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Title: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 11, 2006, 09:31:06 AM
Okay...at my house, well, my parents house that is....we have cable internet. We then use a router (linksys) that we plug most of our computers into , but we also have a couple laptops we use wirelessly. In the other end of the house the internet is kinda iffy and was wondering what I should do to boost it up. I was thinking maybe run a cable out of the router to another router in the other end of the house? would this work?
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: LimaXray on September 11, 2006, 09:47:11 AM
That will work fine.  Actually, you don't need a whole router, you need either a 'wireless access point' or a router setup as one.

You could also:
1) Get a better antenna for your router, I'm pretty sure Linksys makes them.
2) Get a wireless repeater and put it somewhere in the middle of your house and it will repeat any transmissions that go across it, essentially amplifying them.

But honestly, a second hardwired access point is you best and cheapest bet   
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 11, 2006, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: LimaXray on September 11, 2006, 09:47:11 AM
That will work fine.  Actually, you don't need a whole router, you need either a 'wireless access point' or a router setup as one.

You could also:
1) Get a better antenna for your router, I'm pretty sure Linksys makes them.
2) Get a wireless repeater and put it somewhere in the middle of your house and it will repeat any transmissions that go across it, essentially amplifying them.

But honestly, a second hardwired access point is you best and cheapest bet   



Okay, I have tried one of those repeater things made by linksys and it didn't work. The guy at the store said he's sold about 8 of them and 7 have come back. But I think I will put the same router out in the other room then if I have to I can plug directly into it for a faster connection. Another thing that I have forgoten about or have become confused on is there are different types of wireless like B, G and N? Could somebody explain this to me?
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: ops_south on September 11, 2006, 11:26:19 AM
I have a second router on my network.  I tried the pringles can type antenna and a yagi on the single router and both did not work too well.  Two routers is much better.  I disabled DHCP on the 2nd router and plugged the crossover cable into the network port and not the wan port, works great.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 11, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
Easy solution...  Move the router to the middle of the house.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 11, 2006, 12:08:40 PM
The pringles can antenna (do a google search, or check hackaday.com) actually works pretty well for most people. I have friends who have had great results. I haven't had to try it yet, since we have 3 WAPs inside our fraternity house. Yay for being in a geeky fraternity! :laugh:
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 11, 2006, 01:10:14 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on September 11, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
Easy solution...  Move the router to the middle of the house.

Umm...that would probably be more work than adding another router in my case. Plus then we will have more signal strength on both ends of the house.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: coll0412 on September 11, 2006, 06:03:18 PM
The IEEE 802.11 has standards for wirelless signals, and it really has to do with speeds

B-2.0 mbps(
G-54mbps
N-540mbps

Now most wireless routers are back compatible, so if you have an 802.11G router it will also work on B networks
And that is all it really means, but one note, just avoid 802.11N for awhile since it is fairly new and most routers are not really 802.11N compatible routers, and have some problems. Infact I don't think IEEE has even finished the protocal standards for N networks yet


Best solution is to buy a high-gain antenna, the linksys routers I believe SMS connections

Otherwise you can buy long-range routers that supposedly can increase the transmission distance, but I have never used them





Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 11, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: coll0412 on September 11, 2006, 06:03:18 PM
The IEEE 802.11 has standards for wirelless signals, and it really has to do with speeds

B-2.0 mbps(
G-54mbps
N-540mbps

Now most wireless routers are back compatible, so if you have an 802.11G router it will also work on B networks
And that is all it really means, but one note, just avoid 802.11N for awhile since it is fairly new and most routers are not really 802.11N compatible routers, and have some problems. Infact I don't think IEEE has even finished the protocal standards for N networks yet


Best solution is to buy a high-gain antenna, the linksys routers I believe SMS connections

Otherwise you can buy long-range routers that supposedly can increase the transmission distance, but I have never used them









I just got home and I see that my computer does have 802.11G. And our router is only 802.11B. If I use both a 802.11G and a B router, will one still give out more speed? Would I have to put the G router first and go to the B router from that one? Also, when I'm wireless it says my connection speed is 11mbps.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 11, 2006, 07:10:06 PM
Since your router is the slower piece of equipment, that's gonna be the fastest you're able to FILE TRANSFER...

Your internet speed may still be the same speed, depending on WHICH service speed you are paying for.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: natedawg120 on September 11, 2006, 07:19:40 PM
you'll never go over 2MB over the internet from home unless you pay a shaZam! ton for service.  Now files transfers will be slow but with just the internet a B router is fine.  And if you get a G router the only time it will be faster is if you are on the end of the house with the G router.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 11, 2006, 08:11:22 PM
File transfers will be faster, but I also forgot network gaming.  NOT INTERNET GAMES...

Just gaming between your first computer and your second comp.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 11, 2006, 08:27:34 PM
how much do you guys pay for internet, what what type do you have?
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 11, 2006, 08:30:51 PM
$20 per month for basic DSL
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 11, 2006, 11:03:36 PM
bout twice that for cable
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 11, 2006, 11:29:26 PM
Uhh.. I get free 100mbps connection for living at the fraternity house. Wahoo campus networks!
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: LimaXray on September 12, 2006, 07:05:54 AM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 11, 2006, 11:29:26 PM
Uhh.. I get free 100mbps connection for living at the fraternity house. Wahoo campus networks!

free?!  I didn't know college and greek housing was free!  Crap I'm getting ripped off  :mad:


Personally I have the cheap DSL, it's less than 1 Mbps, but as Ann said, it's $20 a month and it's really all I need.

Cable is usually $40-50 a month depending on which package you get, and depending where you live, ranges from 1 Mbps all the way up to 10 Mbps

Verizon FiOS is 5 Mbps for $35 a month and 15 Mbps for $45 a month.





Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: RVertigo on September 12, 2006, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: coll0412 on September 11, 2006, 06:03:18 PMInfact I don't think IEEE has even finished the protocal standards for N networks yet
That's what I've heard as well.
Title: Re: wireless network
Post by: porsche4786 on September 12, 2006, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: LimaXray on September 12, 2006, 07:05:54 AM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 11, 2006, 11:29:26 PM
Uhh.. I get free 100mbps connection for living at the fraternity house. Wahoo campus networks!

free?!  I didn't know college and greek housing was free!  Crap I'm getting ripped off  :mad:


Personally I have the cheap DSL, it's less than 1 Mbps, but as Ann said, it's $20 a month and it's really all I need.

Cable is usually $40-50 a month depending on which package you get, and depending where you live, ranges from 1 Mbps all the way up to 10 Mbps

Verizon FiOS is 5 Mbps for $35 a month and 15 Mbps for $45 a month.







I have cable, but I'm not sure how many mbps it is, I don't see the bill or anything. It sucks though because my brother is playing video games about 20 hours out of the day everyday so that slow it down some.