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Title: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: domahmegok on July 20, 2006, 04:56:35 AM
My bike stalls when I go from neutral to first gear with the clutch depressed.  This only seems to happen after I back the bike out first. If I don't the bike is fine. Is the clutch cable too loose?
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: ajaxgs on July 20, 2006, 04:59:07 AM
is the kick stand all the way up??????
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: domahmegok on July 20, 2006, 05:00:47 AM
Quote from: ajaxgs on July 20, 2006, 04:59:07 AM
is the kick stand all the way up??????

Yup, I make sure to always kick it up right after I get on the bike.
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: MarkusN on July 20, 2006, 05:10:54 AM
My money still is on the sidestand switch. Does it really stall, or just cut out, as if you had hit the kill switch or the ignition key?
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: domahmegok on July 20, 2006, 05:13:14 AM
Quote from: MarkusN on July 20, 2006, 05:10:54 AM
My money still is on the sidestand switch. Does it really stall, or just cut out, as if you had hit the kill switch or the ignition key?

It feels more like a stall than a cut, I can feel the gears engaging and stalling. But I will WD-40 that kill switch tonight just incase.
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: Admiral Crunch on July 20, 2006, 05:38:29 AM
Could it be that the clutch isn't disengaging fully?  Does it feel like you're meeting resistance when you shift?  Gears not meshing smoothly?  Does the bike want to lurch forward?

If it seems to shift fine, my money is also on the sidestand switch.  It may have a problem.

Pull up the sidestand, shift to first, hold in the clutch, and see if you can start it in first gear.  That might tell us something.
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: werase643 on July 20, 2006, 05:57:16 AM
put bike on center stand
get down and look at the side stand switch in operation

also check the clutch safety switch....but still sounds like a side stand switch
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: domahmegok on July 20, 2006, 06:46:35 AM
Quote from: Admiral Crunch on July 20, 2006, 05:38:29 AM
Could it be that the clutch isn't disengaging fully?  Does it feel like you're meeting resistance when you shift?  Gears not meshing smoothly?  Does the bike want to lurch forward?

If it seems to shift fine, my money is also on the sidestand switch.  It may have a problem.

Pull up the sidestand, shift to first, hold in the clutch, and see if you can start it in first gear.  That might tell us something.

I have no problems starting the bike in gear with sidestand up.
The other day while the bike was on teh center stand, I started it up in neutral and noticed the back wheels starting to spin, does this mean the clutch is too tight?
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: ostwayne on July 20, 2006, 09:16:26 AM
domahmegok, I've had this happen to me a few times as well, only when I'm first starting up the bike after getting out of the garage.
Let me know if you find the cause, it sounds just like what happens to me:
back out
start bike
ready to go, shift down to first from neutral, and DIES
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: MarkusN on July 20, 2006, 10:39:13 AM
QuoteThe other day while the bike was on teh center stand, I started it up in neutral and noticed the back wheels starting to spin, does this mean the clutch is too tight?
No, that's normal. You have a wet clutch, which through oil viscosity transmits a low remaining torque even when completely disengaged. Enough, anway, to drive a completely freewheeling rear wheel.
Title: Re: Bike stalls in first - clutch in
Post by: ukchickenlover on July 20, 2006, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: domahmegok on July 20, 2006, 06:46:35 AM
Quote from: Admiral Crunch on July 20, 2006, 05:38:29 AM
Could it be that the clutch isn't disengaging fully?  Does it feel like you're meeting resistance when you shift?  Gears not meshing smoothly?  Does the bike want to lurch forward?

If it seems to shift fine, my money is also on the sidestand switch.  It may have a problem.

Pull up the sidestand, shift to first, hold in the clutch, and see if you can start it in first gear.  That might tell us something.

I have no problems starting the bike in gear with sidestand up.
The other day while the bike was on teh center stand, I started it up in neutral and noticed the back wheels starting to spin, does this mean the clutch is too tight?

Check the clutch lever free play. You should only be able to pull in the clutch a little before feeling tension. The intial loose bit will be the free play.