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Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 03, 2003, 12:22:26 AM
:? If you've read the other post regarding frankenbike, you know the story. heres another one. when i took it out after work tonight, in 1st, accelerating, i decided to open her up a bit. frankenbike liked that. tried to do a roll on wheelie (i backed off the gas!)in second, accelerated hard like in 1st, but w/o the roll-on. is this thing supposed to have that much spunk?, i am 5'11" 165lbs. frankenbikes never been touched internally (stock). except for the carb cleaning i gave it. gotta change plugs though. i think they are somewhat fouled. i put them in day 1 (6 mos. ago) when i had carb probs. the plugs are really not an issue much, but 6 month old gas, may have something to do with the occasional moodiness it gets when i fire it up cold. but when she warms up WHOA. that much fun should be illegal. after this long winded intro, heres the question. does anyone have any idea in the first three gears where the power band range is (rpm's) thanks for any explanations :thumb:  :cheers:
Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Jared on July 03, 2003, 06:31:52 AM
Well the gs really makes no power til it hits 3-4K RPMs...

Definitely drain that old gas out and get some new gas. New plugs wouldn't hurt either. Maybe clean the ones you have ( or clean them and keep as spares...).
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: fuzzymemory on July 03, 2003, 12:14:32 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki:? tried to do a roll on wheelie (i backed off the gas!)in second, accelerated hard like in 1st, but w/o the roll-on. is this thing supposed to have that much spunk?, i am 5'11" 165lbs. frankenbikes never been touched internally (stock).
You are going to have a seriously hard time doing roll-on wheelies on a stock GS500.  Even with some power-mods, the bike just isn't strong enough to do it w/o clutch work.  I'll let others on the board answer about doing clutch wheelies.  Also, ask Srinah about rejetting to help with warm-up time.


Quoteafter this long winded intro, heres the question. does anyone have any idea in the first three gears where the power band range is (rpm's) thanks for any explanations

Since the bike uses the same engine for gears 1-6, the answer for 1-3 applies to 4-6, too.  The GS starts to make power just above 3000 rpm and the meat of the powerband (ie fun zone) is above 7500 and starts to dip a little before the redline so you will want to short-shift before hitting the rev limiter.
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Black Snowman on July 03, 2003, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: fuzzymemorySince the bike uses the same engine for gears 1-6, the answer for 1-3 applies to 4-6, too.  The GS starts to make power just above 3000 rpm and the meat of the powerband (ie fun zone) is above 7500 and starts to dip a little before the redline so you will want to short-shift before hitting the rev limiter.

The simple answer is 7500-10000 RPM
and the GS doesn't have an actually rev limiter. The valves just start floating around 11k RPM which sort of puts a damper on things ;)
Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: JohnNS on July 03, 2003, 01:13:56 PM
QuoteThe simple answer is 7500-10000 RPM
and the GS doesn't have an actually rev limiter. The valves just start floating around 11k RPM which sort of puts a damper on things

Why do I get the feeling you do this often?   :thumb:     :)
Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Pkaaso on July 03, 2003, 02:23:17 PM
Fussy,  you mentioned "Clutch work" what kind of mod is available for the clutch.  I have replaced disks and springs, but I feel the clutch still may slip ever so slightly when above 5 or 6 K.

Thanks,
Paul
Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Rashad on July 03, 2003, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: PkaasoFussy,  you mentioned "Clutch work" what kind of mod is available for the clutch.  I have replaced disks and springs, but I feel the clutch still may slip ever so slightly when above 5 or 6 K.

Thanks,
Paul

He means working the clutch.. ie, pulling it in revving, and then dropping it... which will result in a wheelie.
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: pantablo on July 03, 2003, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: Black Snowman
...The valves just start floating around 11k RPM which sort of puts a damper on things ;)


so that's what that sound is...
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Rashad on July 03, 2003, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: pantablo
Quote from: Black Snowman
...The valves just start floating around 11k RPM which sort of puts a damper on things ;)


so that's what that sound is...

Ive never heard that sound from my GS...  8)

Of course, thats because it wont GO ABOVE 8k... on a good day. :nana:
Title: frankenbike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 03, 2003, 11:57:43 PM
:o front wheel never actually lifted, but it looked like it was trying to. probably wouldn't have reading the specs for this bike, but the happy zone. :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: frankenbike loves it there, road again today to try that and WHOA had to go easy. 1 repairs not complete yet, 2. not registered. tag on it expired a year ago. just now got a helmet. so, i might be able to back road ride and not draw as much attention to myself. will have to take to local kwik-e-mart and gas it up. bout empty. taggin it mon. :cheers:
Title: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Blueknyt on July 04, 2003, 12:31:14 AM
Clutch Mod? ya want one?. i have one for ya, and its working like a camp so far.


simple, find an old GS450, pull out the clutch parts, save the springs, bolts and plates.  sort through the fibre plate, pull out about 6 of the best ones, or if you like buy new ones,(soak them in motor oil for 24hours before installing)  the IDEA, is to take an extra steel plate from the gs450 and use it as a spacer.  stagger stact the rest of the plates like you normaly would ending with a fiber plate then pressure plate. now, use the shorter gs450 springs and bolts,  tighten down normaly in star pattern and reinstall the cover, add oil ect ect

do this mod at own risks.  it works for me, im 6' 250 and it will grab
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on October 12, 2008, 02:33:34 AM
Ahhh just reminiscing  8)
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Skeets on October 12, 2008, 07:24:01 AM
Just a quick question.....When dumping the clutch to do a wheelie am I suppose to pull up on the handlebars? I can get the front up slightly but for only about 1 second.
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: ohgood on October 12, 2008, 08:26:54 AM
Quote from: Skeets on October 12, 2008, 07:24:01 AM
Just a quick question.....When dumping the clutch to do a wheelie am I suppose to pull up on the handlebars? I can get the front up slightly but for only about 1 second.

oh boy, hope you have heath insurance !

you want to feather the clutch, not dump it. if you feather it, you can get it up easily and controlled.

keep in mind it's only fun/cool the first few times, then it's stale. if you crash out your bike those first times, you don't get the use of it later on ;)
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Skeets on October 12, 2008, 11:35:55 AM
Well what I do is out 1 finger on the clutch go about 5 mph rev it up to 8000 let it out fast and then it goes up. Is that feathering or dumping IDK!
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Danny500 on October 12, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
Quote from: Skeets on October 12, 2008, 11:35:55 AM
Well what I do is out 1 finger on the clutch go about 5 mph rev it up to 8000 let it out fast and then it goes up. Is that feathering or dumping IDK!

I find my bike won't lift if I keep the speed that low... I have to be going at least 15 in 1st around 4k rpm, then pull, rev to about 8, 9ish and dump.. then bang.. up.

Slow wheelies scare me.   :icon_rolleyes:

Dan
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Skeets on October 12, 2008, 04:26:00 PM
My bike won't wheelie at that speed.
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: Teek on October 13, 2008, 11:24:26 PM
Mine wheelies just fine but I always just lean against the fence and watch it go by with my buddy on it when it does that...   :laugh:
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on October 13, 2008, 11:37:37 PM
lmao indeed, i subjected it to that, with friend being warned, if you break it you buy it  :thumb:
Title: Re: FRANKENBIKE'S GET UP AND GO.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on June 12, 2009, 03:32:16 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 03, 2003, 12:22:26 AM
:? If you've read the other post regarding frankenbike, you know the story. heres another one. when i took it out after work tonight, in 1st, accelerating, i decided to open her up a bit. frankenbike liked that. tried to do a roll on wheelie (i backed off the gas!)in second, accelerated hard like in 1st, but w/o the roll-on. is this thing supposed to have that much spunk?, i am 5'11" 165lbs. frankenbikes never been touched internally (stock). except for the carb cleaning i gave it. gotta change plugs though. i think they are somewhat fouled. i put them in day 1 (6 mos. ago) when i had carb probs. the plugs are really not an issue much, but 6 month old gas, may have something to do with the occasional moodiness it gets when i fire it up cold. but when she warms up WHOA. that much fun should be illegal. after this long winded intro, heres the question. does anyone have any idea in the first three gears where the power band range is (rpm's) thanks for any explanations :thumb:  :cheers:
damn ive lost that much weight?!? f%$k im south of 140 now lol