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Title: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: moon_raker on September 26, 2006, 05:46:19 PM
How do. I noticed that someone recently wrote about putting a different tail on their GS...so's this is why
Im posting this. Im making my own rear cowl outa fiber glass and using the old tail peices AND the plastic
mold that is inside the seat so the whole thingermajig will fit just like the old cowl peices did.
Not to mention that this one peice cowl thing will still snap into the seat lock so it wont fall
off and no one can steal it...
I took some pics of it looking pretty ruff needing to be sanded and gone over some more...
Im not sure what Im going to do for a rear tail light and blinkers...I was thinking perhaps
an old 64 impala tial light...kinda making the rear look a little rocket like?
...anyway...take a look, it looks sorta cruddy...but I aint done yet!
(http://www.diggiemoon.com/efgjbfjnfdjndfjknblbposbpojbopjsbdojpfbbbvofdlkfkriwpodpddpfpfcmdsofegfgdflfokfgf/fabbing_seat.jpg)
I do plan on making a seat that either snaps on or is velcro-ed...maybe even just a mouse pad.. :laugh:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: Mandres on September 26, 2006, 05:52:23 PM
That's nice work, but it's freakin' huge.  Not my taste but I still want to see the pics when it's finished.

-M

-edit definitely make a good mold when you're finished, I bet you could sell a few and make it worth your while.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: moon_raker on September 26, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
Im trying to stay away from "the cheese factor"....
You think its too big? You know, I was worried about that too...but I wanted the top of it to sorta match the rake of the tank.
Sorta level with it you know? It doesnt really sit much higher than where the lold seat was...like 2 inches higher. It might look
fat or big because the old side panels dont match what I have made yet...it should look better once its all one color.

I like the look of the old 500 and 250cc moto gp bikes from back in the day....I sorta wanted it biggish. Should match up
better once I get a bigger rear rim and tire combo...Im also gonna fab something up to beef up my swing arm.

Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: ducati_nolan on September 26, 2006, 06:15:29 PM
Nice!  :thumb: It's oly a tiny bit big for my taste, but you're right, I have to wait 'til it's all done and paited to tell for sure. I definately looks like you do good work.

Mandres is right about making a mold, I bet you could sell a few of those. You could even have the top layer carbon fiber for some extra cool factor  O0 If you have good luck molding those, it may be worth trying to make a tank mold. I have thought about making a carbon fiber tank just for cosmetic reasons, but with everyone looking for new tanks to replace their rusty ones, there's definately a market for them.

You could do a whole body kit  O0
keep up the good work.  :cheers:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: 500F-Rider on September 26, 2006, 06:24:40 PM
Heck Yeah... you get some molds made up for that thing you could sell quite a few. I'd buy one of those un-finished from you in a heartbeat. Keep us posted on the progress....Excellent job man :thumb:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: rangerbrown on September 26, 2006, 06:58:54 PM
get some f model fairings and she will look really good

eather way it growing on me
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: plusultra on September 26, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
You could call it "The Behemoth"
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: moon_raker on September 26, 2006, 09:54:05 PM
DUDES!! IT AINT THAT BIG!!
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: bubba zanetti on September 26, 2006, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: plusultra on September 26, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
You could call it "The Behemoth"

Or J-Lo  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: average on September 26, 2006, 11:33:14 PM
Quote from: plusultra on September 26, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
You could call it "The Behemoth"
Adam Sandler says:THATS A HUUUUUGE Buddha Loves You  O0
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: Jarrett on September 26, 2006, 11:45:41 PM
It looks pretty good.  The lines are not exactly right tho.  if you reduce the rake/pitch of the tail end alittle it will be perfect.  That's what is causing it to look huge.   Nice job.  I think you've inspired me to kill my lungs some more with alittle fiberglass and bondo.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: hmmmnz on September 27, 2006, 02:25:22 AM
good to see someone who isn't afraid of modding there gs :thumb: keep it up and don't listen to the hecklers.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: plusultra on September 27, 2006, 03:43:46 AM
Quote from: average on September 26, 2006, 11:33:14 PM
Quote from: plusultra on September 26, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
You could call it "The Behemoth"
Adam Sandler says:THATS A HUUUUUGE Buddha Loves You  O0

lmao
dude, seriously props.  It needs some modifications for it to b perfect, like jarret said byt its cool that u r trying new things!
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: jazerr on September 27, 2006, 07:45:39 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on September 26, 2006, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: plusultra on September 26, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
You could call it "The Behemoth"

Or J-Lo  :icon_mrgreen:

bubba---you owe me a new keyboard.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: MarkusN on September 27, 2006, 08:40:08 AM
Hey, all you JLo-ass bashers, seriously: Who of you would turn that down if they got it served on a platter? Seriously?

Skinny it aint, but verrra shapely.

Just like your contribution moon raker. Dunno what it is, but something in that shape screams "Dinosaur" to me. Not that that is a bad thing. Would need to see you sitting on it for final judgement, though.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: WREX on September 27, 2006, 10:31:20 AM
moon_raker - nice work.  glad to see more one off modding.  I think everyone appreciates the labour and skills involved in your work.

subjectives are always just that - subjective and people will have different opinons and tastes.   comparing it to modern sportbikes (think r6) who's tails are getting smaller and finer tipped it seems,  it definitley looks large in comparsion, so if one is into that kind of look, they'd probably opt for something smaller.  but against the old school gp or sportbike styles, it's looks about the same size, so if one is into that look, they go with something like yours.  Also, like Markus mentioned, I think it'd be a better perspective with a pic of you or someone on it when done.


personally, I like the smaller tails myself, but really at the end of the day, as long as you like what you end up with, that's the most important thing - it's you bike and no one elses!

keep it up and post pics when done.

Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 27, 2006, 12:15:24 PM
I like it dude.  However, I agree with Jarrett, if you angle it down just a little bit more, I think it will follow the lines of the bike better.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: FearedGS500 on September 27, 2006, 12:52:04 PM
its alright i guess if you like  "Track bike" look and thats what i see when i look at it . not downing it or any thing .. i just want a small crowl to go on the back part of my rear seat that i can take off and on that way i can put stuff in it and still have the .. "small solo look :)

kinda of like this !
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/fearedgs500/untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: The Buddha on September 27, 2006, 05:56:10 PM
OK That is Hillary Duff with a Queen latifah ass ... not a JLo with a JLo ass ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: RVertigo on September 27, 2006, 06:01:55 PM
It's pretty big, but it'll look WAY better when it's painted up and has some numbers back there. O0
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: 94suzuki500 on September 27, 2006, 09:27:52 PM
did you take the engine out and fiber glass it in the tail section?!  just messin.  Looks good but alittle slant down to the rear might help the "big" of it all go away.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: Dr. Love on September 27, 2006, 09:54:59 PM
Storage space!
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: Whatever6060 on September 28, 2006, 05:36:54 PM
Moon raker,

I've been interested in experimenting with fiberglass making.  I was just wondering what type of materials you used for it?  I bought some resin and fiberglass from an autozone.  The fiberglass was pretty think and didn't seem very shapeable.  Does it seem Like I have the wrong product?

I jsut finished my CPA so am going to have some time to pay attention to my lonely GS (Been under the cover for three weeks  :cry:).  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: dbarile on September 28, 2006, 09:23:49 PM
While I await pictures of the finished product, I have to say I like the looks.

Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: pantablo on September 28, 2006, 10:06:46 PM
I like J-LO.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: moon_raker on October 09, 2006, 04:52:23 PM
To everyone that is poo-ing my rear cowl....HOW DARE YOU!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Naw, just kidding. :icon_lol:

Like I said before, I like the moto gp rear ends....the older ones that are kinda bigger...like on the ol' 500cc's?

It does look bigger than it really is, its not a straight on angle...sorta from above, like I was standing over it....

As for the rake not matching up with the lines of the tank, when its off its center stand it matches up a bit better....
...making it look less aggressvie.

Im gonna get a gsxr/kat rim so's I can get a fatter tire back there to match up with the bigger cowl.
Im also going to CUT OFF the passenger foot pegs, and fab something up to hang my pipe from.
I'm prolly gonna bend my exhaust pipe up some, bringing it closer to the rear side panel/cowl.

Another thing Im going to do is "beef" up my swing arm some, making it look a little tuffer instead
of what it is now....which to me looks too simple and even though it does its job just fine, it
looks sorta weak....OH RELAX people, Im not dissing anyones stock swing arms, its just I gotta
do something to go with my (big) racey rear cowl...something to go with it you know?
..and Im too cheap to buy and fit something off another bike....

You know, another thing is, Im going to use the original seat foam and canvas/leather.
And when thats sitting on it, the tail doesnt look near as big...it raises up the seat area
about one and a half inches.

Im going for something that looks sorta like wayne rainey's old gp bike...91-ish...
(http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcphotos/mcgp/rainey2.jpg)

aaanyway.
Whatever6060 >> Yup, sounds like you bought the wrong stuff. Ive never really worked with fiberglass until this....
...so if I can do it, anyone can. You just have to fab something up first....or atleast thats how I did it...Im not sure of
the "correct" way. I did read up some on molding/shaping fiber glass by way of stretching fleece over something and
then painting/soaking it with resin and letting it dry...to where it holds its shape. You can read about fabbing stuff
like that on car stereo web sites...in the forums...you know, its used when making sub-boxes and door panels etc.

But anyway, the way I did it was I took some card board, like thick poster board, and began cutting out a side form.
I just eye balled it, cut some, held it up to where I wanted it tie into my original side panel....and when I got an idea
of something I liked, I cut out an exact replica for the other side....then taped them to each side panal leaving the middle
empty. Then I tape them together down the middle, bending them together, and when I got the gap and look I wanted,
I cut another peice that would run down the middle. Then I cut the peice where the back of the seat is suppost to be...
Bending it it to conform....and then I went over all my seams with scotch tape to hold all the joints long enough for me
to flip this whole contraption upside down and place fiberglass/angel hair inside it and then paint on my resin...
Once it was dry, I did it again for strenth. Then on the other side, the outside, I took off all my tape and laid fiber
glass all over the outs side, tying in the new fiberglass into the oringinal side panels. Hit it with resin, let it dry and
did another layer. Then I layed something over the back, hit it with resin, let it dry, trimmed it. Did it again for
strenth.

Now Im doing the body filler thing.....I havent had much time to work on it though....

All I used was fiberglass/angel hair, resin, hardener. And of corse the card board and scotch tape.

Get yourself some extra side panels off ebay, maybe an extra seat and try it out!
Its no biggie.

Im still not sure of what kinda tail light Im going to put on her though...hum...

Ok, enough...this has turned into a novel.
Laters
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: starwalt on October 09, 2006, 05:33:06 PM
While you are at it, hinge the hump, add a lock and line the inside. Now your hump becomes a trunk!

I applaud your efforts!  :thumb:

You should see some of dgyver's efforts. He's got all sorts of ideas hanging in his shop.
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: moon_raker on October 09, 2006, 06:34:32 PM
It already has a lock....Im using the original seat plastic, so everything snaps in just like it would if I hadnt done anything...

Ewwww, I wanna see dgyvers stuff!!

Ill search his name for pics....?!?
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: rob1bike on October 14, 2006, 05:06:51 AM
Moon raker, good job! Don't listen to the nay sayers! I'd love to see the final product! You can sell those for sure!!! I'm outside of augusta,ga. Let's see pics as you get it done, again good job!
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: gs500zach on October 18, 2006, 08:55:04 AM
I like it man good job!!    keep us posted please
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: Blueknyt on October 18, 2006, 07:27:48 PM
the starting height, isnt bad, perhaps if you did a progressive slope to the tail light kinda like the GSXR solo or Busa solo seats. still keep it up.  :thumb:
Title: Re: >> my own rear cowl >>
Post by: calamari on October 18, 2006, 07:29:50 PM
the bigger, the better