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Title: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 02:45:26 PM
My pretty blue bike is broken....yes I wrecked, yes I'm ok...pictures will follow....my bars and tank are pretty much destroyed..i think I can fix my tank and I have extra paint from the first time I painted it..


So what happened? I was following FreeWheelBurner (Jeff) we'd only gone 4.2 miles  :laugh: twistie road no corner signs...none...corner came up too fast, I almost recovered, hit a lip and some gravel and flung myself into a field...I think..idk Jeff will have to comment lol... I promise pictures as soon as i pop some tylenol...

heres what i remember..the corner came up really fast, it was down hill, there were no signs or anything, i saw Jeff like lock on his brakes and he almost wrecked too, there was car across the yellow lines going the opposite way, i panicked when i saw the car, moved over and couldnt make the corner, my rear tire broke lose and when i got it to grip again i was right up, not laid over, and then my front started to wobble from side to side and i was like f%$k..this is gonna be worse if i try to save it so i just let it go into the field  and i landed in a ditch further down in the field a good 10-15 feet from my bike  basically i  remember feeling the gravel under the tire as it went down seeing grass then being dizzy cause i was flipping through the air

The corner: (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crashcorner.jpg) I ended up where I was standing when I took this...
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: PapaFox on August 30, 2006, 02:49:17 PM
Glad you came out of it safe, bummer 'bout the bike though
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Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on August 30, 2006, 03:38:50 PM
NO MORE CRASHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad you're ok though!
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: scratch on August 30, 2006, 03:51:02 PM
Glad you're allright!  Aw, man, sorry to hear about the bike, though.  Never give up!  Look were you want to go...etc.  It looks to be an off-camber turn with lots of debris strewn about by cars.  That's a mild downhill, but yep, gravity is against ya.  Were you on the brakes at all?
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
the reason i gave up is because there was a telephone poll and a steel pole about 10 feet apart, i went inbetween them, instead of hitting the pole, I was really close to it.. I was on the brakes but I started to lock the wheel so I went easy on them..I never hit pavement only grass and dirt, I went down on the left side, not the right, so I flipped around sideways I guess ?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: scratch on August 30, 2006, 04:40:59 PM
Good judgement!  :thumb:  Hope you feel better, heal up.  Get some rest, drink water; no beer.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 05:17:01 PM
If I did something wrong I really want someone to tell me so I don't f%$k up again  :laugh: 

Pics!

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash1.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash2.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash3.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash4.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash5.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crash6.jpg)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Mr.7 on August 30, 2006, 05:38:58 PM
It's not a total loss. With some time and money, you'll be back on the road in no time!  :thumb: But that is how it is with everything isn't it.  :dunno_white: I just hope I'm not next  :o
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: annguyen1981 on August 30, 2006, 05:53:06 PM
I'm so glad you're ok.  Good judgement too BTW.

Rest up and take it easy.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: RVertigo on August 30, 2006, 06:13:36 PM
RRRRR!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

That could have been soooooooooooo bad.  You're f%$king lucky as shaZam! you didn't go under someone tires or break your spine on a phone pole.  GODDAMN!

How did the corner sneak up on you?  From the pic it looks like a 30 MPH corner...  Maybe a 25 MPH corner...  What's the speed limit on the road and how fast were you going?



f%$k!  I'm gonna buy a cruiser and hang out with old people...   :cry:


I didn't see you mention any injuries...  I'm assuming you were in full gear and you're just a little banged up. :cry:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: annguyen1981 on August 30, 2006, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on August 30, 2006, 06:13:36 PM
a little banged up.


You're pregnant?!?!?!  I though a man and a woman...  I mean...  Don't you have to be with a ...

oh... never mind

:laugh:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 07:04:58 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on August 30, 2006, 06:13:36 PM
How did the corner sneak up on you? From the pic it looks like a 30 MPH corner... Maybe a 25 MPH corner... What's the speed limit on the road and how fast were you going?


I didn't see you mention any injuries... I'm assuming you were in full gear and you're just a little banged up. :cry:

I know how lucky I am..I kept thinking about that all day...someone is definitely watching out for me...

That corner wasn't marked, I knew there was a corner but I didn't know how sharp it was and I should have slowed way down..that was very very bad judgement on my account....normally there are corner warnings/signs speed limit signs and there was nothing on this road..not even a speed limit sign so in NY that means they're 55mph roads...it WAS my fault I'm not trying to blame it on anything other than that to complicate things there was this car that wasn't on the right side of the lines..it almost took out Jeff and barely got over the yellow lines before I passed it

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Onlypastrana199/crashmockup.jpg)

I was wearing gear:

Scorpion helmet has one little scratch, I don't think I even hit my head and if I did, I didn't really feel it but I'll be getting a new one

Fieldsheer Breeze Mesh women's jacket, I hit my elbow slid for while, I have some grass stains and dirt, help up good

AlpineStar Octane Perf'd Leather Gloves some dirt on the the palms not even a scuff

Harley Boots, over the ankle no issues there

I have a bruise on my knee I think from the tank  :dunno_white: my neck is sore like when you get off a roller coaster but not neck injury sore, my moms a nurse and checked me out I'm good to go just really sore...

And I'm not pregnant but I thought I was the other day when I ate a jar of pickles and then peanutbutter out of the jar with a spoon..

Any other questions?
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Matty B 500 on August 30, 2006, 07:31:16 PM
according to that picture ... u were in the wrong lane?
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 07:32:26 PM
 :laugh: yeah after the car passed me and i lost it in the corner
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: RedShift on August 30, 2006, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on August 30, 2006, 07:04:58 PM
... And I'm not pregnant but I thought I was the other day when I ate a jar of pickles and then peanutbutter out of the jar with a spoon..

Any other questions?

Smooth or Crunchy peanutbutter?  (I'm partial to Crunchy myself.)

Appreciate the explanation and sorry your riding your GS is haulted for a while.  Glad you came out of it more shaken than hurt.

As far as what you did wrong, it sounds like you just came in too hot for the angle and style of corner.  An off-camber, downhill road is rather tricky.  It's easy to see loss of traction easpecially if braking while leaned over. The no-no is braking in a curve -- gotta scrub off speed before the turn, or pressing harder during it. Remember it's Slow (to a suitable entry speed) - Look - Press (to initiate lean) - Roll (to maintain stability).

May both your and your bike heal quickly.  :)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: werase643 on August 30, 2006, 07:57:42 PM
good crash....you walked away...much better than 5-6 days in ICU on a morphine drip....mmmmm, morphine, drool :icon_lol:
just push this button when it hurts....

if you get h-bars and a mirror(and a wash)....you can ride the bike as is.....just not as pretty

ugly bikes need luvin too
(just ask Srinath..... :icon_mrgreen:)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: blue05twin on August 30, 2006, 09:30:24 PM
Wow, really sorry to read about your accident, hope your soreness goes away.  Bike can be fixed really glad you were not hurt worse than you are.

AJ would really be surprised if you were pregnant  :laugh:  on that note my wife might be  :o
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: pantablo on August 30, 2006, 09:50:01 PM
ah man. that sucks. good thing you were thinking clearly-at least AFTER misjudging the corner entry. Looks like (based on total guessing out my ass since I wasnt there...) you could have target fixated, which prevented you from looking through the turn..or you got on the brakes too hard leaned over...I dont know. I'm guessing. Just glad you're alright and the bike isnt totalled...

hope you get back on the road quickly.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: jjr_vw on August 30, 2006, 10:43:26 PM
Glad you are ok, sounds like you rationalized every little buck/jolt from the GS.... I hope I am so collected when it is my time to crash again.... first (only) time I lowsided there was gravel involved in a similar turn (downhill, blind turn) so I didn't even have a chance to think.... only slide.

Slide, slide... to the right, to the right, now dip baby dip  O0
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: ajaxgs on August 31, 2006, 05:12:01 AM
glad you are ok  :thumb:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: natedawg120 on August 31, 2006, 06:30:25 AM
man that sucks and right after the paint job too.  Really glad to see that you are alright and werent' seriously injured.  Get to feeling better, slap some bars and a mirror, cover up the rust with the aformentioned paint and ride as is.  Then just get a new tank off ebay or from a junk yard if you have them around and paint it to match.  Are you planning on taking the dents out of the tank or just covering them to make her pretty again?
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 06:36:35 AM
After a closer inspection last night, my subframe is pretty tweaked, I'm gonna try to straighten it but we'll see how that goes I might end up with more mods than I anticipated. The mounting tabs are broken off the side plastic, but the tank, plastics, fender and chainguard will go back to my Uncle for his opinion since hes the bodywork/painter. I'll prolly send the headlight up too and frame for a white coat..most of the things that are broken (aside from the paint and I have more than enough left over from last time) I intended on working on this winter anyway.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: natedawg120 on August 31, 2006, 06:44:35 AM
that sounds like a plan, its great to see that you are taking it alright :thumb:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 09:43:52 AM
Well I finally caught up with this post. From what I saw in my mirror,she locked up the back break right away. I saw it smoke then she hit the gravel and got squirrely then maybe a highside and some cartwheeling. She almost pulled it out. I posted the picture I took in the Gallery under bike pics. i couldn't get it to post here. It clearly shows the skid mark. The pole is just to her left out of the pic and by my judgement missed it by no more than 2 feet. Thank God! Don't even like to think about this but I thought it might help. She did just fine. Never tried to lean it once she locked up which saved her alot of pain.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 09:52:32 AM
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/15337/normal_P8310003.JPG)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 10:18:01 AM
There you go. I think my pop up blocker is messing up my deal here. Aint she cute!..... :laugh:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: jackiei26 on August 31, 2006, 10:29:51 AM
OMG - A special, well-admired and well-loved person from heaven was watching over you!!![/b]
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on August 31, 2006, 11:03:20 AM
So can we see pics of your bruises?

:laugh:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 11:23:07 AM
Lissa, I just got done talking to the guy from the State and he said that we should have called the cops so there was a report. Never thought of that since I hate the cops. I may go back to Middleburg tomorrow. If I do I will get some pics of the lack of signage and more of the scene. He said you have a legitmate claim but to not comtact the County until we have our proof because they will just go and put up signs and say they were there. I amy need your address and such for a Police report tomorrow.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 11:29:38 AM
lol damn i was thinking about that today too...maybe video of the road? hard to edit out signs so they cant say we photochopped anything
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: zukiGS500 on August 31, 2006, 11:37:24 AM
Are you making the "honey i crashed but im ok phone call" in that picture
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 11:42:08 AM
 :laugh: actually I think my exact words were "baby I crashed but im ok"
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 11:46:13 AM
I will do what I can tomorrow I have a vid camera. I will talk to the cops and see what they say. I'm all for stickin it to them. I can always call you when I'm there with the cop.
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 11:47:51 AM
ok cool. Thanks Jeff I really appreciate this
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 11:49:33 AM
Anything for you Pastrami... :cookoo:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: RVertigo on August 31, 2006, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 09:52:32 AM(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/15337/normal_P8310003.JPG)
Oh...  I can't be mad at you any more...  So cute in that little jacket...  I just wanna pinch your cheeks. :laugh:
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: The Antibody on August 31, 2006, 12:45:48 PM
Whew, glad to see you are ok. That is very close to my crash in spring of 2003. It was a hard right that wasn't marked. It had a decreasing radious and gravel. It's like I was set up for failure. Looks earilly similar. My bike looked alot like your, but a bit worse too. Mine bounced end over end. Sometimes it feels good to only be sore (when your not hurt).

  -Anti  8)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on August 31, 2006, 12:48:47 PM
TRUE DAT!!!!!
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: TarzanBoy on August 31, 2006, 05:44:43 PM
I dont' know how long you've been riding or anything... and I've never been in the situation you were in (rogue car across double line).

Do you know how to hang off?  The only thing I can think of that might have helped might have been to use some dirtbike/racer technique:
- Shifted your weight way forward to the front-right forward corner of your bike and  put a LOT of weight into the turn by shifting your body as close to the (direction of) the front right blinker as possible.

Shifting your weight like that makes entering hard corners easier, and hanging off (if you know how) will maximize your rate-of-turn at whatever lean-angle the bike is at.   It is harder to make adjustments from that position... but it reduces the amount of 'bucking' a highside delivers to you a little bit.

Someone who knows more about riding than me might be able to elaborate. 

Also... it might have just been saferr to run off into the grass than potentially run wide and hit an oncoming car!
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Kimby on August 31, 2006, 05:56:26 PM
I'm also glad your ok .... maybe Rich was helpin you out? :)
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on August 31, 2006, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Kimby on August 31, 2006, 05:56:26 PM
I'm also glad your ok .... maybe Rich was helpin you out? :)

Rich was kicking her ass for mocking me for wrecking! :laugh:

Just messin 'strami..
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on August 31, 2006, 06:10:46 PM
I've been riding on the road for 4 years, rode MX before that..normally I'm fine in gravel most of the roads around here arent paved and my driveway is crushed stones..and its not a short driveway..theres alot of things I should have done...not panicking for one..hanging off would have helped me I bet..but I'm just learning in that sense..I'm not an overly aggressive rider..I stay close to the speed limit and take it easy...as far as the weight part..:dunno_white:


Kim I bet he did...he kicked me over cause I was messing with Nick  :laugh: but really  I missed that telephone pole and not by much...someone was helping me out...
Title: Re: RVertigo is gonna hate me too
Post by: freewheelburner on September 01, 2006, 05:58:08 AM
I know the lean was all that saved me. but once your locked up there's not much you can do but go straight. I was proud of the way she handled the bike. If not for the gravel she would have got it under control for sure.