hey does anyone here have any hid kit on their bike?
True HID's for motorcycles, and they have some pic's if you wan't to see what they look like.
I must be tired I forgot the link
http://www.xenonking.com/
an HID kit for a motorcycle is the same as an HID kit for a car, except the car one comes with 2 of everything. I would buy a car kit on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-Xenon-Conversion-Kit-H1-H13-H4-H7-9006-9007-195-99_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ019QQitemZ290006190216QQrdZ1) and split the price with someone else. Each person would get 1 bulb, 1 balast, and 1/2 of the wire harness, and it would only cost you $100. :thumb:
Isn't the stock lamp pretty damn bright anyways?
And what about other riders, I know I flip off every single car I see with HID's cause they forkin blind me.
Quote from: CirclesCenter on July 17, 2006, 12:37:51 PM
Isn't the stock lamp pretty damn bright anyways?
And what about other riders, I know I flip off every single car I see with HID's cause they forkin blind me.
I've wondered about that, a lot of people say that the HIDs blind them, but the real difference is the color of the light and the intensity. If they're angled properly, I'd like to think that they wouldn't blind any more than halogens, unless the whiter color is intrinsically more blinding, then I dunno. :)
Ed
drop in hid kits are not the way.
All they do is provide tons of glare to blind oncoming traffic, and completely waste all of the extra usable light provided by the hid lights.
To properly use an hid bulb, you need a headlight designed to focus and aim the light from an hid bulb. This means either an oem hid projector(best way) or an oem hid reflector (not the best way). Obviously, the gs doesn't come with either, however, with some creativity, there's no reason you couldn't put a projector into the oem headlight.
There's no way to "properly angle" the gs headlight with an hid bulb in it to prevent blinding of on coming traffic. Even pointing at the ground 5 feet in front of the bike, you're still going to be putting off tons of glare.
xenonking.com sells muculloch hid compoents... some of the lowest quality on the market. Oem parts can be had for the same price, and offer much much better life, far more reliable components, and more light output.
I'd be more than happy to go on, but that's a good start
also sells philips, not sure but I do remember hearing that philips also supplies oem for HID's. Right on about the light houseing. Light output is determined by what power bulbs you use. Example would be 4600k's look more yellowish but they have more usuable light. While the 9000K's look more white / blue look brighter but actually have less usable light output.
Not sure if that makes sense but going over 6000K is not good.
Know a person that bought hid's off of ebay and less than a year and a half one of the balast wen't out. Another person bought the philips kit and it's still going ( 3 years now ).
Either way it's your money / your bike do what makes you happy.
phillips does supply oem bulbs... at 4100k
the phillips kit they sell there is just an oem bulb with the shitty ballasts and stuff... not any better
9000k's do not look brighter by any means... a 9000k hid bulb puts out less light than a normal halogen headlight bulb... it's completely obvious.
Light output is a lot more than just the bulb though... it's all about the combo between bulb and the light housing. You can put the exact same bulb in two different housings, and get vastly different light output.
When installing hid's into a vehicle that does not come with them, it is VERY important to use a good housing. It would be very unsafe to put drop ins into a headlight like the gs. You're going to be blinding oncoming traffic... you want other cars to be able to judge where you are, not have to do everything they can to look away.
HID lights need to be made illegal. It doesn't mattery whether they're aimed properly or not, or whether it's a projector headlamp or not. If a car with HID lights is coming up a hill just as I crest, I get it in the face. Same thing if the car crests just as I start up the hill. Or when I'm on the outside of a turn on a 2-lane highway. It's not a good thing to blind the driver of a vehicle that weighs more than you.
The only purpose of HID lights is to allow you to drive faster at night, as most people over drive their headlights. Plus, blue light does nothing to increase contrast sensitivity or apparant brightness. Yellow or white light is a far better choice.
Putting aftermarket hid kits in our stock halogen housing would cause you more problems than its worth. O0
Quote from: GeeP on July 17, 2006, 04:49:40 PM
HID lights need to be made illegal. It doesn't mattery whether they're aimed properly or not, or whether it's a projector headlamp or not. If a car with HID lights is coming up a hill just as I crest, I get it in the face. Same thing if the car crests just as I start up the hill. Or when I'm on the outside of a turn on a 2-lane highway. It's not a good thing to blind the driver of a vehicle that weighs more than you.
The only purpose of HID lights is to allow you to drive faster at night, as most people over drive their headlights. Plus, blue light does nothing to increase contrast sensitivity or apparant brightness. Yellow or white light is a far better choice.
oem hid bulbs are not blue... they're white. They're actually slightly more yellow that sunlight. Blue light is a result of cheap aftermarket bulbs that produce low quality light.(this doesn't include the slight amount of blue at the cut off that you get some some hid projectors... that's a prism effect).
I disagree about the only purpose of them is to allow you to drive faster at night. It makes driving at night much safer as you can see much much more. More of the road is visible, little animals running out into the road are visible sooner, etc. On a lot of cars, the stock halogen lights are just plain pathetic.
Yes, under certain circumstances(like cresting hills), you're going to get a flash of light... it's unavoidable. A good set up will minimize this as much as possible. When using a drop in kit, you're getting that same glare all the time.
Personally, the glare from a properly set up hid bulb is nothing compared to what happens when suv's are allowed on the road with their headlight 5 feet off the ground. Puts the hot spot directly in your face... even worse when you get hid's in them.
wow dint try to cause ww3, i just wanted to know if anyone here has change their headlight, im thinking of getting a blue one. thanks for the ionfo
Quote from: nick_villan on July 17, 2006, 06:13:03 PM
wow dint try to cause ww3, i just wanted to know if anyone here has change their headlight, im thinking of getting a blue one. thanks for the ionfo
a blue bulb is going to have significantly less light output than a proper colored bulb
if you want hid's, do it right
For God's sake, don't get a blue bulb. They work WORSE than a standard yellow halogen bulb. You will have LESS usable light. You will be MORE annoying to cagers. You will be MORE ricey. If you're gonna do it, do it right!
Come on Niceguy your oriental whats wrong with rice? :laugh:
JK I'm oriental too :icon_mrgreen:
Nick if your going to go the HID route stay away from the blue one's. The highest I would go is 5000K. As far as doing it right :dunno_white: I have no idea how you can modify your current houseing to project the HID's correctly maybe saxman know's away.
i was just reading a post and i saw the blue hid and i thought it looked hot
You would think that the stock SV lens would help some. Probably would still cause as much glare as our glass lens. O0
I think you guys are all under a big misconception. HIDs do not blind you. You're probably getting blinded by some noob cake who put bright halogens in his stock headlight housing or dropped in a HID kit in an OEM reflector :nono: :nono:. True HIDs are softer on the eyes and more like natural sunlight. Properly aimed they cutoff at the same level as regular headlights. So..yea...you're wrong guys. Sorry.
P.S. Go here for a motorcycle hid setup. BEWARE you still need to buy a projector. The kit only includes a bulb, a ballast, and an ignitor. You have to buy a decent projector and figure a way to mount it in your headlight assem. You also need to find a place to mount the ballast and the ignitor on the bike. Good luck.
http://www.hiddepot.com/product.php?product_id=33
Quote from: blue05twin on July 17, 2006, 06:48:14 PM
Nick if your going to go the HID route stay away from the blue one's. The highest I would go is 5000K. As far as doing it right :dunno_white: I have no idea how you can modify your current houseing to project the HID's correctly maybe saxman know's away.
projector retrofit... something I do a lot on car lights... can just as easily be done on a motorcycle headlight(seen it done plenty times on some of the ss bikes).
that or you could use one of these sealed beam hid set ups, and make 'em fit
(http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/xe7-1.jpg)
(http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/moto-watermark-5.gif)
Quote from: tussey on July 17, 2006, 07:07:43 PM
I think you guys are all under a big misconception. HIDs do not blind you. You're probably getting blinded by some noob cake who put bright halogens in his stock headlight housing or dropped in a HID kit in an OEM reflector :nono: :nono:. True HIDs are softer on the eyes and more like natural sunlight. Properly aimed they cutoff at the same level as regular headlights. So..yea...you're wrong guys. Sorry.
P.S. Go here for a motorcycle hid setup. BEWARE you still need to buy a projector. The kit only includes a bulb, a ballast, and an ignitor. You have to buy a decent projector and figure a way to mount it in your headlight assem. You also need to find a place to mount the ballast and the ignitor on the bike. Good luck.
http://www.hiddepot.com/product.php?product_id=33
don't go that route... go to ebay, and find someone selling one oem ballast and one oem bulb... can be done for half that price(hell, for that price, you could purchase higher end car headlight that has the projector, bulb, and ballast all in one.)
DO NOT BUY AN HID KIT! They use extremeley low quality components. You can spend the same money OR LESS on oem components, and have it be superior in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
Quote from: tussey on July 17, 2006, 07:07:43 PM
I think you guys are all under a big misconception. HIDs do not blind you. You're probably getting blinded by some noob cake who put bright halogens in his stock headlight housing or dropped in a HID kit in an OEM reflector :nono: :nono:. True HIDs are softer on the eyes and more like natural sunlight. Properly aimed they cutoff at the same level as regular headlights. So..yea...you're wrong guys. Sorry.
P.S. Go here for a motorcycle hid setup. BEWARE you still need to buy a projector. The kit only includes a bulb, a ballast, and an ignitor. You have to buy a decent projector and figure a way to mount it in your headlight assem. You also need to find a place to mount the ballast and the ignitor on the bike. Good luck.
http://www.hiddepot.com/product.php?product_id=33
Mounting the ballast wont be a problem on the F. The issue would be finding a projector that could easily be aimed and retrofitted into the F headlight housing. O0
Quote from: average on July 17, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: tussey on July 17, 2006, 07:07:43 PM
I think you guys are all under a big misconception. HIDs do not blind you. You're probably getting blinded by some noob cake who put bright halogens in his stock headlight housing or dropped in a HID kit in an OEM reflector :nono: :nono:. True HIDs are softer on the eyes and more like natural sunlight. Properly aimed they cutoff at the same level as regular headlights. So..yea...you're wrong guys. Sorry.
P.S. Go here for a motorcycle hid setup. BEWARE you still need to buy a projector. The kit only includes a bulb, a ballast, and an ignitor. You have to buy a decent projector and figure a way to mount it in your headlight assem. You also need to find a place to mount the ballast and the ignitor on the bike. Good luck.
http://www.hiddepot.com/product.php?product_id=33
Mounting the ballast wont be a problem on the F. The issue would be finding a projector that could easily be aimed and retrofitted into the F headlight housing. O0
with the F housing, things wouldn't be very difficult at all. There are plenty of very small projectors that'll work just fine. Plenty easy to mount the projectors up so that they use the stock adjusters too.