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Title: Morals?
Post by: blue05twin on October 23, 2006, 09:21:20 PM
I bought a rim off of ebay paid for it the same day I won it.  Waited a month, never got the item.  Left 4 voice messages, 6 emails never got a response.

A month and a month and 5 days I got my money back through paypal.  And I thought that would be it.  Then today I got the item in the mail.   4 more days it would have been two months. 

I guess I should send him the money through paypal if I keep the rim or just refuse it through the postal service.

Or should I just keep it?

I'm leaning twoard paying for it.

On a good note I got throuh all 5 seasons of Smallville and seasons 1-3 of Lois and Clark the New Adventures of Superman.  and my wife will not be back for antoher 2 weeks.  Gotta go riding this weekend  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: dggraphics on October 23, 2006, 09:28:56 PM
That's awfully big of you, BUT... he never responded to you... play a little game with him:

1. Keep the rim.
2. Don't contact him
3. See if the jackass contacts you
4. If he does, make sure he leaves more than 5 voice mails and more than 6 e-mails to YOU. If not, then apparently he won't miss it.

Remember, you're still waiting on a response from HIM  :icon_lol: If he had morals, he would have contacted you by now.

The only negative would be if he jacked with your feedback...
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: pantablo on October 23, 2006, 10:38:37 PM
morally you should pay for the rim you received. Sure, he'sa prick for taking so long but you dont know why he took long. Maybe it was a family issue that took presedence? I would take the high road and give him the benefit of the doubt. You bought something from him that you received. You should pay him. I would deduct any costs you are out because of his timing, like additional paypal fees or whatever you might have incurred-but only actual incurred costs, not "made up" ones.
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: dggraphics on October 23, 2006, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: pantablo on October 23, 2006, 10:38:37 PM
morally you should pay for the rim you received. Sure, he'sa prick for taking so long but you dont know why he took long. Maybe it was a family issue that took presedence? I would take the high road and give him the benefit of the doubt. You bought something from him that you received. You should pay him. I would deduct any costs you are out because of his timing, like additional paypal fees or whatever you might have incurred-but only actual incurred costs, not "made up" ones.

You're right, but I still don't think it's right that the guy never even contacted him. Maybe that's why I might be such a jackass back, but you know, in all seriousness, you're right, paying minus incurred costs would be the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: annguyen1981 on October 23, 2006, 11:25:33 PM
I say pay the guy.  Who knows why he took so long.

I was just in a similar incident...  A guy in WA prepaid me to ship some software I get for almost free.  He knows I can only get one or two at a time.  Anyway, He prepays for 7 pieces, but after a month and a half, I can only get six.  I emailed him twice about what he wants to do...  I could keep the money and send the last software whenever I get it (could be a couple months) or I could just refund him the $90 he paid for the last piece.

I waited almost three months for a reply (ok... ok...  I got busy with life).  I emailed him again three days ago, and he responded requesting that I refund him.  He gave me a paypal address and I promptly refunded his money that same day.

I feel better about it now.

Yes, your seller could be a dork, but like Pablo said, you could be the bigger man. :thumb:

Although, I could use a rim... :laugh:  j/k
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: pantablo on October 23, 2006, 11:27:35 PM
Quote from: dggraphics on October 23, 2006, 10:51:07 PM
...but I still don't think it's right that the guy never even contacted him.
there's no denying that!
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: Jarrett on October 24, 2006, 12:03:46 AM
Pay the money.  Don't be greedy or selfish.  I learned this lesson when I was really young.  I was out fishing at this remote spot and my wallet fell out my pocket.  Had about $10 in it.  Some random person found it in the rocks, called the school on my student ID, got my address and mailed it to me with the $10 still inside.  I was blown away.  He easily could have taken the $10 and chuncked the wallet in the water.  What goes around, comes around.
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: makenzie71 on October 24, 2006, 12:11:15 AM
Problems I've face n ebay have been primarilly over users not having an accurate email address...so they don't get messages.  Dunno about the phone thing, though.

My policy is that if I take an excessive amount of time to ship a normal item, the cost of shipping is refunded wihtout awaiting request for compensation.  So in your situation, that's what I would charge...send him the balance minus what he charged you for shipping and handling.

Where did the wheel come from?
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: blue05twin on October 24, 2006, 07:04:53 AM
Wheel came from Texas, only paid 78 dollars for the rim with the rotor and sprocket came off a 04, rear tire barly has any wear on it but senes I don't know the age of the tire I'm gonna replace it.

I'll send him an email asking where he wants me to send the payment, sense I won't get a response I'll wait till Monday and send the money anyway  :laugh:

Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: The Buddha on October 24, 2006, 07:37:36 AM
That is now the rim of sin.
OK this is what you do ...
Send me the rim. I will then dissolve your sins in the water of the ganges by washing that rim off the sin.
There is a small charge for that ... but I have some of that water sitting in my house.
OK we square - OK send me paypal and the rim.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: Chilly Willy on October 24, 2006, 08:38:32 AM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: scottpA_GS on October 24, 2006, 09:47:32 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on October 24, 2006, 07:37:36 AM
That is now the rim of sin.
OK this is what you do ...
Send me the rim. I will then dissolve your sins in the water of the ganges by washing that rim off the sin.
There is a small charge for that ... but I have some of that water sitting in my house.
OK we square - OK send me paypal and the rim.
Cool.
Srinath.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:cheers:
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 24, 2006, 10:41:10 AM
Congrats on the new rim Dave!
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: dggraphics on October 24, 2006, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on October 24, 2006, 07:37:36 AM
That is now the rim of sin.
OK this is what you do ...
Send me the rim. I will then dissolve your sins in the water of the ganges by washing that rim off the sin.
There is a small charge for that ... but I have some of that water sitting in my house.
OK we square - OK send me paypal and the rim.
Cool.
Srinath.

You got me fuckin rollin. That's some off the wall shaZam!.  :bowdown:  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: rob1bike on October 24, 2006, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: pantablo on October 23, 2006, 10:38:37 PM
morally you should pay for the rim you received. Sure, he'sa prick for taking so long but you dont know why he took long. Maybe it was a family issue that took presedence? I would take the high road and give him the benefit of the doubt. You bought something from him that you received. You should pay him. I would deduct any costs you are out because of his timing, like additional paypal fees or whatever you might have incurred-but only actual incurred costs, not "made up" ones.
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Title: Re: Morals?
Post by: dggraphics on October 24, 2006, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: rob1bike on October 24, 2006, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: pantablo on October 23, 2006, 10:38:37 PM
morally you should pay for the rim you received. Sure, he'sa prick for taking so long but you dont know why he took long. Maybe it was a family issue that took presedence? I would take the high road and give him the benefit of the doubt. You bought something from him that you received. You should pay him. I would deduct any costs you are out because of his timing, like additional paypal fees or whatever you might have incurred-but only actual incurred costs, not "made up" ones.
+1

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