Ok, I finally got around to taking pictures of everything, and I'm realizing the repairs are going to be a little tougher than I originally thought.
First, the forks:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Forks1.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Forks2.jpg)
Yep, they're pretty damn tweaked. I'm sure there's a writeup on here somewhere about how to remove/replace them. I'll do a search when I get closer to replacing them, but if someone wants to give an abbreviated version, I'd appreciate that.
Secondly, the bars:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Brake.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Clutch.jpg)
As you can see, there's just minor scrapes on the master cylinder, and the turn signal/headlight assembly is kinda scratched, but I can deal with that. Didn't even break the clutch/brake levers off, lucky, eh? :laugh: The bars themselves are trash. I'm thinking I'll just go ahead and upgrade to SM2 bars (anyone got a set they wanna let go cheap to a broke college kid? :laugh:). I was going to remove them today, but didn't have the energy. Again, I'm sure there's a writeup on getting the controls off/removing the bars, and I'll search for it later, but if someone wants to post a quick how-to, that'd be much appreciated too.
Then, the fender:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Fender.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Headers.jpg)
No biggie. I can keep this one, or replace it, whatever it's cosmetic.
Finally, the part that really concerns me, the tail:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Tail1.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Tail2.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Tail3.jpg)
As you can see in the last picture, the bracket/piece/whatever that holds the grab handle is bent all to shaZam!. Normally, I'd say no biggie, take it off, pound it back into shape, or buy a new one, and put it back on. BUT.. it's welded on. I have no knowledge at all about welding. I have friends who can weld. But they're all in Florida. I know that the tail plastics mount there. BUT, those mounts snapped off the tail plastics when the grab handle bent anyway. So can anyone give me a good reason why I can't just cut that piece off with an angle grinder, and figure some other way to ghetto rig brackets for the tail plastics? I mean.. I don't really NEED a grab bar, as I don't carry passengers. Who'd be dumb enough to ride with me now? :laugh:
It's the last and next to last photos that make me think the bike did a flip behind me. I can't conceive of any other way that the grab handle would have been forced down like that. Also, the windscreen:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Screen.jpg)
Has scratches on it, and was originally forced down, so that it laid parallel to the ground, instead of perpendicular. Plus, the scratches on the speedo bezel:
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/Bezel.jpg)
Can that be removed and replaced, without changing the whole guage assembly?
I started her today though, she started right up, which was great, so at least I know the engine guards did their job.
So, thoughts, advice, comments, anything?
DAMN. :o
Quote from: Dwn4whadever on August 25, 2006, 12:27:03 PM
DAMN. :o
Haha, it's not as bad as it looks. I think. :laugh: I'm in great shape, considering all the bad crap that could have happened.
x
removing forks is very simple.
1) Place the bike on the center stand.
2) Either load the back of the bike with a bag of potatoes to lift the front wheel of the ground, or place 2x4 under the pipes by the oil pan and jack the fron with a hydrolic jack.
3) Remove the fender
4) Remove the front wheel. I don't remeber how it goes exactly, but it is straight forward. Just keep removing bolts until the axel comes off.
5) loosen the clamp bolts that hold the forks both at the top triple clamp and bottom.
6) Slide down fork tubes.
Forks - completely disassemble; see if springs are bent, if so junk; ship or take legs to be straightened.
Handlebars - all you need is new barends.
Fender - leave it.
melted fender plastic on exhaust & crossover pipe - see if you can peel it off when it's cold; if that doesn't work, hair dryer and a scraper. Maybe it'll burn off.
Grab handle - take it to a frame straightener. Have them tap new holes, because the old ones are not going to line up again, or be useable.
Quote from: scratch on August 25, 2006, 12:38:16 PM
Forks - completely disassemble; see if springs are bent, if so junk; ship or take legs to be straightened.
Handlebars - all you need is new barends.
Fender - leave it.
melted fender plastic on exhaust & crossover pipe - see if you can peel it off when it's cold; if that doesn't work, hair dryer and a scraper. Maybe it'll brun off.
Grab handle - take it to a frame straightener. Have them tap new holes, because the old ones are not going to line up again, or be useable.
I'm getting new forks from someone here, hopefully.
Fender- Yeah, I'll probably leave it, but if I can get one cheap, I might as well replace it
Melted plastic- I'm scraping, and it's helping.. I figure the rest will burn off
Bars - The bars are trash. It's hard to tell in the photos, but they're definitely bent.
Handle - a frame straightener, eh? What would I look under in the phone book?
Yeah your right it could have been worst. You could have been dead. But that still beside the point. You got some money to shell out to get this stuff. Have you made a list of what you are going to have to replace or does it hurt to much. I hope you have paid your tuition already. Man you are going to be eat ramen noodles for awhile. :laugh:. By the way if there waa a cop there that would have seen you run the light or what every you did, why look for him as you cross the intersection. What were you planning on running?
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on August 25, 2006, 12:22:49 PM
The forks're pretty damn tweaked. I'm sure there's a writeup on here somewhere about how to remove/replace them. I'll do a search when I get closer to replacing them, but if someone wants to give an abbreviated version, I'd appreciate that.
Take off the wheel, take off the fender, take off the fork brace, loosen the 4 pinch bolts (one of which is the bolt labeled 7 that's right behind the turn signal in the first picture), and slide them out the bottom.
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Secondly, the bars:
As you can see, there's just minor scrapes on the master cylinder, and the turn signal/headlight assembly is kinda scratched, but I can deal with that. Didn't even break the clutch/brake levers off, lucky, eh? :laugh: The bars themselves are trash. I'm thinking I'll just go ahead and upgrade to SM2 bars (anyone got a set they wanna let go cheap to a broke college kid? :laugh:). I was going to remove them today, but didn't have the energy. Again, I'm sure there's a writeup on getting the controls off/removing the bars, and I'll search for it later, but if someone wants to post a quick how-to, that'd be much appreciated too.
There are a couple of screws holding the controls on. Take them out and they'll fall apart and come off. There are 4 hex-head bolts holding the bars on (possibly under plastic caps). Take them out and the bars come off.
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Then, the fender:
It's off now, try and sand it or something to make it look better and rattlecan it if you're on a strict budget
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As you can see in the last picture, the bracket/piece/whatever that holds the grab handle is bent all to shaZam!. Normally, I'd say no biggie, take it off, pound it back into shape, or buy a new one, and put it back on. BUT.. it's welded on. I have no knowledge at all about welding. I have friends who can weld. But they're all in Florida. I know that the tail plastics mount there. BUT, those mounts snapped off the tail plastics when the grab handle bent anyway. So can anyone give me a good reason why I can't just cut that piece off with an angle grinder, and figure some other way to ghetto rig brackets for the tail plastics? I mean.. I don't really NEED a grab bar, as I don't carry passengers. Who'd be dumb enough to ride with me now? :laugh:
It's the last and next to last photos that make me think the bike did a flip behind me. I can't conceive of any other way that the grab handle would have been forced down like that.
I'd say get a hammer and see if you can knock it into an acceptable shape. If not, it doesn't look too important. I doubt you can get a new one. IF the tail plastics can still hold together, they should be fine. You can always use zip ties.... That, or get a pro.
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Also, the windscreen:
Has scratches on it, and was originally forced down, so that it laid parallel to the ground, instead of perpendicular. Plus, the scratches on the speedo bezel:
Can that be removed and replaced, without changing the whole guage assembly?
I started her today though, she started right up, which was great, so at least I know the engine guards did their job.
So, thoughts, advice, comments, anything?
It would probably be cheaper to replace the windscreen than to try and take out the scratches. You're screwed with the bezel if it's like my 99. It's all one solid piece.
My son did the same front end damage to his. I took the forks, and rotated the tops 180 degrees in the triple clamps. Then it was raked kind of like a chopper. It rode OK, but we replaced them anyway. Couldn't find a used front fender, and bought a new one from dealer for around $130. The plastic will burn off eventually.
Somewhere, somehow your bike deffinately was upside down... Nice work!
You'll have it all fixed up in no time my friend. We'll all help as much as we can. Everyone here likes you...so start begging in the FS section.
-Turd.
Simple tricks to fix scratched windshields (THEY WILL NOT LOOK 100% but will look better than nasty scratches!)
Nick talk to Sarah about her windshield and the gravel she ate a while back.
She had some luck, soaking and cleaning the windshield to remove all dirt, there can't be any dirt or nastyness in there..or oil...
sand off the rough spots with a fine grit paper
Clean again
Get super clear hard plastic epoxy and put it in the scratches, smooth it over flush with the screen and let dry, then use a good plastic polish and buff it out...alot...
At least you won't have huuuge scratches and its cheaper than buying a new one, plus you can do it inside..while watching tv and drinking beer :cheers:
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 26, 2006, 07:28:06 AM
Somewhere, somehow your bike deffinately was upside down... Nice work!
Haha, thanks. I wish I could remember actually seeing the bike flip.. probably woulda been kinda neat.
'Strami, I'm not even worried about the scratches in the windshield. Right now, cosmetics are the least of my worries. I just want the bike up and running.
Until you get the SM bars, drop $17 or so and get some cheapy Bikemaster bars to tide you over until you have the money for the SM2s. If you can't find any let me know, I'll sell you my spare pair after my track day for cheap.
How long can you wait for bars? Because I like you (and because of our checkered past...hehehe) I'll send you my stock bars next weekend FOR FREE. I'll even pay shipping.
*EDIT* actually, if all goes well, I can ship them out early this week. I'm *hopefully* going to get my clip-ons installed tomorrow evening.
-Turd.
I just got 0wned on a deal. Damn Turd, you're a generous guy.
Haha, damn, you ARE a generous guy. I can wait awhile. I'm still waiting on a return PM from a guy about some used forks for (hopefully) cheap. PM me a paypal addy so that I can at least pay for shipping, and I'll PM you my shipping addy.
Thanks guys!
NO.
These bars are free dammit. PM me your address. Thats an order.
-Turd.
You are a nice guy Turd.
I would definately heat up and straiten the subframe. YOu may not use the grab bar, but someday it may come in handy and if you ever want to sell it, I would have all of the parts of the bike there. Something that simple can loose you lots of value.
When I low sided, the bike didn't stop at that. The tires caught and the bik ended up flipping. the grab bar instead of bent down was bent up. It fixed like new. The bezel is replacable I believe.
-Anti 8)
Quote from: The Antibody on August 26, 2006, 05:00:04 PM
You are a nice guy Turd.
I would definately heat up and straiten the subframe. YOu may not use the grab bar, but someday it may come in handy and if you ever want to sell it, I would have all of the parts of the bike there. Something that simple can loose you lots of value.
When I low sided, the bike didn't stop at that. The tires caught and the bik ended up flipping. the grab bar instead of bent down was bent up. It fixed like new. The bezel is replacable I believe.
-Anti 8)
So did you heat up and re-bend the subframe yourself? Or take it somewhere?
fully covered? if so its totaled.
if not well its a lot of work but can be fixed.
No, he only had liability.
-Turd.
Offer still stands if you need tools, place to work on your bike or if you just need some help turning nuts and bolts.
For fixing your rear subframe check in the phone book under collision repair. Auto shops will be able to do it also.
Glad you wasn't hurt worse than you were.
What's up with the wiring in the back? It's like uber messed with
If you just want to get the bike on the road, you can probably bend the subframe back yourself so it will be 'good enough.' If you want the tail plastics to line up and everything to be nice and straight, bring it to a body shop.
You *could* get an entire GSXR front end with forks, clipons, controls, rotors, calipers, wheel, fender, and digital gauges on eBay. That would take care of most of your front end damage. Someone would need to turn you a new stem, but you're a college boy, I'm sure your school has a lathe that you could get someone to machine you a stem on. Then send me the digital gauges, I'll get them to work with the GS, and send them back to you. Yeah, it would be super expensive and probably a dumb investment for a GS, but it would be pretty freaking nifty!
The wiring in the back: The bolts that hold my license plate on have LEDs built into them, to shine onto the plate. The PO used quick connectors to splice in the lights. Which is good. Until they touch each other. So I wrapped them in electrical tape.