Poll
Question:
GS500: Which do you prefer?
Option 1: Fairing
votes: 17
Option 2: No Fairing
votes: 39
Option 3: Both are good
votes: 2
Option 4: Who cares? Let's ride!
votes: 5
Which do you prefer and why?
Arrrrgggh....Can we add a third option? Both?
I really do like both.
I like the nekkid GS's due to my....erhm...propensity...for falling over... (but not since I lowered my SVS! :P) :icon_lol:
I like the faired models just because I liked fairings...I'm just not to the point where I trust myself with them yet. ;)
Naked bikes are hotter in my opinion, but it is nice to be able to go over 50mph without taking a huge beating.
Need a third option of naked with windscreen.
No fairing. Why? Because, then I can customize it the way I want it.
Because...
I can admire the engine, and the frame.
The ease of access for maintenance.
It attracts less wanted law-enforcement attention, and allows them to concentrate on better things.
It's less attractive to thieves.
It reminds me of when I used to ride my Triumph.
I can actually feel air though all the holes of my perforated leather suit.
Bug guts are easier to hide in the wiring harness.
Crosswinds don't affect me as much.
Fairings just make bikes look fat to me...
But, I love old UJMs... Mmmmm... H#nda CB400.... Suzuki GS1000.... Mmmmmm.....
Naked bikes look like real machines, not plastic alien spacecrafts.
I prefer my twins naked so guess what one I chose :icon_mrgreen:
All fully-faired bikes look alike. Plastic looks cheap. Plastic with decals looks like a cheap toy. Horrible thing to do to an honest machine.
Going naked is totally natural :thumb:
I have eaten way 2 many bugs. So with that out of the way i love my fairing but to each there own lets just enjoy the ride :cheers:
nakedness all the way
I like 'em naked, but thats probably because I have a '96 :icon_lol:
naked. i think they look a lot tougher
Well I am going to step out since no one else is.
I like the fairing. When I first was looking for a bike, I wanted a sport bike. Technically the GS is low on the list of real 'Sport' but I like mine.
I like it because:
It looks nice (Though it does stick out more than I like)
It is a bit warmer for me to hide behind the small windshield when it gets cooler.
You actually feel like you are washing something, when you clean it.
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 03:34:21 PM
Arrrrgggh....Can we add a third option? Both?
I really do like both.
I like falling over naked...
I like the models just because ...I'm just not to the point where I trust myself with them yet. ;)
so I heard...
you're missing the "who gives a f%$k" option.
Naked:
1. Wind and bugs are part of the experience.
2. Cold day? Reach down and put a glove to the engine!
3. Why hide an engine? Are you ashamed of it or something?
And BTW...
Who decided to put an air cooled engine in an enclosure....?
Quote from: CirclesCenter on October 11, 2006, 10:55:04 PM
And BTW...
Who decided to put an air cooled engine in an enclosure....?
The GSF is liquid cooled. Pay attention.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 11, 2006, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on October 11, 2006, 10:55:04 PM
And BTW...
Who decided to put an air cooled engine in an enclosure....?
The GSF is liquid cooled. Pay attention.
No it's talking about the GS500. Look at the topic.
You pay attention.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 11, 2006, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on October 11, 2006, 10:55:04 PM
And BTW...
Who decided to put an air cooled engine in an enclosure....?
The GSF is liquid cooled. Pay attention.
the gs500f is air cooled
You need to take a few minutes to actually go look at one...or maybe read some...before posting on this subject again.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 11, 2006, 11:02:10 PM
You need to take a few minutes to actually go look at one...or maybe read some...before posting on this subject again.
Umm no I don't Mr. GSF.
Air cooled.
Point me to a radiator on my 1990 and I'll gladly shut the f%$k up.
On your "90"? Your "90" is air cooled. No one said anything about the E. I said the "GSF"...and you won't find a radiator on a GSF, either...because GSF's aren't water cooled..
When Suzuki made the GS500F they had concerns over cooling...so they tapped the engine for oil supplies and drains and stuck a f%$king oil cooler under the steering head. You might not have known this, but that makes the bike liquid cooled.
~portion edited because it's open to debate...rest is fact.~
mak said LIQUID COOLED, not water cooled. he likes to play with the words, using a term not used to describe an OIL cooled engine. If manufacturers say OIL cooled, then thats what it is. Liquid cooled is usually used interchangeably with water cooled...
not in mak's world. oil cooled = liquid cooled. water cooled=water cooled. the F is oil/liquid cooled, just not water cooled.
got it?
(and Mak, the E's arent liquid cooled just because they have oil in them (the 2 strokes do too), the oil isnt used as a cooling agent in the E's, just as a lubricant. so technically they're air cooled.
I thought the E's used some trickery to regulate oil flow?
And I don't know of any 2-strokes that have oil running through the jug...and I know they don't have oil in the head.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 11, 2006, 11:12:31 PM
I thought the E's used some trickery to regulate oil flow?
:laugh:
trickery...gs500... :cookoo:
:laugh: :cheers: :laugh:
hey it's got those spiffy nifty valves and shaZam!...one can assume.
Yeah that was my point, sticking a air cooled motor into an enclosure necessitated the Oil cooling solution.
My E doesn't need it.
Hence why I prefer nakedness.
But under Mak's logic we could just say:
It's air cooled because it ingests cool air that cools the head...
Or it's gasoline cooled because the cool gas cools the combustion chamber...
Anyways I'm in a critical thinking class and I realize from all the "critical" shaZam! we do most of it is just splitting words down the middle because english is not specific enough.
Actually intake charges tend to be similar to carb/manifold temps...so no, not really.
Which are cooler than cylinder head temps....
I think....
But isn't that part of the reason you see those C02 kits for drag cars?
drag cars? no. That's for increased compression. Wetters on turbocharged cars are for cooling the intake charge...and increased compression.
I prefer the GS in naked form as I think the fairing kit looks like an afterthought (which it is) and doesn't quite suit the bike.
My answer would be both. Its sort of like Coke or Pepsi, or do you prefer Plain M&M's or Peanut M&M's, or some people say Cucumber's taste better Pickled. I believe that variety is the spice of life, and I like to switch things up because I tend to get tired of the same old things. And as we entered the era of Bling-Bling Suzuki had sort of come to realized this about the GS and designed a fairing in a way that was cost effective, and that would help appeal the "Ole GS" to a wider market, Suzuki only screwed up when they limited the GS too only the one USA "F" version , but we still continue to customize to our own individual tastes just as always, but to me naked, or faired, the GS will never really be a great street-fighter, or supersport bike, but only a great street capable bulletproof 487cc motorcycle that's easy to maintain, and easy to afford, and can still put a little smile on your face when you get the chance to crack open that throttle. The only thing that will probably hold true for all of us is that we like our bike's, because there ours...... :cheers:
well sed :cheers: i would love to have one of each and am looking for the naked body one now but i got the gsf brand new and i am very happey with it. btw i love this site but some do need to chill O0
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 12, 2006, 07:58:47 AM
Enjoy the use of your jaw while you can then.
w00t! Mr. Happy is on the loose again! :cookoo: :laugh:
Quote from: pantablo on October 11, 2006, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 03:34:21 PM
Arrrrgggh....Can we add a third option? Both? I really do like both. I like falling over naked... I like the models just because ...I'm just not to the point where I trust myself with them yet. ;)
so I heard...
And Pablo is living in his own little world.... :flipoff: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It all boils down to... there's something to be said for nekkid... and not... :icon_lol:
alpha you must be very unhappy bro' :mad: like you need a friend :icon_lol: it's ok buddy i'll be your friend :cheers:
Quote from: pandy on October 12, 2006, 08:14:26 AM
Quote from: pantablo on October 11, 2006, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: pandy on October 11, 2006, 03:34:21 PM
Arrrrgggh....Can we add a third option? Both? I really do like both. I like falling over naked... I like the models just because ...I'm just not to the point where I trust myself with them yet. ;)
so I heard...
And Pablo is living in his own little world.... :flipoff: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It all boils down to... there's something to be said for nekkid... and not... :icon_lol:
I'm a guy, its how I read what you wrote...8^)
Quote from: cafeboy on October 12, 2006, 08:50:33 AM
alpha you must be very unhappy bro' :mad: like you need a friend :icon_lol: it's ok buddy i'll be your friend :cheers:
You do realize that I can be a very happy person, yet still think you're an idiot, right?
You do realize that I can be a very happy person, yet still think you're an idiot, right?
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now thats not the way to make friend is it? oh and idiot well the quote under ypur name, well that tells it all :flipoff:
sorry hit the wrong key (quote under your name) :laugh:
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Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 12, 2006, 10:39:54 AM
You do realize that I can be a very happy person, yet still think you're an idiot, right?
If I wasn't trying to sell shaZam! in it I would have that quote in my sig.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 12, 2006, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 12, 2006, 10:39:54 AM
You do realize that I can be a very happy person, yet still think you're an idiot, right?
If I wasn't trying to sell shaZam! in it I would have that quote in my sig.
Done
minimalism has its advantages:
NO FAIRING REMOVAL TIME to do work = an advantage as quantities of time are valuable to me.
I like the wind, I like to fight it. Makes me feel like I earned my spot on the bike.
Less weight = go fast, in my head mostly as I rarely break the speed limit. My home grinder is on its 3rd disc this year. GRIND WHAT IS VISUALLY STUPID till it is acceptable then grind some more.
oh yea I suck at spelling and grammar.