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Title: I must be crazy
Post by: LimaXray on September 27, 2006, 06:05:54 AM
So for the past several weeks there was this bike for sale down the street from me.  I drove by it all the time, and finally decided to stop and look at it last weekend.  It was a '95 GSXR 750 that had a few dings here and there and didn't run but was in overall good condition for its age.  The guy wanted $2400, which from my research would have been about right if it ran.  Of course, a little thing like not running doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but I didn't feel like spending that much cash on another bike.  Oh well, maybe next year I thought.

Yesterday, on my way home from work, as I passed it I decided to stop again.  So yeah, long story short, I bought the damn thing for $1800.  Wooo I'm now a proud owner of a GSXR750! I must be nuts! 

I pushed it home, it was only about a 1/4 of a mile so it wasn't that bad.  I drained some fuel out of the float bowls and it was this horrible brown color.  I got rid most of the old gas, drained the rest of the fuel out of the float bowls, then put some fresh gas and carb cleaner in the tank.  After 30 sec of cranking she fired right up and ran perfectly.  This all took me about 20 minutes to do, and boy was I happy.

After I got it running, of course I had to take it for a ride around the block.  Let me first say this is my first time riding a super sport bike.  Just riding around at 25 MPH you can tell this thing has a lot more power than my little GS.  I can also see what everyone means by the GS is so flickable, because the 750 definately is not.  It caught me as a big surprise when I realized how much more input you have to put into the bars to get this thing to do what you want.  Compared to the GS, I have to really muscle this thing to get it to turn.  The bars actually push back on you in a turn making the need to counter steer 1000x more obvious.   

Overall, from my short ride I found the 750 way more difficult to ride than the GS.  Also, seeing as the 750 makes about 120hp, I figure it's about comprable to modern 600s.  With that in mind, anyone who says a 600cc SS makes a great first bike, is either crazy or a moron.  If I started on a bike like this, I don't think I would be nearly as comfortable with riding as I am now.   I'm sure after a day of riding it, I would be right at home, but I don't think I would have enjoyed learning on a bike that requires so much input.

Anyway, I don't think I'm going to register this bike anytime soon, and instead use it strictly as a track bike for now.  (yes, I'm now addicted to the track)  I'm also not going to get rid of the GS anytime soon, I still like it way too much to give it up.  Oh well, what's wrong with having a bike collection?

Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: rangerbrown on September 27, 2006, 06:14:22 AM
it doesnt make 120 more like 100hp

check the tire pressere to as that will cause the feed back on the steering.

good damn buy if you aske me.
i got my cbr i had for 500$ and it was runing. sold it for 1800$
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 06:29:34 AM
WOW!! Good buy.  :thumb:  Very nice bike. what color is yours?


(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/06/29/bikepics-4417-full.jpg)(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/06/16/bikepics-3796-full.jpg)(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/08/07/bikepics-6521-full.jpg)
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: LimaXray on September 27, 2006, 06:35:14 AM
Yup, that's the bike.  Mine's blue and white.  Unfortunately, mine didn't come with the girl in the bikini; is that a standard option, or is it an aftermarket add-on? 
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 06:39:48 AM
Definitely an aftermarket add-on.  Quite pricey actually, but you can get a good discount model locally.  Beware, the cheaper the heavier.
and heavy chics make your bike slow.

(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/05/10/bikepics-2119-800.jpg)
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 27, 2006, 07:02:08 AM
Congrats dude!  Buying non-running bikes in good condish, fixing them and selling them off is something that I hope to do as a hobby when I buy a house in a year or so.

That bike would be incredible for the track!  You seriously scored.

-Turd.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: MrDan on September 27, 2006, 07:08:27 AM
Quote from: LimaXray on September 27, 2006, 06:05:54 AMI can also see what everyone means by the GS is so flickable, because the 750 definately is not.  It caught me as a big surprise when I realized how much more input you have to put into the bars to get this thing to do what you want.  Compared to the GS, I have to really muscle this thing to get it to turn.  The bars actually push back on you in a turn making the need to counter steer 1000x more obvious.

Mini hijack question.  It seems like most people put steering dampers on sport bikes.  I probably don't understand the rationale, but I thought that was to make the steering require more input so you can't just flick the bike at speed.

If that's accurate, it seems like anyone who learns on a bike like the GS and is used to the flickability (woohoo new word), would be able to get away without dampers on a sport bike.

Or am I just crazy?
[/hijack]

Oh yeah - and sweet bike :)  I saw one around here that was running ... for something like $4000 ... insane
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 07:42:41 AM
you don't flick the bike by turning the handle bars.

you drop the bike into the turn.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: MrDan on September 27, 2006, 07:47:27 AM
Quote from: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 07:42:41 AM
you don't flick the bike by turning the handle bars.

you drop the bike into the turn.

Ok - I over used flick cause it's a fun word.  Substitute what you said ... am I still way off?
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 07:49:21 AM
A sprint damper is hydraulic-piston device that can be mounted on motorcycles to prevent it from wobbling while cornering.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: MrDan on September 27, 2006, 07:53:35 AM
Quote from: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 07:49:21 AM
A sprint damper is hydraulic-piston device that can be mounted on motorcycles to prevent it from wobbling while cornering.

So I was way off  :laugh:

Cool - thanks for the explanation - always wondered about that  :cheers:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: pandy on September 27, 2006, 07:59:39 AM
Congrats on the new-to-you bike!!!  :cheers: :cheers:

And if you can't ride with a heavy chick on the back, then you just don't know how to ride. Wasn't it pablo who said, it's not the ride, it's the rider! Even my Baby G never complained about a heavy chick on his back!  :thumb: :laugh:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 08:19:48 AM
Pandy, I ve seen a half pic or two of you,   your not heavy.  Definitely not heavy enough to slow a bike.

Plus you don't count.  Your not a groupie aftermarket add-on, your a biker.  Biker woman are UBERSEXY. :bowdown:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: pandy on September 27, 2006, 08:26:12 AM
At my sickest over the past couple of years, I weighed almost 300 lbs, and the Baby G pulled my big boo-tay around just fine. If I couldn't ride, I'd absolutely be a groupie after-market add-on. Whatever it takes to ride!  :laugh: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 94suzuki500 on September 27, 2006, 01:17:41 PM
good job on the price.  I bought a 1995 kawasaki zx6r for 1700 a couple weeks back, didnt run well, but had brand new paint job and clean title with 20000 miles.  I ran some carbon cleaner through the engine after I cleaned the carbs and it runs awesome.  Bikes worth 3200 or somthing I think.  Good deals, got to look for them. 
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 27, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/06/29/bikepics-4417-full.jpg)

Nice!  And the bike looks good too.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: 3imo on September 27, 2006, 02:02:52 PM
Thank you, I tanned all week for that pic.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: coyotee on September 27, 2006, 02:11:52 PM


(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/05/10/bikepics-2119-800.jpg)

this was my brother first bike to a T... he cought all kinds of crap for the pink  :cheers:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: jackiei26 on September 27, 2006, 06:53:13 PM
congrats on the second bike - have fun on the track with it  :cheers:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: blue05twin on September 27, 2006, 08:01:10 PM
 :cheers:  Grats on your new bike , great geal.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Chilly Willy on September 27, 2006, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: The Post Whore on September 27, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/06/29/bikepics-4417-full.jpg)

Nice!  And the bike looks good too.

I can't believe you guys are letting such a great Photoshop opportunity pass you by.  Your assignment:  Pablo's head on this chick's body.

Chilly Willy
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Dr. Love on September 27, 2006, 09:52:45 PM
she's ruining the bike... blocks the view.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 27, 2006, 11:44:10 PM
The bike has to have more imput in moving it because everything on it that spins is bigger.  The wheels are wider and with meatier tires, the crank's three times the weight, cam shafts and gears and all of that...it's inertia and you have to fight it...unless you get a real bike.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 28, 2006, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Chilly Willy on September 27, 2006, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: The Post Whore on September 27, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2001/06/29/bikepics-4417-full.jpg)

Nice!  And the bike looks good too.

I can't believe you guys are letting such a great Photoshop opportunity pass you by.  Your assignment:  Pablo's head on this chick's body.

Chilly Willy


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/bikepics-4417-full.jpg) :dunno_white: :thumb:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Chilly Willy on September 28, 2006, 07:51:07 AM
That's what I'm talkin' about!!!!  Yeah baby, yeah! :thumb:
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Jake D on September 28, 2006, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 27, 2006, 11:44:10 PM
The bike has to have more imput in moving it because everything on it that spins is bigger.  The wheels are wider and with meatier tires, the crank's three times the weight, cam shafts and gears and all of that...it's inertia and you have to fight it...unless you get a real bike.

A real bike meaning. . . a TL1000S?
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
TL...RC/VTR...RSV...Tuono...superbike...etc.  You know...real bikes.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Alphamazing on September 28, 2006, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
TL...RC/VTR...RSV...Tuono...superbike...etc.  You know...real bikes.

What about a Husky SM610?
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Jake D on September 28, 2006, 11:22:57 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
TL...RC/VTR...RSV...Tuono...superbike...etc.  You know...real bikes.

Yes, yes.  There you go.

I noticed you didn't put the SV1000 in there.  Good boy. 

I say, tack on a VFR and you'd have it just about right.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 11:53:06 AM
bleh...vfr's have too many cylinders.

I would have added the SV but, after riding one, they're not the same...the raw feel of two big pistons flopping around under your tank just isn't there.  The SV is a wonderful bike...but it's a bit shy a real bike.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on September 28, 2006, 10:53:49 AM
What about a Husky SM610?

super-motards = toys.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Jake D on September 28, 2006, 12:00:13 PM
I noticed on the Suzuki website, the '07 SV650 is available with ABS.  Not the SV1000. 

They should re-do the SV1000.  Make it a 1200 and put top notch suspension on it, relax the ergos a bit and I'd buy one.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 12:06:46 PM
Why that much displacement?  If you're going to change it make it competitive where it is...with the other liter twins.  All it needs is a bit more compression and some more aggressive cams and porting in the engine department...and a slightly larger exhaust.  The rods and cranks are tough and the tranny takes abuse as well as any.  K6 GSXR suspension front and back would make the suspension sexy...the whole K6 GSXR front end and wheels should be used (including the front brakes).  Hell yeah...right there, 15~20 more ponies and K6 GSXR components front and back and Kalee would be pissed at me.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Alphamazing on September 28, 2006, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on September 28, 2006, 10:53:49 AM
What about a Husky SM610?

super-motards = toys.

I'm comfortable with that. Especially if I can get my hands on one for $4k.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: makenzie71 on September 28, 2006, 12:29:09 PM
hey...toys are great.
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: Jake D on September 28, 2006, 12:55:05 PM
Well, Ducati will soon have a 1200 v-twin.  I think other manufacturers may follow suit.  Buell has one as well that is legal in AMA Formula Extreme.   My question is: why not 1200 cc? The BMW R1200S is a perfect example.  120 hp and 85 ft/lbs.  I love that bike. 

But yeah, the current SV motor, with more of a raw edge to it, with top self components from the GSXR line would be amazing.  Maybe update the styling (a lot).  I'd buy one. 
Title: Re: I must be crazy
Post by: LimaXray on September 28, 2006, 04:19:34 PM
I would much rather one of these:

(http://www.apriliausa.com/upload/modelli/road/p00488_0109.jpg)

but I can't find anyone willing to sell me one for $1800, and I'd probably kill myself on it.  My Suzuki dealer has 2 of them and an RSV that I have to walk by and drool over everytime I walk in the store.

Actually, I got this bike as a cheap stepping stone to a 1000cc V-Twin like an Aprillia or RC-51

As for the 1200, there's no reason for one when you can make just as much power out of a 1000.  That Aprilia, for example, makes 133hp; the RSV makes 143 hp, both out of a 1000.

Oh and Buells suck, so of course they let them use a 1200.  :flipoff: