Got on bike today, rode it to a frame specialist to see about the triple/fork issue. Anyway, my 04 turnsignals are not working, none of them. I hit the switch, nothing on the dash nor the blinkers does anything. Any suggestions?
FIrst, check the bulbs. It's unlikely that all 4 are bad, but....
Then, try the flasher. Probably the most likely culprit.
If that's not it, then check the switch.
Bypass the flasher unit and flick the switch between left and right, if both front and rear indicator lights come for each side the flasher unit is shagged. If they dont chances are its the switch.
there is wiring diagrams in the wiki.
have a look
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=29002.0
Thanks! I'll check it out on my day off Wed. Thank you for the help.
BTW, the fork issue....the guy sat on my bike, then pulled it up to the corner of his shop, stopped, and then he turned the handlebars hard bouncing the wheel off the post. This was to move the forks back, which he said were probably just twisted b/c of triple tree misallignment. Anyway, he told me to take it down the road and check it out, which I did, and it seems almost perfect. Note I said almost perfect. Anyway, I have never heard or seen this trick so it was interesting, and free.
Isnt that what was suggested you try by several people in your last thread only hold the wheel between your knees??.....or am I thinking of another one.
Well we tried that, but this seemed to really work. It is all good now.
The signals, my manual was no help. I checked the 20A fuse and changed it out. I took the bike to the dealer and he said to chekc the fuse box. I cant find the fuse box nor what he called the blinker?
have you checked your blinker fluid levels? be sure to close the blinker before you top off.
Yeah funny. Seriously, the 20A fuse is now replaced, however it apparently was not the problem. Dealer said to check the fuse box, but it is not in the manual. I also would like to know where the blinker unit is. Maybe I'm calling it the wrong thing but he said it should be there somewhere under the seat.
Turn signal relay?
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There is no fuse box. There is a fuse.
What/where is the flasher?????????????
3imo, thank you for the chart, however I'm no good at P&ID stuff. We pull these things at work every now and then and I count on someone who is going to be doing the work to know what that is all about. Kinda funny but I go blank in about a millisecond looking at one. Maybe I should pay more attention to the training on that next time.
Can someone tell me where exactly on the bike to look next? Assuming everything is grounded, the bulbs are good, the bulb in the dash is good, and I know the 20A fuse is working, in what order and where do I need to check and how? I can have my bike mechanic over, but I can check whatever you may suggest first.
Forget the fuse, there is only one in the circuit, if it was blown nothing would work.
OK, what do you suggest? What is the flasher? Where do I check next? Is is possible if a wire is lose on one signal, the whole thing would be out? I'm wondering since I had the front off during the fork issue.
I suggest you find someone that can read a wiring diagram and check the wiring for the turnsignals from the picture supplied before.
Start with checking the connections in the headlight bucket, color codes for wires are on the diagram.
I have a 93 and my t/s relay was located on right side of bike behind plastics, near the fuse. I don't know if yours is in the same place but it is probably close.
Someone may find the pic from Kerry that shows it, I am terrible at searching myself or I would find it for you.
For MUCH more info search for turn signal relay, author Kerry. Should fin a lot.
Good luck.
Jim
Check this thread (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=10491.0) for a pic of the turn signal relay.
Simple turn signal relay test:
If you're satisfied that the wiring is ok you can test the ckt by jumping across the lt. blue and orange wires at the turn signal relay connector. Pull the relay and use a short piece of wire (paper clip?) to jump the wires, turn the ignition key switch on and actuate the turn signal switch to one side. The turn signal lamps and turn indicator lamp should all light steady. Check the other side the same way.
If they don't light up then the wiring is not right.
If they do light up then the relay is bad.
:cheers:
If I remember correctly the turn signal relay AKA the flasher unit is the rear most black box underneath the right hand side rear plastics.
I'd recommend checking it first using the method Jhon suggested.
Thanks guys, I will check today. First I have to go vote!
Quote from: middlem2 on November 07, 2006, 09:28:59 AM
Thanks guys, I will check today. First I have to go vote!
Yeah, good luck with that, being in Ohio....
Alrighty, I'm back from voting and I found a paperclip. What was that about voting in Ohio....I dont get it. FYI, we're going to ban smoking EVERYWHERE except in vehicles and at home today (I hope).
The lights do light, just dont blink. You guys are awesome! Thank you. Now, where (besides dealer) can I find a flasher, and / or is there an aftermarket flasher?
Picture is for future reference, if anyone wants to put it in an archive or something. Thanks again for the help, I'm half way there.
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Bikbandit.com has them for $20.11
fiche: TURNSIGNAL LAMP (GS500FK4)
16: RELAY ASSY,TURN 3015735-001 $20.11
I looked up an 04' model.
Dang, that is what the suzu dealership just quoted me at. I hate to do it, but I'll order through them. I had found a supplier (via the web) that had them for $7.00, but it was a $25 minimum order.
Quote from: middlem2 on November 07, 2006, 10:47:38 AM
Alrighty, I'm back from voting and I found a paperclip. What was that about voting in Ohio....I dont get it.
1. Remember last election when people were lined up for blocks?
2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15590530/
Quote from: middlem2 on November 07, 2006, 11:27:21 AM
Dang, that is what the suzu dealership just quoted me at. I hate to do it, but I'll order through them. I had found a supplier (via the web) that had them for $7.00, but it was a $25 minimum order.
What site was that? for those of us who do order lots of parts.
the web site was
www.delcity.net
their number is 1-800-654-4757
This election is big. If the dems win, we lose our gun rights. Smokers are in a corner in Ohio, gambling is on the table, etc. Yeah, BIG election.
Quote from: middlem2 on November 07, 2006, 12:03:12 PM
1. If the dems win, we lose our gun rights.
2. Smokers are in a corner in Ohio.
1. Huh?
2. Good for them.
The flasher is under the seat on the right side, a little black box, it has a small "belt clip" on it and it hooks into a little rubber mount on the subframe. It has two connectors on it which hook into a plastic end connector to two wires. I was having intermittent turn signal issues, and I went and got a "universal 2 blade flasher unit" from autozone. It was really cheap, as opposed to 20-30$ for the real thing. Works perfectly. Just bring in the old one and compare the ends to see if it will fit. It should be one that says universal, or for trailer/rv use or something like that because they don't care what load is on it, they will blink at a standard rate. You might need to figure out a way to attatch this new one though, because it won't have the belt clip.
Cool! I got to AutoZone before they closed. Will try it in a second.
FYI, no one can smoke anywhere except in their vehicle or at their home in Ohio (not sure about open air) ....the law passed!!!!!!!!!!!
It freaking worked! $2.50 instead of $20 at the dealership. I owe you a BIG thank you, actually I owe you all a big thanks. That worked out great. I snapped a pic of the one I bought, if anyone wants it for future ref. Yeah that's my bike, but my muffler is not that shiny really. Yellow rules!
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Quote from: middlem2 on November 07, 2006, 07:55:41 PM
FYI, no one can smoke anywhere except in their vehicle or at their home in Ohio (not sure about open air) ....the law passed!!!!!!!!!!!
Cool, I wish we had that strict of a law. Here, you can smoke in bars that aren't restaurants. That means I can't stand to be at what would otherwise be my favorite bar.
So, lost any gun rights yet?