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Title: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 06:18:21 PM
ok so i put new jets in my carbs, but when it came time to put it all back together, i forgot where all the hoses one, it seems i dont have enought hoses... but i realy need to get the hoses back together quick! so can anyone please help me with this?!! a diagram would be great!!
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: tussey on August 13, 2006, 06:41:46 PM
I'm gonna have to go with search on this one

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?action=search
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: vsboxerboy on August 13, 2006, 06:42:02 PM
(http://www.gstwin.com/images/how_to/fuel%20hose/www_gs500_de_HoseRouting.jpg)
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 06:52:54 PM
thats the fuel hose diagram, need the carb hose diagram!! please help quick  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: vsboxerboy on August 13, 2006, 07:01:28 PM
...well you can see the carbs in the pic.  do you not know where any of the hoses go?  Theres the fuel imput on the bottom, the vaccum line off of the left carb, the drain hose on the back....am I missing anything??
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 07:03:12 PM
i'm talking about the small hoses that go on the small fittings and that one black fitting on one of the small hoses on the right side of carb
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 07:07:57 PM
you know what i'm talking about? the small white fittings/nipples on the carbs   on top    it has 2 white nipples on each carb on top for a small hose, and i'm not sure what hose goes where, i didnt label  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: hmmmnz on August 13, 2006, 07:11:45 PM
that is the diagram,
there are only 3 hoses, the main from the fuel tap, one vent hose from the t connecter between the carbs,
and one vacume hose(the small one)(prime) connected to the carb as well
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/fueltap2.jpg)
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 07:16:49 PM
but what about the small hoses on the right side of the bike (if you sitting on the bike, the right side) that has 2 hoses coming from side of right carburetor that goes to the bottom of right carburetor, where do those go?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: hmmmnz on August 13, 2006, 07:20:50 PM
are you talking about about the little nipple like thing that is on the plastic top cover???
if so there is normally a little rubber cap that sits on them,
there defently any more hoses,
unless youur talking about the battery box drain hose, if not then you must be smoking some good stuff :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: hmmmnz on August 13, 2006, 07:22:31 PM
got a camera there?? take a photo
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 07:23:14 PM
alright, but its dark, brb how do i put the photo in the message?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 07:37:46 PM
how do i add pics to messages on here?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: Mandres on August 13, 2006, 08:16:25 PM
Host the image somewhere like www.photobucket.com and then paste the url.  I'm thinking you must have a California-spec bike because I've never heard of the hoses / attachments you're describing.

-M
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 08:23:03 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/suzukigsf05/Picture9.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/suzukigsf05/Picture4.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/suzukigsf05/Picture3.jpg)

those are the nipple and little hoses i'm talking about, and the first pic.. that little hose comes off that round black thing in the back ground that is right at the end of my finger that is pointing, where does that go to?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: domas on August 13, 2006, 09:51:23 PM
Maybe you detached it from a batery? Else my guess would be vaacum hose. If i am right there should be 2 hoses going from carbs to petcock. Check it.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 09:58:47 PM
those arent the battery hoses trust me, there is only one battery hose, and like 4 of those small hoses, but now sure where they go, they wont reach the petcock, this sucks
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: Mandres on August 13, 2006, 10:47:25 PM
I have no idea what I'm looking at.  It must be part of the filter / recirculation system on Cali model bikes.  Try searching for California model info, I know I've seen a diagram before.

-M
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 10:54:10 PM
i dont know guys, i'm really confused, i dont know what to do, what should i do?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: MarkusN on August 14, 2006, 02:39:22 AM
this should help:
(http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0366/carburetor_model_k4/carburetor_model_k4.bmp)

I'd say your hose is 43. Connecting to the right nipple of both carbs via the T-fitting.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: sanjay on August 14, 2006, 02:48:23 AM
See the second picture for more detail on California model hoses.  There's a link at the bottom to the hose routing page from Kerry's site, as well.

http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Main/HoseRouting
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 12:33:49 PM
ok.. so i can get the bike started, but when i throttle it up, it dies right away, what seems to be the cause of this?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: 3imo on August 14, 2006, 12:45:01 PM
what rpms does it idle at?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 01:00:40 PM
idles at 1200 i'm thinking its the vacume hoses, but cant figure out where they go, i need a vacume hose diagram of some sort. and also i just put the skinnier jets in that srinath mailed me, and i've seen these fatter screws that go into the carb as well he said something about those are for air or something   and some ppl drill them out, but i'm not sure if that could be the problem, but i need a vacume hose diagram
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: LimaXray on August 14, 2006, 01:06:53 PM
as for the hose routing, the only one that is right is the one Markus posted.  The '04+ is different from the previous years in that it has some sort of electronic emissions control system and has 3125698780 more ft of vacuum hose.

I'm not sure exactly what hoses you're talking about, but there should be a hose connected to the white nipple on each carb, which come together at a T, and then goes to the electronic solenoid valve mounted on the bottom of the right carb.  The rest of it is pretty clear in the diagram, except for that one hose that goes off in the distance (77).  That goes to the frame mounted petcock I believe.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 01:18:38 PM
ok, so the 2 hoses that come from the solenoid on the bottom of the right carb, one is on the right carb (white nipple on top of carb) and the other is on the left carb.  but there is a black cylinder thing mounted ahead of the carbs on the right side on a bar and it has a thing hose that has a purple stripe, and there is also a thin hose with  a purple stripe that comes from the frame mounted pet chicken, where do those 2 hoses need to go?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: LimaXray on August 14, 2006, 01:41:11 PM
Look at the diagram MarkusN posted a few replys back... the canister is part 74, the vacuum hose that goes to the petcock is the hose labeled 73-76...

ok, a hose comes off the other nipple of the solenoid (47) and goes to another T, one side of the T goes to that canister, while the other side of that T goes to a check valve (46) and then to yet another T.  One side of that T goes to the vacuum port on the side of the left carb, while the other side of the T goes to the petcock.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 01:50:25 PM
not understanding
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 02:30:59 PM
well i guess i'm going to have to pay a butt load of money to get something this dumb to fix.. cuz i cant figure it out.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: LimaXray on August 14, 2006, 03:26:47 PM
look at this diagram:
(http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0366/carburetor_model_k4/carburetor_model_k4.bmp)


What are you not understanding?  Look at the parts labeled with the numbers I gave you in my previous posts.  Do you see how their assembled in the picture?  You want to make them like that on your bike.  If you're really having that much trouble, then maybe you should have someone look at it just to be safe.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 14, 2006, 10:25:35 PM
should there be just one hose running down to the electronic thing on the bottom of the right carb?  cause i have 2 running off there, and where should they go?
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: LimaXray on August 15, 2006, 03:35:54 AM
there are 2 hoses that come off of it

Here's One hose:
Quote from: LimaXray on August 14, 2006, 01:06:53 PM
...but there should be a hose connected to the white nipple on each carb, which come together at a T, and then goes to the electronic solenoid valve mounted on the bottom of the right carb....

Here's the other:
Quote from: LimaXray on August 14, 2006, 01:41:11 PM
...a hose comes off the other nipple of the solenoid (47) and goes to another T, one side of the T goes to that canister (74), while the other side of that T goes to a check valve (46) and then to yet another T.  One side of that T goes to the vacuum port on the side of the left carb, while the other side of the T goes to the petcock.

That part is not very clear in the diagram, but the hose labeled 43 is the hose that goes to the other nipple on the solenoid.
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: Dwn4whadever on August 15, 2006, 05:34:13 AM
Quote from: makaveli2502 on August 13, 2006, 06:18:21 PM
ok so i put new jets in my carbs, but when it came time to put it all back together, i forgot where all the hoses one, it seems i dont have enought hoses... but i realy need to get the hoses back together quick! so can anyone please help me with this?!! a diagram would be great!!

I did the exact samething :thumb:
Title: Re: ANY ONE WITH CARBURETOR ON THE GS WITH EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEGE.... HELP!!!
Post by: makaveli2502 on August 15, 2006, 09:10:49 AM
whats number 46 in that diagram?, i never saw that thing whatever it is and also where does hose 59 go? thanks everyone for the help so far!