hey have any of u guys done it on ur bike? my friend says its easy and hell teatch me how next weekend, should i try it?
i have never heard of motorcycle drifting. but sounds like it is going to be a pain in the ass considering all the tires you'll go through
No I haven't
And I think the probablity of injury is much higher than on my list than a new rear tire.
Drifting is for dirt. If you want to drift safely (relatively at least) rock a little 85 into a tight dirt corner with the throttle pegged and a leg down.
Anyways, don't do it on the street. And wear your gear, cause nobody listens to me anyways.
yeah they do it in Nascar.
wha bout that super motard bikes that race on dirt/ tarmac they use those fatty rears and kinda drift. i think there is a model from kawi? like 440 CC?
someone on here owns one.
-ash
he does it on his cbr on the street with the rear brake i think :dunno_white:
Judging from bicycles, if you start a tight turn and jam on the rear brake, it should skid out impressively. You'll probably kill yourself, though.
And seriously, don't hurt yourself, dude. We're all worried about you.
Quote from: nick_villan on July 15, 2006, 12:14:42 AM
he does it on his cbr on the street with the rear brake i think :dunno_white:
Thats called braking.
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Tad dont be sooo ghey.
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u really want to be like me???
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And that made absolutely no sense......
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i can only do it in the wet with the gs. the little gs is a little to heavy and a little to gutless to to it safely,
if you are gunna do it, learn on a dirt bike and get a feel for it before you do it on tarseal, if you gain traction half way through your drift and can't hold the bike down you'll end up high siding, which is never a good look. good luck wear you gear.
Oh i get it now. I had to put my brain in idiot mode. Nah I just dont like squids who make my insurance go up. Ok i lied I do like one squid in particular.
Wow those pictures are confusing the hell out of me. Tad and AJ, if that was your intention, well done. :thumb:
I remember Bob Broussard mentioning how he did a fair bit of flat track (dirt) racing and how learning how to control rear-wheel slide was helpful when racing on tarmac and taking your bike to the limits of its handling. That said, learning to drift on tarmac is probably unwise.
But you can always start here: http://www.fazed.org/video/?id=333
Quote from: sanjay on July 15, 2006, 02:00:09 AM
Wow those pictures are confusing the hell out of me. Tad and AJ, if that was your intention, well done. :thumb:
I remember Bob Broussard mentioning how he did a fair bit of flat track (dirt) racing and how learning how to control rear-wheel slide was helpful when racing on tarmac and taking your bike to the limits of its handling. That said, learning to drift on tarmac is probably unwise.
But you can always start here: http://www.fazed.org/video/?id=333
But then again drifting on tar will give you instant feedback as to weather your drifting or gripping
Quote from: ajgs500 on July 15, 2006, 01:23:33 AM
Oh i get it now. I had to put my brain in idiot mode.
haha priceless
Watch MotoGp and you'll notice that all top riders occasionaly drift big time,
but those kind of riding techniques(including wheelies and stopies) best learned on
dirt bike or supermotard bike since they're built to take some damage and are
cheap to repair,drop some faired sport bike and see how much bits get damaged
(assuming you're in one piece yourself)
http://video.bikepics.com/wmv-416-96/Corserfan-SuperMotard-EsOrmSeason2000-78sec.wmv
(be patient...)
That vid was sweet. :thumb:
I've seen plenty of them drifting in the dirt and ice racing. But I would think on asphalt you wouldn't want to give up the traction on purpose. Thats just begging for a nice lowside and roadrash
You all remember Gary McCoy? Nuff said :)
Quote from: ajgs500 on July 15, 2006, 12:00:10 AM
yeah they do it in Nascar.
you mean drAfting in nascar, dont you.
drifting? how about gary mccoy:
http://www.uponone.com/videos.php?id=2129
or a local 600rr stunter 'drifting': http://www.teamxmx.com/video/teach.wmv
wear your gear,
i do it some times on my dirt road, lean jsut a little and gas it in 2,or 3rd and it will gently swing around. but that dirt.
the road is a lot diffrent. see here as killboy shows you
(http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/55/3348/1024/05123.jpg)
I must be old school, I consider drifting something snow does in windy blizzard. :laugh:
But I've FISH-TAILED a few corners in my days.
Yeah what he said.
aight will do
Er... : go into a corner at a good pace (try 4th gear), hard on the front break (move your body forward helps... ) so that all the weight is on the front, drop two gears quickly and feather the clutch out as you start cornering - the back should step out...
Skid it around with back brake lock is even dumber....
Never tried it myself, that would just be stupid. :flipoff:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8462378466997568582&q=supermoto
TadMC, you'd better watchout for AJ...............she will sneak up behind you................ use her "jackhammer technique" with that strap-on..............and the echoes of your screams will not have yet subsided and she'll be gone in the twinkling of an eye...............I've started wearing a 1/4 inch thick steel plate back "there". Hahahahahahahhahha :)
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.... classic Wilson! :bowdown: :bowdown: :cookoo: :thumb:
Thanks for the plug NiceGuy!! :)
Is 40hp enough to break and control traction on tarmac. I doubt it, yeah its easy with motard/crossers/speedway but they all run on loose surfaces. If you start to loose the backend on a slippy bend you can bring it back in with a quick burst on the throttle if you dont panic and are quick enough but I dont the think the GS has enough power to sustain the drifts the GP riders can manage.
About the only time I've ever lost traction with the GS is when the road is slightly moist, wet, or cover with sand or debrie.
Every now and then I like to take the GS out after it rains, and I approach corners (city streets) very slow in fist gear and just open up the throttle once your half way through it, if the rear starts coming out to far just ease off the gas a little, never hit your breaks.
Quote from: sledge on July 16, 2006, 11:54:41 AM
Is 40hp enough to break and control traction on tarmac. I doubt it..
well it can be done. but not very easly.
if i were to even try it. i would get up to about 40-50, and get into a somewhat hard lean.
then drop into a gear that brings it the rpm up to 7-8k
as i enter the turn, apply rear brake to get it to start skiding, and as it comes around hold the throttle at wide open (or whats needed) and dump the clutch, if the contact patch is small enough it will brake loose and with the tire spining again it will keep it up.
this is just my theory. this can and will induse a high side. in whitch case can destroy the bike and posably kill you.
do at your own risk.
Drifting, or powersliding has nothing to do with braking or dumping the clutch. Speedway riders depend on the technique and the bikes have no brakes, no gears and only use the clutch for starting the race. Its all done at the limit of traction and with careful throttle control. The further into a bend you lean, the less weight there is over the rear wheel and the faster you travel the more centrifugal force increases. This leads to a loss in grip the point of which is dependant on tyre and surface condition. Alternatively you can wind the power on while in a bend until the wheel overcomes traction and brakes free. This is how and why the GP riders get into slides, When it does start to brake free you quickly wind on more power (if there is any left), the wheel spins at a higher speed and gains a small amount of traction. By careful throttle control you can regulate the amount of traction and develop it into a drift. Easy on dirtbike on a loose surface because you break free well before you run out of power but on a road/track or other hard surface which offers plenty of grip it takes lots of power to overcome the grip between the tyre and the road surface and spin the wheel. It also takes huge boll***s between the riders legs. :laugh:
http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/whatis/a9
put oil on tire, and have a drip system?
Meh.
Have you gone down yet? If you haven't then I can see why you'd want to drift.
I've been down. No drifting for me thanx.
Quote from: Yankee Punker on July 15, 2006, 11:21:27 AM
I must be old school, I consider drifting something snow does in windy blizzard. :laugh:
But I've FISH-TAILED a few corners in my days.
Fishtailing and drifting are close, they have the same cause (an overabundance of torque that breaks the rear end loose). A Fishtail is an oscillation: the tail moves to one side, and then swings over to the other side, usually several times (like a fish!) before coming back into line (or spinning you right around yourself). Drifting is a controlled slide: the rear moves to the outside of the turn and powers you into the turn.
Don't let anyone who has fishtailed tell you they were drifting in order to sound cool.
That said, I've drifted AND fishtailed on gravel and wet pavement, but never on dry.
Quote from: pantablo on July 15, 2006, 10:42:39 AM
or a local 600rr stunter 'drifting': http://www.teamxmx.com/video/teach.wmv
Damn. Those guys were actually pretty skilled. Cool stuff.
Quote from: Chuck on July 17, 2006, 05:31:00 AM
Quote from: Yankee Punker on July 15, 2006, 11:21:27 AM
I must be old school, I consider drifting something snow does in windy blizzard. :laugh:
But I've FISH-TAILED a few corners in my days.
Fishtailing and drifting are close, they have the same cause (an overabundance of torque that breaks the rear end loose). A Fishtail is an oscillation: the tail moves to one side, and then swings over to the other side, usually several times (like a fish!) before coming back into line (or spinning you right around yourself). Drifting is a controlled slide: the rear moves to the outside of the turn and powers you into the turn.
Don't let anyone who has fishtailed tell you they were drifting in order to sound cool.
That said, I've drifted AND fishtailed on gravel and wet pavement, but never on dry.
That makes sense, see your never too old to learn something new. So now I can say I've done both, and fishtailing is more for fun, were drifting is more for technique ! :cheers:
http://www.burntheedge.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1906
i cant, but my bodies cbs does it nice
I don't think a single person mentioned that drifting is probably not the best thing to learn how to do, especially since two days ago people were bailing off the back of his f%$king bike. Apparently Nik can do no wrong.
yeah, im kinda temeting to look away from that stuff. im going to stick with drag and practicing my cornering (with out a pasenger for a long as time)