I was exactly ONE F*CKING block away from my house. I was slowing down for the red light. When I looked into the rearview mirrors, a car was coming a bit too fast. I decided to speed up a bit, but I wasn't fast enough. They hit me dead center of their bumper, so it just felt like a small-sized speedbump. I stopped in the middle of the road and watched them stop right behind me. When they stopped completely, I got of my bike and took off my helmet. I went to the driver's window and he started telling me to move the bike so "we" could both get out of the way of oncoming traffic. Sounded fishy, but I did... Not before I went to the back of his car and read his plates.
Sure enough, when I move my bike to the side of the road, he takes off through the red light. :mad: At this point, I have two options:
1. I have the plate #. I should go home and call the cops. After all, I'm only FOUR HOUSES away from home.
2. Follow the @$$hole.
Guess what... I followed him. He had a two block headstart in which he already took one turn, so when I caught up with him, he books it. Runs another red light and about 5 stop signs. Keep in mind I had taken off my helmet, so for half the "chase", I didn't have my helmet on. I also didn't want to push it, because I wasn't sure of the damage to the GS. So I was following him on 30mph roads at around 50mph.
Everytime he decided to take a turn, He gained a little lead, 'cause I didn't want to risk dumping it. Whenever he had a 2 block lead and took a turn, I decided to turn ASAP in the same direction and hope that I would encounter them on the next street. That happened about four times. So basically, I was "hunting" them, not chasing them. They didn't see me in the rearview mirror 'cause I wasn't there most of the time.
On the last three turns, I lost sight of them, but I was smelling a burning foul smell, and lots of white smoke, so I decided to follow those signs. I rode by the two guys walking, and I was pretty sure they were the assholes, but I didn't want to start anything.
1. I wasn't 100% sure they were them
2. I was alone. They were 2. Odds were against me if they fought.
I pulled up to the car (which still had the keys inside. They had hit a curb and busted their fog light (driver side) and driver side front tire busted too. The tire was rubbing against the wheel well, so that created the "bread-crumbs" for me to follow.
I called the cops... They took a report... They searched the car... They had sad car towed. But they couldn't find the assholes.
That's ok though... The cops found their registration along with the guy's work schedule. They also found a bank envelope with some $$$. I asked if I could keep the $$$ for repairs, but I knew they couldn't do that. I should have searched the car before the cops got there.
I went back home, and decided to walk out to the intersection where the HIT & RUN happened. I wanted to see if I could find any of the bolts that fell from my rear fender. Instead, I found the front license plate from the car. WOOT!
I took pictures of the damage and the plate. The damage was contained mainly to the rear fender. I think I can attribute that to Ken selling me his Kat shock.
Wow dude :o, glad your ok.
The cops have their car now so hopefully they'll catch up with the a$$holes & justice will be served.
I have to call the police station and find out tomorrow if they caught the assholes. I also wanna go get a copy of the police report on Tuesday
Pics soon. I don't feel like going downstair to get the camera
Here's a picture of the melted plastic from the @$$hole's plate holder.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9705/copyofimg0418hc0.jpg)
This shot is of the plate being pushed upwards. Right under the taillight is the KNIGHTRIDER lights. Those are supposed to be showing fully. Also the rear reflector is broken too.
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/695/copyofimg0419kp1.jpg)
Here's the right-sde rear shot. You can see the severed plate-bolt wire. Also, notice the angle of the rear reflector under the plate.
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2221/copyofimg0420pn2.jpg)
Here's a pic of the left-rear side. BOTH plate bolt wires were severed when the fender was pushed upward.
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4855/copyofimg0421ex0.jpg)
Another tire shot.
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/939/copyofimg0422ix1.jpg)
This one's a closeup of the tire. Same side. I just wanted to get a closer shot of the paint chip on the rim. This means more $$$ from his insurance company. :thumb: A brand new rim from the dealer is gonna cost $450.
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3184/copyofimg0424gp1.jpg)
Under shot of the fender. The two bolts holding the fender on the sides are missing. Also the left side rear reflector is crooked.
(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9554/copyofimg0425mb3.jpg)
Here's a total under shot.
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3317/copyofimg0426yb0.jpg)
glad they at least stopped initially-could have been bad had they not stopped at all.
Well. They kinda HAD to stop. There was another car beside us, so they couldn't really swerve around me.
Here's a crappy shot of the license plate I picked off the ground.
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3350/copyofimg0427ff0.jpg)
Here's a closeup of the rubber rubbing off from my tire.
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3572/copyofimg0428da8.jpg)
If the car wasn't originally stolen the idiots driving will probably call it in as stolen. You actually witnessed who was driving so they'd have a hard time getting out of that.
I hope they fry.... :mad:
Wow.. thats friggin crazy.. I hate hit and run asshats..
I had the same deal in my cage before..He hit me, we talked for a min... he took off.. I followed him... cought him.. called the police and the cops did nothing to him :flipoff:
Atleast they let me slide for busting out his drivers side window and snatching his keys so he couldnt run again :thumb:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on October 07, 2006, 07:40:02 PM
Wow.. thats friggin crazy.. I hate hit and run asshats..
I had the same deal in my cage before..He hit me, we talked for a min... he took off.. I followed him... cought him.. called the police and the cops did nothing to him :flipoff:
Atleast they let me slide for busting out his drivers side window and snatching his keys so he couldnt run again :thumb:
I'm a magnet for shitheads like this. two years ago, when I got my current cage, I had the car for only a couple days. I was going through an intersection, when the other kid ran the red light and hit my car in the left rear tire. I spun around 180 degrees. When I came to a stop, I was facing him directly. He was stopped too, but the fucker decided to drive off.
I was so pissed about him running off, I decided to drive after them long enough to get the plate. The bad part was that I couldn't get the stupid phone to co-operate because my hands were shaking so bad. About two blocks away, the girl in the passenger seat convinced him to pull over (I found this info out afterwards). He pulled into a parking garage entrance, and stopped in front of the lowered gate. I pulled up right behind him, close enough where he couldn't back up.
Cop didn't do anything except write the report and give him a ticket.
Regarding the GS, I'm going to my insurance company on Tuesday and reporting it to them. I'm gonna squeeze this situation for as much $$$ as I can. I'll show them where the rim has a tiny chip, the fender, the tire has all that crap, LED license plate bolts, reflectors, and anything else I can find. The muffler has a small scuff, but that one's BARELY visible. I don't wanna show them TOO MUCH. Otherwise, the insurance companies will declare it totaled and take it away and pay me for it. I wouldn't mind the $$$, but it's not enough to get a new bike.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 07, 2006, 09:31:55 PM
Cop didn't do anything except write the report and give him a ticket.
see now, thats TX for you. In CA that would be hit and run, and not just a ticket. I think leaving the scene of an accident is a felony.
Quote from: pantablo on October 07, 2006, 09:34:04 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 07, 2006, 09:31:55 PM
Cop didn't do anything except write the report and give him a ticket.
see now, thats TX for you. In CA that would be hit and run, and not just a ticket. I think leaving the scene of an accident is a felony.
I'm not sure where you got TX from... I can understand that the abbriviations both only have TWO letter, so that's a bit confusing for some... But they're not even close...
It is "M" and an "A".
Put them together?
"MA"
The begining of "MANURE"
"MA" - "NEWER"
Two very good words.
sorry I think I got you mixed up with Alpha...
HOW DARE YOU!!!!
I'm sure Alpha doesn't want to be confused with ME...
:laugh:
Sorry to hear about your accident, man. Glad you're not hurt... You aren't hurt, are you?
I hope they get that guy and his buddy. Like pandy said, assholes like that deserve to fry!
I wasn't hurt luckily.
That makes the score:
An - 2
Gravity - 0
I've got two because of the pothole and now this.
Dude I was freaking out reading your first post. In true An fashion, I was waiting for the "just kidding!" at the bottom of the post.
Glad you are okay!!! Holy crap! I was seriously getting tingly reading that!!!
(going to go pour a drink and relax...)
-Turd.
An; your having the worst luck lately. No action x hit and run= Damnit to hell! :2guns:
Glad your okay
O0
Thankz Turd, Average, and everyone else.
I've been thinking... I should have kept the asshat's plate. As a momento. :dunno_white:
An, that story KICKS ASS. Should be a bit relieved knowing that they lost more than you did? heh.. Glad you/GS didn't suffer much.
cheers
Thankz Jeff. I knew people would like that story. Too bad it's non-fiction.
Wow An glad you were not hurt, bikes can be fixed. Sometimes people can't.
Don't forget to get money for rim tape if you get a new rim
I forgot about that.
Thankz Dave. :thumb:
An, dude seriously glad to hear you are alright.
With my temper I'm not sure what i would have done.
(Yeah i know I'ma get a lecture for this one, but guess what i already know so save yourself some fustration.)
Oh man, that sounds like $50,000 in damage ... atleast we'll all swear up and down that it needs serious fabrication and GMD computrack type work for fixing it the way it was from the factory.
Now weren't you feeling a wobbly front end too ... that calls for a GSXR FE ...
Nice job though ... visit them in jail, with their car ... be nice, get them cookies bought with their $$$ and lace it with dog shaZam! ... you know ... be nice.
Cool.
Srinath.
I've been thinking, and I wanna go down to the police station and press charges. Anyone know what I can press charges for?
say ur necks been bothering u since the accident. :laugh: :thumb:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 08, 2006, 07:39:15 AM
I've been thinking, and I wanna go down to the police station and press charges. Anyone know what I can press charges for?
To bad stupidity isn't a crime! Glad your ok!
they'll get leaving the scene of an accident x2
Hit and Run
and whatever else the police can think of.
Damn dude.. that blows.. Hope you get your money and then some from those a$$holes. :mad: :mad:
I called the police station a bit late today... Around 4pm. They had just left, so I need to call tomorrow to find out if the jerk was found and arrested yet. Then on Tuesday, I have to submit the pictures of the damage to my insurance company.
Glad you're allright.
Bump. Did you call the cops? Update!
I'd have kicked their asses. Who cares if there's two...ride the first one down and clobber the second in confusion. Then steal their clothes.
Call the cops.
Why mak; you 're so violent (sipping tea) :laugh: :laugh:
What can I say...I'd have looked at how the law would basically slap them on the wrist and said f%$k it.
At any rate;An, I hope the f*^&ers fry. O0
Hi (modified for poster's correct gender) An,
I'm glad you are unhurt after this craziness.
I look forward to hearing that the cops have found and charged the idiot responsible.
At the same time, you are VERY lucky that:
1) Your bike's damage is relatively minor -- I wouldn't think that the paint chip on the rim is something that happened here (it probably happened when the tires were mounted). Because of that, I really hope you don't expect insurance to cover a paint chip on the rim by replacing it. Touch it up and be glad that the rim and YOU weren't more seriously damaged.
2) The idiot who hit you didn't turn his car around and go after you. You had the smarts to get his license number, at that point let the police handle it. Which is what you did, but next time, fight the urge to be Superman (modified for poster's gender). It can be dangerous. I wouldn't want anything else bad to happen to you.
Let us know how this goes.
All of the damage to your bike is relatively easy and cheap to fix. No body work, nor damage to you. A good thing.
Let's all be careful out there.
Yours,
Todd
yeah ANNA, I hope that you're okay :laugh: (he said Anna) O0
^BEST POST EVAR!!! :laugh: :laugh:
You did good ANNA!!! :laugh: :laugh:
...stupid average all postin faster than me an shaZam!...
dude... if An was Anna.... he'd totally be getting laid.
shaZam!... I'd do her.
Quote from: TragicImage on October 09, 2006, 02:10:35 PMshaZam!... I'd do her.
You'd even drive to Texas for it! :laugh:
(For those that don't get it... Reference to another post about *someone* being from Texas).
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 09, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
I'd have kicked their asses. Who cares if there's two...ride the first one down and clobber the second in confusion.
+1
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 09, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Then steal their clothes.
:laugh: :laugh:
Glad your OK. You are sooo lucky you weren't seriously hurt.
First thing i thought as i read this was that the car was stolen. Hope this ain't the case.
I'd hunt them down, bring them home, bend them over & cement there hands & feet in a block of concrete & then use there butt cracks to park my bike every night.
You want to ram ME up the rear...
UPDATE: I called the police station today.
I again called at the wrong time. The officer that was manning the station was not normally in the Traffic Beaureau (sp?). He did try to help me as much as possible. He finally found the police report from my incident. All the information is there (insurance details and such), but he didn't know where to look to find out if the @$$hole was caught yet. He did print a copy of me, and I just have to go and pick it up tomorrow (I was working until 4:30 and they close shop at 4pm).
Cool, atleast soem progress was made in the matter......Anna! :laugh:
Quote from: Trwhouse on October 09, 2006, 01:13:34 PM
Hi Ann,
I'm glad you are unhurt after this craziness.
I look forward to hearing that the cops have found and charged the idiot responsible.
At the same time, you are VERY lucky that:
1) Your bike's damage is relatively minor -- I wouldn't think that the paint chip on the rim is something that happened here (it probably happened when the tires were mounted). Because of that, I really hope you don't expect insurance to cover a paint chip on the rim by replacing it. Touch it up and be glad that the rim and YOU weren't more seriously damaged.
2) The idiot who hit you didn't turn his car around and go after you. You had the smarts to get his license number, at that point let the police handle it. Which is what you did, but next time, fight the urge to be Superwoman. It can be dangerous. I wouldn't want anything else bad to happen to you.
Let us know how this goes.
All of the damage to your bike is relatively easy and cheap to fix. No body work, nor damage to you. A good thing.
Let's all be careful out there.
Yours,
Todd
Since you're the first one to make this mistake in this thread... I'm quoting you. Just because...
I'm a man. Uh...
Unless that's what my parents told me... If men have this dangling thing and a bag between their legs, then I'm a man. :laugh:
Anyway... About the rim... I mentioned my car accident regarding my cage. The rim had NO structural damage; only minor scuffs.
They replaced the rim for me. They also replace the rubber. Both didn't have to be replaced, but they did. Mainly because it wasn't like that before.
My rim COULD HAVE been affected like that. If you look at the pictures of the marks on the tires, you'll notice that the marks are on the outer edge of the tire... Not the middle (center) part. THAT doesn't make any sense, but there are marks on BOTH sides of the tire.
Speaking of the tire... I've been riding since, and some of the marks have dissappeared. I'm glad I took pictures first. Most of the marks are stil there though, so when I visit my insurance agent, they will still be able to take pictures.
Quote from: average on October 09, 2006, 06:22:13 PM
Cool, atleast soem progress was made in the matter......Anna! :laugh:
My name is "An". The "A" is the same sound as in "DAWN"...
You f*cking f*cker. :laugh:
:laugh: Just giving you a hard time,dude. :laugh:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 09, 2006, 06:26:26 PM
I'm a man. Uh... Unless that's what my parents told me... If men have this dangling thing and a bag between their legs, then I'm a man. :laugh:
Perhaps this confused him: Has puny, sticky gonads
:laugh:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 09, 2006, 06:20:25 PM
(I was working until 4:30 and they close shop at 4pm).
Note to self: If I decide to commit a crime in Chicopee, do it
after 4pm.
Quote from: MrDan on October 09, 2006, 08:21:08 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 09, 2006, 06:20:25 PM
(I was working until 4:30 and they close shop at 4pm).
Note to self: If I decide to commit a crime in Chicopee, do it after 4pm.
The TRAFFIC BEAUREAU closes at 4. the station still stays open. It's probably like that everywhere.
\
yeah ... so i'm 0-2 making jokes tonight .. guess i should go to bed instead :flipoff: :laugh:
If I decide to piss on the Traffic Bureau's lawn, I'll do it after 4pm. Thanks for the tip Anna.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 09, 2006, 10:28:23 PM
If I decide to piss on the Traffic Bureau's lawn, I'll do it after 4pm. Thanks for the tip Anna.
:thumb:
That sucks! There are soo many f#@!ing idiots out there, I bet the car was stolen though, the guys were probably drunk too? You can always meet the true owner of the car and see if it's the same person though. People are lucky that I don't carry a gun...
I just got back from my trip to the police station and insurance agents.
The F*CKING @$$hole DOESN"T HAVE F*CKING INSURANCE ANYMORE!!! He cancelled his policy last month. I just went to a local repair shop and he listed all the things that were damaged and will call back when he has an estimate. I have to take him to small claims court. :mad:
I f*cking wish I searched that car before the cops got there. They took into evidence $697! :mad: That would have covered ALL the repairs and some.
I have to get ready for work, but when I get home tonight, I'll scan and post a copy of the police report.
No uninsured motorist insurance required there? I believe that's one of the things I'm required to have in VA. Have you talked to your insurance company yet? An accident that was not your fault should be taken care of without affecting your rate.
And if that guy was driving without insurance, he should be looking at major fines .. at least he would here.
Sucks man. Maybe you don't block out his name on the police report ... :icon_twisted:
Never remove your helmet, at least not until a situation is fully under control and a final stoppping point has been reached!!!! 1) If you have to and can give chase the helmet should be on 2) Don't ask how I know this but full gear although it slows you down in a fight softens blow's alot. And hard armored gloves do a number on other people. That helmet keeps you from having to worry about getting punched in the face or smacked in the back of the head.
Good job getting the plate number first though.
Small claims court isn't a problem...small taters. Find out if you can contact the the driver, though, prior to court. Tell him you will be suing him for the cost of court + the damage to the bike + a random amount for being an idiot...just don't tell him it's for being an idiot, say it's for "pain and suffering" or some stupid shaZam! like that. Charge them for a new rear wheel and anything else they "might" have touched...especially if they tweaked your frame...plastics, fenders, lights, etc. Put absolutely everything on there you can. I'd even go back to the shop you got an estimate at and tell them you'll want the wheel and stuff replaced and added to the estimate so you can send the guy a hard copy and what you'll be suing him for.
After that tell him that you're willing to setlle out of court for $700 or some similar amount, and that you'll drop the whole thing.
Whoa!! Small claims can be tricky depending on the state. VA is only $1000 (which is why I'm suing over a Townhouse rental). MA however ,.......
Quote from: MA Small Claims Court
Dollar Limit:: $2,000 (no limit for property damage caused by motor vehicles) Where To Sue: Where plaintiff or defendant resides or where defendant has regular business or is employed
Edit: Better link at the actual MA Gov page. (http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=ocaterminal&L=4&L0=Home&L1=Consumer&L2=Shopping%2c+Retail+%26+E-Commerce&L3=Resolve+a+Problem&sid=Eoca&b=terminalcontent&f=small_claims_court&csid=Eoca)
No limit for damage caused by motor vehicles, meaning he could take them for all they have.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 10, 2006, 10:06:34 AM
No limit for damage caused by motor vehicles, meaning he could take them for all they have.
Seems that way ... maybe Anna will have a new car :)
The shop I took it to this morning has done this A LOT. He was listing EVERYTHING. Even the chain guard and the grab rail. The left-side rear plastic has a "gouge" in the sticker, but he still put that in there. He looked over the bike REAL well (as well as can be without taking it apart though).
I was thnking of getting the quote and approaching the @$$hole or the @$$hole's mother and telling them basically what MAK had posted earlier. Show them the quote to fix EVERYTHING, and hopefully settle with at least $500-600 dollars. AT LEAST that much.
I'm gonna scan the police report now, so it should be up in a couple minutes.
And no... I'm not blocking the @$$hole's info. So send mail as much as you want.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/an1.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/an2.jpg)
:thumb:
Thankz for posting the images Yama. :thumb:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 10, 2006, 11:21:33 PM
Thankz for posting the images Yama. :thumb:
:laugh: You mean the poster formerly known as yamakadamit :laugh:
That report says you were riding a SUZIKI.
Poser!
Dave :cheers:
:laugh:
hey I hear Suzikis are f%$king pimp! Probably a perfect ride for anna.
What about 50/50?
Is Suziki somehow related to Zaziki? If so, YUM!
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 11, 2006, 05:04:24 AM
Quote from: My Name Is Dave on October 10, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
That report says you were riding a SUZIKI.
No it doesn't.
Yeah, it does. Put your glasses on, dude.
I've heard that the Suziki is just a cheap knockoff of the Suzuki.... An's a cheaper bastage than I thought! ??? :laugh: :kiss3:
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 11, 2006, 05:04:24 AM
Quote from: My Name Is Dave on October 10, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
That report says you were riding a SUZIKI.
No it doesn't.
Yeah, it does. Put your glasses on, dude.
I've heard that the Suziki is just a cheap knockoff of the Suzuki.... An's a cheaper bastage than I thought! ??? :laugh: :kiss3:
You are both right.
Quote from: My Name Is Dave on October 10, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
That report says you were riding a SUZIKI.
Poser!
Dave :cheers:
haha that is funny. One time I got a legal form back addressed to Justin Jussey, my real name is Justin Tussey.
Quote from: tussey on October 11, 2006, 11:21:21 AMI got a legal form back addressed to Justin Jussey
I renewed my license with the wrong name once... :laugh: I actually made it out the door, then looked at it again. :o
Quote from: RVertigo on October 11, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: tussey on October 11, 2006, 11:21:21 AMI got a legal form back addressed to Justin Jussey
I renewed my license with the wrong name once... :laugh: I actually made it out the door, then looked at it again. :o
My VA license had a picture of a 10 year old Korean boy on it. I was a little surprised since they hadn't taken my picture yet. The DMV guy was pissed. Then he forgot to give me my motorcycle endorsement .... I was there all day.
Bad luck that the car wasn't in his parent's name, or you would have had a lot better chance at getting cash out of this.
I wouldn't advocate vigilante justice if Mr. Sam can't pay up, but remember that patience is a virtue :).
isnt the parents liable for something someone does with their vehicle? i.e. letting someone use their vehicle? i know it is around here :dunno_white:
Quote from: MMO junkie on October 11, 2006, 03:05:06 PM
isnt the parents liable for something someone does with their vehicle? i.e. letting someone use their vehicle? i know it is around here :dunno_white:
Right, they can be legally. I was saying it's unlucky because if you look at the report both the driver and the owner are the guy. I guess he lives at home so that's how the mother was contacted.
Yeah...the driver's over 21, and the car's in his name only... His parents aren't likely liable for anything. I wonder what the cops are going to do to him... I hope they throw the book at him! :mad:
Quote from: LPC2104 on October 11, 2006, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 11, 2006, 05:04:24 AM
Quote from: My Name Is Dave on October 10, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
That report says you were riding a SUZIKI.
No it doesn't.
Yeah, it does. Put your glasses on, dude.
I've heard that the Suziki is just a cheap knockoff of the Suzuki.... An's a cheaper bastage than I thought! ??? :laugh: :kiss3:
You are both right.
Not really, I am right: it does say that he was riding a Suziki. It says later that it was a Suzuki, but my point remains. So saying it doesn't say that is incorrect. I am the champion of the interwebs!
Sorry Brian.
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 03:40:12 PM
I hope they throw the book at him! :mad:
I'd like to throw more than just a book at him.. :mad:
you know an, you could always ask if he has a sister, and if he does, work out some kind of deal :)
Quote from: zukiGS500 on October 11, 2006, 07:10:47 PM
you know an, you could always ask if he has a sister, and if he does, work out some kind of deal :)
No thankz. If he's that type of scumbag @$$hole, she's not any better.
That's why I decided NOT to attempt to deal with him or his family. Small claims court all the way.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 11, 2006, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: zukiGS500 on October 11, 2006, 07:10:47 PM
you know an, you could always ask if he has a sister, and if he does, work out some kind of deal :)
No thankz. If he's that type of scumbag @$$hole, she's not any better.
That's why I decided NOT to attempt to deal with him or his family. Small claims court all the way.
I'd HIGHLY recommend getting an attorney,. Makes the process much easier and will let him know you're serious. Also can go for Fees if you go District Court instead of Small Claims ... might be worth it.
UPDATE:
I had talked to a customer who comes in to where I work. He used to be an Assistant District Attorney. He recommended that I talk to the D.A. to find out if I can get some restitution when the D.A. charges him with the crimes.
I also got the quote for repairs from the local guy. It came up to a little more than $2200. That includes the minor scratches on the end of the exhaust. Did you know that the exhaust system from the dealer is a little more than $1050??? Holy Shite!!!
I'm happy though.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 16, 2006, 03:44:39 PM
Did you know that the exhaust system from the dealer is a little more than $1050??? Holy Shite!!!
I'm happy though.
WTF!!! I can get a whole exhaust for my car for that much easy!! and it would all be stainless!
I went to the police station again today, and they gave me an updated copy of the police report.
The new report has the citation and violations listed.
I'm trying to search for the details of the violation online, but they're most likely hit & run, and operating a m/v without insurance.
Here's the first violation:
Chapter 90, Section 24
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/90-24.htm
Here's the second violation
Chapter 90, Section 9
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/90-9.htm
Got a question. You take him to court. You win. But he has no money and nothing in his name. How do you get what you won in court?
I have never had to sue anybody or go to small claims court so I don 't know how that would work and am wondering.
The person's wages can be garnered in certain situations. No matter what side you are on, a lawsuit is never a pleasant experience.
Chilly
Quote from: blue05twin on October 19, 2006, 01:31:39 PM
Got a question. You take him to court. You win. But he has no money and nothing in his name. How do you get what you won in court?
I have never had to sue anybody or go to small claims court so I don 't know how that would work and am wondering.
I think you just get a simple "I won, you lost....so ha!" Good luck getting anything if they have nothing, it will take them forever to pay. I'm not sure of this whole situation with my parents, both grandparents, aunts, uncles, and many other people. But this guy sends us a check every once in a while for like 2 bucks, to help pay back the thousands and thousands of dollars he stole. We know we won't get it all back.
I believe that Small Claims Court is the "I win, you lose". If I were to take the jerk to small claims, when I win, he still could NOT pay me. At that point, I'd have to bring him to court AGAIN.
With a lawsuit, if I took that route, when I won, he would have to pay within a certain time and something like small payents or something.
I talked to a criminal clerk today at the courthouse... She told me that there would be a complaint filed against him next week. When that happens, I can contact the D.A. and talk about restitution for myself. I haven't gotten all the details about this yet, so I don't know how it works.
I think you should call Judge Joe Brown or Judge Judy.
Quote from: savagebeauty on October 19, 2006, 09:02:26 PM
I think you should call Judge Joe Brown or Judge Judy.
:laugh: yeah, i'd like to watch that one....sue them for sex with their wives/gf's!!
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 19, 2006, 08:33:00 PM
I talked to a criminal clerk today at the courthouse... She told me that there would be a complaint filed against him next week. When that happens, I can contact the D.A. and talk about restitution for myself. I haven't gotten all the details about this yet, so I don't know how it works.
good luck getting restitution...I got awarded $6000 restitution against a 19 yo punk that stole my 240z and totalled it in a police chase...you think I got anything?
Quote from: pantablo on October 19, 2006, 09:17:04 PM
good luck getting restitution...I got awarded $6000 restitution against a 19 yo punk that stole my 240z and totalled it in a police chase...you think I got anything?
What'd you do after that? Did you sue them or anything?
there was no way to get money. court already awarded me restitution so no need for lawsuit. guy had no money. I got nothing but my banged up car back. stripped all the go-fast parts and installed them on a second 240z. seriously out of pocket. I managed to find out where he lived and considered more, uh.. traditionally italian methods of 'restitution'...
Nice.
but now I'm scared of the DA restitution solution...
Years ago, my Nissan was clobbered by a drunken hit & run driver late at night. I managed to get her license number--which I gave to the police--and I thought she was in big, big trouble. Nope, she got off with a suspended license. :flipoff: A slap on the wrist would've hurt more.
Don't expect the DA to be your advocate. My car was totalled but they didn't even bother with restitution. All they cared about was adjudicating the case as quickly as possible (plea bargain) to make way for the next. :flipoff:
They even felt sorry for that piece of white trash the woman as she was a parttime cashier for a grocery store. I was unemployed and now carless but nobody asked about me. :flipoff:
I was given the opportunity to speak to the court prior to final sentencing but the lady judge cut me off when my anger rose to the surface. :flipoff:
My brother sued in small claims over damage to his wife's car (done by an uninsured driver). When they didn't pay, he was able to take the court's judgement and garnish (not garner, garnish ;) ) their wages. He could only get a little bit each time, and re-file each pay period, but he did get most of the money back. I gather it was a bit of work but he felt it was worth it to make them "pay," both figuratively and literally.
That was in Ohio, but I'm sure there's a process for it in good ol' MA. A bit of research might turn up the process, or you could contact a lawyer. But a lawyer will definitely cost money without a guarantee of a return.
Good luck; I'm rooting for you. Your story made me seethe and with bodily harm upon the other guy. I was imagining the scene from Big Lebowski where the guy with the corvette says "YOU HURT MY CAR, NOW I KILL YOUR CAR!!" and then you going midevil with a crowbar on that POS Nissan.
-David
Winning a settlement is only the beginning of the process once you have been awarded a settlement nothing is in place to make them pay and since you have already won you cant take them to court again. The award is a license to hunt at that point if they do not pay you may begin the process of garnishment, sale of debt to a debt collection agency,,,,,etc. all those nifty ways of collecting on a debt. My best advice is that you seek the services of an attorney who specializes in debt collection immediately upon not receiving any money. The beauty of collection is that as the cost of collecting the debt increases i.e. attorneys fees and garnishment filings they may be added to the original debt.
Quote from: dculberson on October 20, 2006, 08:14:12 AM
My brother sued in small claims over damage to his wife's car (done by an uninsured driver). When they didn't pay, he was able to take the court's judgement and garnish (not garner, garnish ;) ) their wages. He could only get a little bit each time, and re-file each pay period, but he did get most of the money back. I gather it was a bit of work but he felt it was worth it to make them "pay," both figuratively and literally.
That was in Ohio, but I'm sure there's a process for it in good ol' MA. A bit of research might turn up the process, or you could contact a lawyer. But a lawyer will definitely cost money without a guarantee of a return.
Good luck; I'm rooting for you. Your story made me seethe and with bodily harm upon the other guy. I was imagining the scene from Big Lebowski where the guy with the corvette says "YOU HURT MY CAR, NOW I KILL YOUR CAR!!" and then you going midevil with a crowbar on that POS Nissan.
-David
Man ... I thought I was the only one that saw the movie Big Lebowski ...
OK Fine I was the only one that enjoyed it ... OK fine.
The Private detective following the guy in that 62 VW beetle and the guy going "It kinda held the room together" ... and "the Chinaman peed on my rug" ... priceless.
Cool.
Srinath.
Thankz dude.
How would I go about garnishing wages after I win the settlement?
You use a bat or a small calibre weapon.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 22, 2006, 07:32:43 PM
You use a bat or a small calibre weapon.
I'd LOVE to, but I'm not that kind of person. :cry:
It's going to be hard to do any other way.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 22, 2006, 06:56:05 PM
Thankz dude.
How would I go about garnishing wages after I win the settlement?
I think you may be Able to Put a Lien on their Property too. :dunno_white: :dunno_white:If you Know the Details of everything you could make their Life a Living Hell.
if I understand it propperly only state funded official stuff can place liens on properties...you can't place a lien over anything not in your possession.
And garnishing wages isn't very easy. Forcing payment is impossible. This is why taking them to court isn't going to be much of anything.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 22, 2006, 07:38:13 PM
if I understand it propperly only state funded official stuff can place liens on properties...you can't place a lien over anything not in your possession.
And garnishing wages isn't very easy. Forcing payment is impossible. This is why taking them to court isn't going to be much of anything.
Actually, repair or contract work can often result in a temporary mechanics/contractors lien against the property. Not really the same thing, but if you have a judgement against someone, and they cannot pay, you should be able to go after their property (car/house/etc).
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 22, 2006, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 22, 2006, 07:32:43 PM
You use a bat or a small calibre weapon.
I'd LOVE to, but I'm not that kind of person. :cry:
Sucks. But I am. I need a roadtrip to get the hell outta here. Christmas break is coming up.
I went to the @$$hole's arrainment (sp) today. He originally was gonna plead guilty and pay 100% of the restitution, but when he was informed by the judge that we was going to loose his license, he said he wasn't informed of that and would like to plead innocent and hire a private lawyer.
The rescheduled court date is 12-05-06.
On another note... I can't remember here who brought this up (and I'm too lazy to go back through the past pages)... His g/f is really cute... :laugh: The bad part is that if she's with him, she is probably as immature as he is. No thankz.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on November 16, 2006, 04:17:59 PM
On another note... I can't remember here who brought this up (and I'm too lazy to go back through the past pages)... His g/f is really cute... :laugh: The bad part is that if she's with him, she is probably as immature as he is. No thankz.
Strewth mate you don't have to marry her, just get your pound of flesh (so to speak) out of her :thumb:
eh... one cannot know what one like that would carry in terms of diseases.
I'm thinking of going to the D.A. and asking them to kinda settle. Here's my idea:
Asswipe pays 100% of my restitution bill.
Asswipe doesn't need to pay for a blood-sucking lawyer
Asswipe instead pays an additional $365 to the MSF organization that I attended as a donation
I figure that since I paid $255 for the beginners and $110 for the expert, and because that saved my hide since they taught me how to survive... Asswipe can donate that amount to the organization to help other riders.
What do you guys think of this plan? Part of me wants him to go to jail (which is a possibility... not less than 6 months, not more than 5 years...) but if he does, my tax dollars will still be paying to feed Asswipe.
Don't worry About Diseases thats what Penicillin and Ajax is for. :thumb:
If you've ever been to a jail, even a medium security jail, you will know that your tax dollars will be going to making his time there suck. You hear stories about TV and Slumber parties but I can assure you, it's a depressing place.
You can always talk to the DA and ask them to apply a conditional sentence in terms of "pay the restitution to your victim by a certain date or else serve a comparable amount of time in jail". For some of these people that's enough to scare them into finding the money right away. In Canada they do that for deadbeat dads. Pay your child support by this date or else spend 5 days in jail. I once had to go and arrest a guy for not paying $3000 in back support payments. I showed up at the door, drove him to a bank machine and he used four bank cards to get the cash. THAT'S how much he didn't want to go to jail.
Other than that, using a debt collection agency is probably a great idea too. They will take a percentage of the winnings but they know the in's and out's of putting the thumb screws on to make him pay. ("Since you ain't got no collateral, we're gonna have to break one of your legs in advance!!")
I would also wait until the criminal trial is complete and dealt with. A conviction in criminal court will go MILES toward a successful win for you in civil court.
Oh, and in future. I would have called the police back and told them that you found the licence plate. They could claim that you had a memory issue in seeing the car at the accident location, but they can't contest the hard evidence of finding the plate there.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 07, 2006, 09:52:40 PM
HOW DARE YOU!!!!
I'm sure Alpha doesn't want to be confused with ME...
:laugh:
I just about snorted beer out my nose on that one(*). The funniest part is Pantablo being such a nice guy, and you calling him out on the embarrassing mistake.
:cheers:
(*)Belgian. NOT approved for use in nostrils, regardless of what the French say.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on October 07, 2006, 10:16:47 PM
Thankz Turd, Average, and everyone else.
I've been thinking... I should have kept the asshat's plate. As a momento. :dunno_white:
Someone unethical might take a beater, drive into a parked A8 at the county courthouse, and leave the plate at the scene.
Quote from: OhDot on November 18, 2006, 12:01:12 PM
If you've ever been to a jail, even a medium security jail, you will know that your tax dollars will be going to making his time there suck. You hear stories about TV and Slumber parties but I can assure you, it's a depressing place.
You can always talk to the DA and ask them to apply a conditional sentence in terms of "pay the restitution to your victim by a certain date or else serve a comparable amount of time in jail". For some of these people that's enough to scare them into finding the money right away. In Canada they do that for deadbeat dads. Pay your child support by this date or else spend 5 days in jail. I once had to go and arrest a guy for not paying $3000 in back support payments. I showed up at the door, drove him to a bank machine and he used four bank cards to get the cash. THAT'S how much he didn't want to go to jail.
Other than that, using a debt collection agency is probably a great idea too. They will take a percentage of the winnings but they know the in's and out's of putting the thumb screws on to make him pay. ("Since you ain't got no collateral, we're gonna have to break one of your legs in advance!!")
I would also wait until the criminal trial is complete and dealt with. A conviction in criminal court will go MILES toward a successful win for you in civil court.
Oh, and in future. I would have called the police back and told them that you found the licence plate. They could claim that you had a memory issue in seeing the car at the accident location, but they can't contest the hard evidence of finding the plate there.
I actually don't have to go to civil court at all. The Victim Witness Advocate at the DA's office will be getting my $$$ for me. I was thinking about bringing my idea to the DA, that way, they can kinda bargain with Asswipe...
DA: You pay all the restitution charges and make a donation to the MSF, and you won't loose your license.
Asswipe: What if I don't pay all the restitution and the donation?
DA: Then you loose your license and go to jail anywhere from 6 months to 5 years.
Asswipe: I'll pay everything.
DA: Thank you Asswipe.