i have a 2005 gs500F and it rocks. in the future i want to get an r6 or gsxr600. i've been doing some reading on them and i'm leaning towards the gsxr. does anyone have one of the 2 and /or have any opinion on them? any input will be greatly appreciated. thanks
Jason
i have ridden both, and rate them both quite highly, i think the gsxr had slightly better handling but it was negligble, go for what ever you like the look of best.
there isn't much in it, personal preference
it's totally up to you. Personally I like the gixxer. Not because i have one but because of the following reason's
1- R6 wins in HP but for street riding you have to be in the 10K RPM range to go anywhere. Where as the gixxer you have more street friendly power but less than the R6
2-looks wise i like them both so it's up to you which one you like better in that
3-ergo's the R6 is a toture rack the gixxer is very comfortable IMHO. The R6 also has a very high seat height since i'm only a 30 inch inseam yeah no good for me. the gixxer is a lot more comfortable with footing.
Assuming you are talking about the 06 R6, but if you go with the 06 R6S i think that thing is the better choice for street riding. That thing has the best ergos and a great power curve. IMO street riding go with either the 06 R6S or gixxer 6. Mostly track use then go for the 06 R6. That's my .02 cents hope that helped.
i'm a honda fan when it comes to bikes :P dont let that one slide out of view .. you might see if they will let you test ride them ... (most the time you have to be aproved before they will let you ) my causin just bought an 06 GSXR600 and its pretty nice .. it will get up and go .. i'v also rode a 2005 R6 it was alright .. but if you are only willing to look at the R6 and the GSXR i'd go with the GSXR hands down .. but have a look in to the CBR600 and the 600RR you might be suprised :)
Quote from: BOSS500 on October 02, 2006, 08:32:48 AM
it's totally up to you. Personally I like the gixxer. Not because i have one but because of the following reason's
1- R6 wins in HP but for street riding you have to be in the 10K RPM range to go anywhere. Where as the gixxer you have more street friendly power but less than the R6
2-looks wise i like them both so it's up to you which one you like better in that
3-ergo's the R6 is a toture rack the gixxer is very comfortable IMHO. The R6 also has a very high seat height since i'm only a 30 inch inseam yeah no good for me. the gixxer is a lot more comfortable with footing.
Assuming you are talking about the 06 R6, but if you go with the 06 R6S i think that thing is the better choice for street riding. That thing has the best ergos and a great power curve. IMO street riding go with either the 06 R6S or gixxer 6. Mostly track use then go for the 06 R6. That's my .02 cents hope that helped.
what he said.
I've ridden a GSXR 750 but it was a 2000 model so it's probally a little different than the new ones. It's like two different bikes, keep the revs bellow 9k and it's super mellow and easy to ride but once it gets up past 10k or so it just starts screaming and wants to rip your arms off :o I like the 750 though, lots more power than the 600 but still about the same sixe and weight. A 600 you may get bored with eventually but the 750 should keep you entertained for a long long time. Bigger is always better.
Don't die :cheers:
I have ridden a '97 GSXR-600 (pig of a bike, one of the worst model years for the GSXR) and I own a '99 R6.
What they say about the R6 liking to be wound up to deliver power is very true. I have named my bike "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" due to its contrasting tame and wildly-powerful behavior.
"Streetable power" is a subjective term and really a matter of how you ride. When I ride on side streets (like commuting to-and-from work) then I dont have a need/reason for an extreme amount of torque... so I find the low-end power curve very suitable (what would I do with that power on the low end...? pop the clutch and open the throttle wide open so that i could pass one or two SUVs before a quick lane change in bumper-to-bumper traffic?)
When i ride the highway, my cruising speed is normally 5-7 mph faster than the mean flow of traffic (usually an indicated 77-85 mph). You don't know the joys of highway riding until you've downshifted an inline-4 race bike into the middle of its powerband and rolled the throttle open :-)
Personally, I don't mind having to wind my bike up to access the full strength of the powerband... I prefer it. It simplifies everyday riding while forcing you to really commit to precise control of the machine if you decide to be johnny racerboy on the street and around corners... just try taking a normal corner at 11K rpm in first gear and see how smooth you can maintain your line.
I dont' ride crazy... but if one wants to on the R6 then it takes a little more conscious effort and skill to do so than on other bikes with more low-end torque
Get the R6, I don't want any more people riding GSXR 600's now that I have one! :laugh:
i'd go for the gixxer600. and like Fearedgs500 said, you might wanna check out the hondas too. good luck with whatever you choose!
Quote from: porsche4786 on October 03, 2006, 09:43:20 PM
Get the R6, I don't want any more people riding GSXR 600's now that I have one! :laugh:
how do you like your gs500 now that you have a gixxer? just wondering.
Well, the gsxr comes tomorrow when i pick it up from the dock. I rode my friends home from the dealer and it was very very nice. But I can't really say all of how much I like it.
gsxr for sure but why not a busa or a gsx-r1000 i was thinking of getting a busa next then i saw it would be $7,000 for insurents so now im going to get a yamaha fz1 r1 only $4,000 insurents
Quote from: deathlucky on October 03, 2006, 11:56:34 PM
gsxr for sure but why not a busa or a gsx-r1000 i was thinking of getting a busa next then i saw it would be $7,000 for insurents so now im going to get a yamaha fz1 r1 only $4,000 insurents
Are there any parts off a (hypothetically) wrecked Yamaha R1 that I could retrofit to my GS? If so... DIBS! :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: porsche4786 on October 03, 2006, 09:47:24 PM
Well, the gsxr comes tomorrow when i pick it up from the dock. I rode my friends home from the dealer and it was very very nice. But I can't really say all of how much I like it.
Well, now they say it's going to be delivered today so I won't make a trip to the wharehouse to pick it up...now I just get to sit here and wait for the truck....I hate this part, when you know it's comming and your just waiting for that truck to pull in.
I can't imagine buying any of the Japanese 600's for street use now that the Triumph 675 is available. But thats just me.
Quote from: Grainbelt on October 04, 2006, 08:38:33 AM
I can't imagine buying any of the Japanese 600's for street use now that the Triumph 675 is available. But thats just me.
Aye, I agree. When I add another bike to the family, it's going to be something in the 675-750cc range. I was looking at the torque curves for the 600's, and they didn't even beat the GS until 7-8k rpm! Obviously they climb skyhigh after that, but I wouldn't want to be winding it up a lot for street riding.
Quote from: brett on October 04, 2006, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Grainbelt on October 04, 2006, 08:38:33 AM
I can't imagine buying any of the Japanese 600's for street use now that the Triumph 675 is available. But thats just me.
Aye, I agree. When I add another bike to the family, it's going to be something in the 675-750cc range. I was looking at the torque curves for the 600's, and they didn't even beat the GS until 7-8k rpm! Obviously they climb skyhigh after that, but I wouldn't want to be winding it up a lot for street riding.
And why wouldnt you wind it up on the street? Different machine different riding style on a supersport or superbike. Typically I run an appropriate gear to keep my 954 in the 6 to 8k rpm range in traffic. Might just be me but I think you need to learn to keep your bike in it's powerband, friends of mine ride r6's and typically run 8k or better before shifting. if your really gonna whine about the torque curves maybe you really ought to get a liter bike then you dont have to worry about learning how to ride appropriately.
I know how to keep my bike in the powerband just fine. I don't have a car, so my bike does everything: twisties, commuting, general street riding. I prefer having a little more punch down low for street riding, as it's makes for a more relaxing ride.
Sorry for the threadjack.
Quote from: brett on October 04, 2006, 10:25:58 AM
I don't have a car, so my bike does everything: twisties, commuting, general street riding.
Did this for seven years, not in california weather either.
Quote from: brett on October 04, 2006, 10:25:58 AM
I prefer having a little more punch down low for street riding, as it's makes for a more relaxing ride.
Then you should not even consider a 600cc size inline 4, none of them make cofortable power down low. Hence my suggestion of a liter class bike, or the Gixxer 750. At a minimum.
Do you have any other experience other than the GS500? I think you would find the 600 fuel injected bikes to be a completely different animal than what your analysis of it's torque curve is compared to a GS.
My intent was not to insult you, I apologize for the unintended slight.
With 21 years of experience I can tell you now that your dads old 750 or 1000 that used to rule the road will not compete with a modern FI 600cc bike. So if this is your frame of reference in comparing what you think you want power wise to what is available, reconsider your options. Make really good friends with someone who has a bike you are considering and maybe try a test drive if you haven't been on one. Armchair analysis is of zero usage and comparison of a dyno chart for a GS to a R6 is exactly that. The GS will get you there it will run and clank along long after I have drooled over and bought my latest superbike to ride. But it will never accelerate nearly as fast as the gixxer or r6 which have been discussed, and the relatively tame honda in comparison is a beast as well when compared to the GS and more reliable and finer finished than the other 2 bikes.
There will probably be a GS in my garage for years to come as I have a wife who will ride and then in a few years my son. Make no mistake just because the torque curve is the same through 8k does not mean the ride is the same.
All the current 600's are about the same in horsepower so just get the bike that you feel the most comfortable on and that you like the looks of.
Jason, how long have you had the bike? IF you've only got a season under your belt, you need to stop considering modern supersports. Get more seat time on the GS, or start looking at the older lines...94~98 are prime for 600's, but I like older ones even more. I suggest this mostly because the bikes are far cheaper, they'll hold their resale value better, have more aftermarket support, and you won't be stuck with a bike you don't like for a few years. When it comes to street riding, very few people manage to stay with the 600's.
If you've got a few seasons riding time on the GS...well, I still wouldn't suggest either the R6 or GSXR 600. They're simply too high strung for me...actually they irritate me after being on a TL for a few years. With my bike I can move on a long in any gear at any speed...I can pull off of idle in 6th gear without a hiccup with a good map. You can't do that with the 600's. I don't like having to pay so much attention to my gears when I'm trying to ride casual...and I hate having to run 19,000rpm in second because 3rd bogs.
If I were you I'd aim at the twins, tripples, or liter bikes. Go cheap with the middle man.
If you intend to race, though, I'd get the GSXR. I feel it's more capable...and it doesn't look so godaweful.
Quote from: Grainbelt on October 04, 2006, 08:38:33 AM
I can't imagine buying any of the Japanese 600's for street use now that the Triumph 675 is available. But thats just me.
Here here! :cheers: Finally, someone is talking sense. Few people take to the track (I'm no exception) and therefore rarely access their bike's power except to look like a fool and/or act like one on the street. Triumph = streetability (and lots 'o fun).
-Patrick
Quote from: twinlove04 on October 04, 2006, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: Grainbelt on October 04, 2006, 08:38:33 AM
I can't imagine buying any of the Japanese 600's for street use now that the Triumph 675 is available. But thats just me.
Here here! :cheers: Finally, someone is talking sense. Few people take to the track (I'm no exception) and therefore rarely access their bike's power except to look like a fool and/or act like one on the street. Triumph = streetability (and lots 'o fun).
-Patrick
Again do you have any experience with riding one of these bikes? If not you really do not have a frame of reference and can not speak to their streatability. The 675 is fun I have ridden one recently I have also ridden the gixxer6 and 750 the r6 and the 600rr, I would take the gixxer750 over the trumpet just my opinion. Spend less time reading the rags and more time riding.
R6s or 675....I can't decide either. Dosen't help that I dont know anyone with either bike, and have only seen 1 675 in real life...
Ruled out the gixxers cause the ergos just aren't right for me - but I think i'd go 750 instead of 600 in that family. Ruled out the fabulous Honda Interceptor cause it's too heavy (so pretty though!).
And when I'm sure I don't want a naked bike, I catch a glimpse of the MV Agusta Brutale, and all my reasoning goes away... :bowdown:
Quote from: jen_ on October 05, 2006, 10:10:27 AM
R6s or 675....I can't decide either. Dosen't help that I dont know anyone with either bike, and have only seen 1 675 in real life...
Ruled out the gixxers cause the ergos just aren't right for me - but I think i'd go 750 instead of 600 in that family. Ruled out the fabulous Honda Interceptor cause it's too heavy (so pretty though!).
And when I'm sure I don't want a naked bike, I catch a glimpse of the MV Agusta Brutale, and all my reasoning goes away... :bowdown:
There are a good number of Triumph dealerships that will let you test ride the bike, but I've never seen a dealership with test rides for the big four japanese brands.
Every "big four" brand dealership will let you test ride a bike...ANY dealer that wants to sell bikes will let you. All you got to do is come in and say you're buying a bike if it fits you, and there's only one way to know that. If they say no, go to another dealer.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 10:59:47 AM
Every "big four" brand dealership will let you test ride a bike...ANY dealer that wants to sell bikes will let you. All you got to do is come in and say you're buying a bike if it fits you, and there's only one way to know that. If they say no, go to another dealer.
In Oklahoma no dealership will allow you to test ride a sport bike and very rarely will they let you ride any other bike either. Most offer a 24hour 100% satisfaction guarantee, you must purchase a bike to ride it. If I am selling a bike test rides require a deposit of the fulll sales price refundable if you don't break it.
Same difference. They won't hold you to it if you don't like it.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 10:59:47 AM
Every "big four" brand dealership will let you test ride a bike...ANY dealer that wants to sell bikes will let you. All you got to do is come in and say you're buying a bike if it fits you, and there's only one way to know that. If they say no, go to another dealer.
We've only got one real Big 4 dealership here in town and they don't allow test rides on new bikes. Used bikes yes, but new, no.
ok I don't know what the hell was going on but it refused to let me post...or even preview a post...kept saying I don't have permission/404 not found...whatever...
now it won't even let me copy in my original post...son of a Buddha Loves You...
anyway, just go in and flash the cash. Tell them you're riding before you're buying and the only variable is who sells you the bike. Unless they have a money back guaruntee thing they'll have you on whatever you want to ride within 10 minutes.
I've gotten lots of test rides from dealers that "don't offer test rides"...and I didn't even have a license.
depends on how badly a dealer wants to move a bike...the 675's are moving fast so unlikely to deal with you on price, but triumph dealers usually let you test ride them. japanese dealers dont in CA. most of them are so desirable that if you dont buy due to no test ride they'll just sell it to the next guy. Here they'll let you test ride if you buy it first, but then you're relying on their honesty to let you out of a contract if you dont like it...yeah right.