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Title: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 02:45:45 AM
has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500 is it even possible?
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: sledge on September 29, 2006, 02:48:53 AM
Rangerbrown is fitting a turbo to his, and he has promised to unveil it on the 13th Jan. He might be able to help you  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: 94suzuki500 on September 29, 2006, 06:16:30 AM
you can fuel inject anything kinda easily with Mega Squirt, someone posted it awhile back, dont think anyone did it though. 
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: werase643 on September 29, 2006, 06:58:58 AM
yes
search

i'll answer, but i ain't looking it up for lazy people
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: werase643 on September 29, 2006, 08:19:57 AM
search....lazy....here is a teaser :flipoff:

Here are more details:
The throttle bodies are from a 1994 Polaris Indy Classic EFI Snowmobile off eBay $35    I had to make an adapter to accomodate the inlet port angles (details available to those who need them). It came with the TPS, fuel pressure reg., fuel rail and linkages intact. Everything fit 95%.

The EFI is Megasquirt which took a HELL OF A LOT of dialing in    I would have been up the creek had I not been bailed out by a great guy in VA (see the site credits). The MS forum is probably more help now though. You really need a dyno and a laptop to properly dial it in.

LOTS OF WORK!!!!! ... specially making the harness. Even now, I'm working out bugs. Frinstance, the fuel pump I used killed the bike halfway down a 1/4 mile drag test. Too much current draw on the poor old GS battery and charging system when the RPM's go up and the injectors start cranking away, and the fuel pump is going non-stop. The Megasquirt calls for a switched fuel pump, but I said what the heck and by-passed adding another relay circuit and just had it always on for my dinky LS passes.

Lots of sensors needed to be added: cylinder temp, air temp, MAP (manifold air pressure), O2 bung needed to be welded to the exhaust, uh, lessee ... fuel pump with switch, a boat-load of fuses called for a new fuse panel (7-10) and a long ground strip with two separate large gauge taps to the frame. Did I mention a bigger battery? I'm going to try a Gold Wing battery next. Injectors are a bit large for a non turbo application, so count on down-sizing. MAP tap was off the inlet port but needed a vacuum accumulator to buffer out the vac surges (details available). Lots more ... Probably about $250-$1000 to outfit depending on how you score.
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: MarkusN on September 29, 2006, 10:42:50 AM
 :o

Who in their right mind would call their product "squirt"...
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: The Buddha on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: MarkusN on September 29, 2006, 11:16:53 AM
Point

But then, DL doesn't market his crazy.
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: sledge on September 29, 2006, 01:21:14 PM
Markus?
I am not surprised my friend.......BTW do you know the Aussies call sellotape Durex?
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/personal-hygiene/durex-ribbed-condoms/1001218/prices/topsites/
And the Italians have an aluminium alloy also called Durex that they like to make bicycle wheel rims out off. (halfway down the list)
http://deesidecycles.com/info/ambrosio.htm

wellcome to the tard-farm.
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: LimaXray on September 29, 2006, 02:04:12 PM
Yeah, Megasquirt is the way to go.  I've MS'ed a big turbo'd Audi A4 with good success.  I didn't find it too difficult, but then again I'm a computer engineer and microcontrollers and embedded systems like MS are what I do with my life. 

check out www.megasquirt.info (http://www.megasquirt.info) for some good info.

If you MS the GS, you can also use it to drive the ignition coil thus allowing you to tune the timing.

but yeah, pretty much what werase said.  You can use the throttle bodies, fuel pump, and fuel pressure regulator from just about anything.  Personally, I'd get my throttle bodies from a GSXR, and get the rest from some crappy 4-banger econo-car in the junk yard. 

Honestly though, I see no real reason to make the GS EFI unless you're making some sick race engine or turboing it and you want better fueling.
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: Chuck on September 29, 2006, 02:16:20 PM
Quote from: LimaXray on September 29, 2006, 02:04:12 PM
Honestly though, I see no real reason to make the GS EFI unless you're making some sick race engine or turboing it and you want better fueling.

I can see people doing it just to reduce the warmup time.  :laugh:
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: werase643 on September 29, 2006, 02:49:16 PM
the gs weenies won't buy a real jet kit because some tardo said that 40 pilots and 150's(or what ever) is better than a dyno sheet from a company that produces ..... jet kits
fuel injection/turbo/good suspension is unobtanium for ya'll cheap bastards.....
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: ducati_nolan on September 29, 2006, 02:53:18 PM
Why would anyone want to spend the time and money on this? You'd have to hawe way too much time and money on your hands. but whatever gets you off  :thumb:
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: werase643 on September 29, 2006, 03:02:56 PM
the guy who did it.....installed it on a bonneville SALT flat racer.....

Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: CirclesCenter on September 29, 2006, 03:19:44 PM
Quote from: werase643 on September 29, 2006, 03:02:56 PM
the guy who did it.....installed it on a bonneville SALT flat racer.....



Sweet.

Yeah carbs are good until you start going forced induction, then all hell breaks loose. (And it eats your head when you go from open to closed throttle rapidly.)
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.

arrr me then air ram it yay
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: CirclesCenter on September 29, 2006, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.

arrr me then air ram it yay

Between the two of them it's like a spanish guy and a french guy who both know a little bit of english trying to communicate with that little.....
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: tussey on September 30, 2006, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on September 29, 2006, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.

arrr me then air ram it yay

Between the two of them it's like a spanish guy and a french guy who both know a little bit of english trying to communicate with that little.....


haha priceless  :thumb:
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: deathlucky on September 30, 2006, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: tussey on September 30, 2006, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on September 29, 2006, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.

arrr me then air ram it yay

Between the two of them it's like a spanish guy and a french guy who both know a little bit of english trying to communicate with that little.....


haha priceless  :thumb:

sí amigo
Title: Re: has anyone ever fuel injected there gs500
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 30, 2006, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: deathlucky on September 30, 2006, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: tussey on September 30, 2006, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on September 29, 2006, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: deathlucky on September 29, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on September 29, 2006, 10:58:32 AM
Uhhhh .... who in their right mind will fuel inject a GS ...  O0
Cool.
Srinath.

arrr me then air ram it yay

Between the two of them it's like a spanish guy and a french guy who both know a little bit of english trying to communicate with that little.....


haha priceless  :thumb:

sí amigo

See, now, I actually understood that. So DL, from now on, you have to speak in spanish! :laugh: