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Title: Frame sliders
Post by: leathertuscadero33 on July 25, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
Does anyone know if frame sliders are available for the 2004 GS?  Since I'm a rather new rider I'd like to get this so I can help protect my bike when I drop it or take a fall.  IF they are do you know where I can get them?  THANKS! :thumb:
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 25, 2006, 07:34:50 PM
Long story short:

Yes. Any frame slider will work. However, you will need to cut holes in your stock fairings for the sliders to go through. The sliders will mount to an engine mount. They will protect your fairings in very slow to low speed drops, but not much beyond that. Quite honestly, if you're afraid of messing your fairings up, do what the majority of us do: Take em off, until you feel confident. I specifically bought an '02 GS500 with no fairings so that I could mount Case Guards (which are MUCH better protection than frame sliders, as they actually protect vital components, instead of plastic) and drop my bike all I want, with no problems. (I have too! 4 times! All at a dead standstill, fortunately.. :laugh:)

Long story long:

Do a search for "Frame Sliders". Then do a search for "Case Guards". You'll find anything you ever wanted to know, and quite a bit that you didn't.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 25, 2006, 07:38:12 PM
Long story short:

Yes. Any frame slider will work. However, you will need to cut holes in your stock fairings for the sliders to go through. The sliders will mount to an engine mount. They will protect your fairings in very slow to low speed drops, but not much beyond that. Quite honestly, if you're afraid of messing your fairings up, do what the majority of us do: Take em off, until you feel confident. I specifically bought an '02 GS500 with no fairings so that I could mount Case Guards (which are MUCH better protection than frame sliders, as they actually protect vital components, instead of plastic) and drop my bike all I want, with no problems. (I have too! 4 times! All at a dead standstill, fortunately..  :laugh:)

Long story long:

Do a search for "Frame Sliders". Then do a search for "Case Guards". You'll find anything you ever wanted to know, and quite a bit that you didn't.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 25, 2006, 07:41:59 PM
Uhh... wtf just happened? Has An become my Asian shadow? :laugh:

See, I can be nice!
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on July 25, 2006, 07:45:02 PM
that was trippy... :o
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: annguyen1981 on July 25, 2006, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 25, 2006, 07:41:59 PM
Uhh... wtf just happened? Has An become my Asian shadow? :laugh:

See, I can be nice!
I was gonna do it again as a trial to see if it really is funny, but once is enough. :laugh:

But, yeah.  What niceguysfinishlast said.  +1
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: average on July 25, 2006, 08:11:32 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=28774.msg310610#msg310610
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: average on July 25, 2006, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 23, 2006, 12:47:43 PM
Ehh... like most people have said.. those sliders are more for the event of a low speed drop. They'll protect  your fairings, keep you from getting scratches everywhere, and that's just about it. They're a compromise between looks and protection. If you want maximum protection, you have to bite the bullet, remove the fairings, and add case guards. They're the maximum amount of protection you can have. So you gotta decide which you want. Better looks, or more protection. I'm willing to bet that I know which way you'll go. :laugh:
Negative. They won't protect your fairings because they were never intended to be run with fairings. To run these on an F you would have to cut holes in your fairings. And judging from the length of these, they aren't long enough to stick past the fairing. But go ahead and try,Nick......
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 26, 2006, 04:31:09 AM
Quote from: average on July 25, 2006, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 23, 2006, 12:47:43 PM
Ehh... like most people have said.. those sliders are more for the event of a low speed drop. They'll protect  your fairings, keep you from getting scratches everywhere, and that's just about it. They're a compromise between looks and protection. If you want maximum protection, you have to bite the bullet, remove the fairings, and add case guards. They're the maximum amount of protection you can have. So you gotta decide which you want. Better looks, or more protection. I'm willing to bet that I know which way you'll go. :laugh:
Negative. They won't protect your fairings because they were never intended to be run with fairings. To run these on an F you would have to cut holes in your fairings. And judging from the length of these, they aren't long enough to stick past the fairing. But go ahead and try,Nick......
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(http://www.cmgonline.com/racing/articles/05_ZX7Project/BigP/Moko_frame_sliders_bg.jpg)

(http://www.indysuperbikes.com/Images2/motrax/magic-mush.jpg)

Seems to me they work fine with those faired bikes.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on July 26, 2006, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: average on July 25, 2006, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 23, 2006, 12:47:43 PM
Ehh... like most people have said.. those sliders are more for the event of a low speed drop. They'll protect  your fairings, keep you from getting scratches everywhere, and that's just about it. They're a compromise between looks and protection. If you want maximum protection, you have to bite the bullet, remove the fairings, and add case guards. They're the maximum amount of protection you can have. So you gotta decide which you want. Better looks, or more protection. I'm willing to bet that I know which way you'll go. :laugh:
Negative. They won't protect your fairings because they were never intended to be run with fairings. To run these on an F you would have to cut holes in your fairings. And judging from the length of these, they aren't long enough to stick past the fairing. But go ahead and try,Nick......
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I'm sick of having to keep saying this...
on this site: http://www.rg-racing.com/showproducts/crash_protectors/suzuki_crash_protectors/gs500_crash_protectors/CP0158BL.aspx there are sliders for the F models. they look exactly the same as the unfared version. according to the manufacturer and pics yes, they do stick out of the faring. there is slight trimming required but they stick out as frame sliders should.  :2guns:
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: average on July 26, 2006, 08:32:37 PM
Okay....
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on July 26, 2006, 08:37:12 PM
sorry I edited my post & put the link in: http://www.rg-racing.com/showproducts/crash_protectors/suzuki_crash_protectors/gs500_crash_protectors/CP0158BL.aspx

(http://www.rg-racing.com/images/products/large/img195.jpg)
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: blue05twin on July 27, 2006, 12:12:34 AM
WOW so thats what my bike would look like if I washed it.  :o And thanks for posting that link again l3uddha
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 27, 2006, 04:31:31 AM
Quote from: l3uddha on July 26, 2006, 08:31:55 PM
I'm sick of having to keep saying this...
on this site: http://www.rg-racing.com/showproducts/crash_protectors/suzuki_crash_protectors/gs500_crash_protectors/CP0158BL.aspx there are sliders for the F models. they look exactly the same as the unfared version. according to the manufacturer and pics yes, they do stick out of the faring. there is slight trimming required but they stick out as frame sliders should.  :2guns:

+1
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: jackiei26 on July 27, 2006, 07:35:06 AM
Leather, I know exactly how you feel.  I want to do sliders on my 05 GS500F.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: nick_villan on July 27, 2006, 01:51:50 PM
its just cheaper to buy a new fairing by of ebay by the time you order them from europe and do all the work.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 27, 2006, 01:56:09 PM
That's why you don't order em from europe. You order generic framesliders from ronayers or chaparral or someone, and make em fit. You adapt, modify, survive! :laugh:
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on July 28, 2006, 03:46:48 AM
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: average on July 28, 2006, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 27, 2006, 01:56:09 PM
That's why you don't order em from europe. You order generic framesliders from ronayers or chaparral or someone, and make em fit. You adapt, modify, survive! :laugh:
Do you really want to put substandard part on your bike? I mean this part was meant to pretty much take an impact so you aren't out of $300 for new fairings....
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: blue05twin on July 28, 2006, 05:03:24 PM
Frame slider are not used to protect the fairings they are to protect the frame.  Hence the name  :)

In a slow or 0 speed drop they might protect the fairing but that should be considered a bounus and not expected.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on July 29, 2006, 09:14:11 AM
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on August 05, 2006, 12:07:33 PM
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on August 05, 2006, 02:46:48 PM
they're Rhode Islanders... what more did you expect?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: WREX on August 05, 2006, 03:48:17 PM
I'm in Ontario Canada, and have done a lot of shopping online from the US, Europe and Asia.  I almost always get stuff faster from Europe and Asia, averaging about 1 week to 1.5 weeks to my door, where as the US is usually like 2 weeks sometimes even 3.  These are regular mail comparisons (not courrier).  Once I ordered something from the UK and something from North Dakota on the same day, regular mail for both.  the UK thing was at my door in 4 business days, and the thing from ND, was 3 and a half weeks.   :dunno_white: 
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on August 06, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on August 06, 2006, 10:49:19 AM
lookin gooood!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: sledge on August 06, 2006, 11:06:35 AM
Here in the UK we call them Crash Bobbins and if anyone wants a set. they are available here, just click on the Suzuki list.

http://www.thefastone.co.uk/products.asp?cat=384

Its always been my belief that these things are to protect the engine casings and fairing if the bike goes over and travels on its side by holding the bike off the ground as it moves over the road surface. I doubt if in an serious accident they would save the frame from damage. The fairing and casings will be held off the ground and saved from abrasion damage but if the bike goes down heavy on the slider, the force of the impact will all be concentrated through the fixing bolt and engine casing, and that could be bad news. But in saying that I guess in an accident anything can happen to the bike, and fitting them does give some degree of protection. Another point, here in the UK and dependant on the material they are made from they are banned from use in some race events and track-days as they tend to dig in and damage the surface if the bike does go over.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on August 06, 2006, 01:46:26 PM
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Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: sledge on August 06, 2006, 01:56:05 PM
I have never paid much attention to them but it seems they are well Engineered and thought out and there is more to them than I thought. I think its the metal ones that are banned from some competions as opposed to the composites, a pal of mine competes in Super Motard and I remember him telling me there  he had a scrutineering issue and was forced to take them off before he could compete. I will find out the full story.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Alexj on August 07, 2006, 08:28:10 AM
I just installed this same RG Racing kit on my 2006 GS500F. Like said above, this is a quality kit, delivery was painless, and it was easy to install. It took about 1 hour to do on the F model. If anyone wants to add this type of protection I would recommand this kit.

Alex
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: blue05twin on August 07, 2006, 09:07:41 AM
Hey Alex can you post some pic's of them installed on you bike?
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: jackiei26 on August 07, 2006, 09:16:42 AM
Alex, I'd like to see pics also.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: l3uddha on August 07, 2006, 09:31:29 AM
just for kicks:
here is a link to a thread in a New England forum where a member recently highsided at a NHIS trackday on his 600rr.

http://forums.onedownfiveup.com/index.php?showtopic=42590


about half-way down page 1 are some damage pics after the crash. Note the overall (minimal) damage to the bike and just how much the slider has been ground down from the slide.
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Alexj on August 07, 2006, 12:15:19 PM
I will put them up tonight. I am getting packed up to head to NHIS for a track day on Wednesday.

Alex
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: nick_villan on August 08, 2006, 02:28:33 PM
hey what hapen to them pics
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: annguyen1981 on August 12, 2006, 01:54:14 PM
Quote from: Alexj on August 07, 2006, 08:28:10 AM
I just installed this same RG Racing kit on my 2006 GS500F. Like said above, this is a quality kit, delivery was painless, and it was easy to install. It took about 1 hour to do on the F model. If anyone wants to add this type of protection I would recommand this kit.

Alex

How about some pictures?
Title: Re: Frame sliders
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on August 14, 2006, 05:37:11 PM
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