restrictive compared to the K & N pod filter.
Yeah, well, I was just trying to avoid using a K&N if possible because you might as well not even have a filter at that point. Have you ever tried a rejet like this WITH the stock filter? I'm just curious to know exactly what symptoms you've experienced with a new exhaust and bigger jets with the stock filter. I know the K&N filter is the popular thing to do but I've just never heard of what happens with the stock filter from someone with first hand experience.
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I'll let you know monday the differences as the shop Im getting mine dynoed is doing a run without and with the K&N filter, where not going to worry about dyno jet kits or such as he is just going to drill out the old ones which saves a bit on having to buy new jets at about $12Aus each I'll ask what he went out to but probably wont be much help to the overseas crowds only the Aust riders but it may give you a guide to work from.
I'm pretty confident he'll do a good job they have just had about five GS's go through the shop for a dyno tune and all turned out well told me about one who had ceramic coating put on his standard headers and got about 2-3hp increase alone because it ran much cooler through the header he also does work for quite a few high range racers in the formula extreme series here which is made up of FZ1's, Bandits, z1000's those type of bikes so I let you all know monday weather permitting how it turns out I'll also try to post a film with sound on it but the weather report is not promising. :thumb: :cheers:
Just to let everyone know i put the jardine system on myself. Bee 2 weeks or so now and ive not jetted yet. Runs with no problems. Sounds great also.
No flat spots or loss of bottom end your lucky when I put mine you could ride it but it wasn't happy about it but with the dyno and rejet and filter it now pulls harder then a 14 year old :laugh: :thumb: :cheers: