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Title: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 02, 2006, 11:10:34 PM
(http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/11/30420371481.jpg) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3875288)

sorry, putfile sucks, it works for like 5 minutes, then it doesn't link anymore...
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: makenzie71 on November 02, 2006, 11:27:54 PM
yeah you suck at interlife.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Jughead on November 02, 2006, 11:57:54 PM
Quote from: porsche4786 on November 02, 2006, 11:10:34 PM
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sorry, putfile sucks, it works for like 5 minutes, then it doesn't link anymore...

I'd like to Shake their Hands. :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 03, 2006, 02:28:12 AM
Quote from: Jughead on November 02, 2006, 11:57:54 PM
Quote from: porsche4786 on November 02, 2006, 11:10:34 PM
(http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/11/30420371481.jpg) (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3875288)

sorry, putfile sucks, it works for like 5 minutes, then it doesn't link anymore...

I'd like to Shake their Hands. :thumb: :thumb:

Plus one to that!
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 03, 2006, 03:35:27 AM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: bravo bravo. ehh me thinks kerrys credibility took a serious nosedive  :laugh:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: animal mother on November 03, 2006, 06:23:28 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 03, 2006, 03:35:27 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: bravo bravo. ehh me thinks kerrys credibility took a serious nosedive  :laugh:

I agree!  :thumb:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Jughead on November 03, 2006, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?


OK what ever you want to think.That was His Explanation.Didn't sound like he Screwed up a Joke to me.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 09:17:55 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?

How was it a joke against bush? He never mentioned the word president, bush, george...so how was it supposed to even be a joke about bush?? Then I like how kerry said "I apologize to no one" later that day, or the next day or whatever....after he had just basically said that everybody fghting in iraq is an idiot. He could have simply said something like, that didn't come out right, or, I'm sorry, that's not what I meant.

I'd find and post his other stupid words...but I'm at work and have dial up so it takes too long
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ve4JoY5GA&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
Don't get me wrong, I think Kerry is an okay bloke.  Sadly, he says stuff that makes him come off like a heartless, stuck up prick.

In my opinion...he didn't screw up a Bush joke.  I think he honestly meant that if you don't study you'll end up a soldier.  What would possess him to say shaZam! like that is TOTALY beyond me.  And I friggin voted for the guy!

-T.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 09:44:48 AM
Kerry montage (this is a link to an mp3)
http://www.larslarson.com/LinksNStuff/LarsAudioFiles/Attachment_GetAttachment.aspx?id=6880&fd=0
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: cafeboy on November 03, 2006, 09:53:31 AM
to me kerry is the idiot he needs to be over there saying good job guys thank you not hey idiots.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 10:04:02 AM
I love it when any group on the blunt end of a low-bow can take it in stride and laugh about it. :thumb:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: 94suzuki500 on November 03, 2006, 10:56:22 AM
well I thought it was against george bush becuase didnt bush say that kerry should apologize to the troops for what he said, and then kerry said Bush should apologize for sending them?  if kerry was president he wouldnt have said anything like that at all, but since bush is president he said it because he doenst like bush, and that bush would send you if you were a soilder.  it doesnt make sense to say it was against the soilders but that it was against george bush for sending them, because kerry basically is saying that he wouldnt send them if he was president.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Mandres on November 03, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?

QFT.  Don't you just love how the Reps and Dems (and their associated media outlets) just latch onto any opportunity to attack each other this time of year?  The Reps used this little incident to segue into their "Democrats are soft on defense" rhetoric. 

Does anybody really think that Kerry meant that US troops are stupid?  Even if he believes that there is no way he would openly admit it.  He's still a Senator, and you don't get to where he is by publicly expressing unpopular opinions.  Kerry is far too smart to make a statement like that intentionally.

Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 11:33:05 AM
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CD-SC-KerryJoke.wmv
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: trumpetguy on November 03, 2006, 12:21:46 PM
Repugs are just trying to change the subject, since they have no solutions to the ongoing (and degenerating) chaos in Iraq. 

Here's the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kTnP5VJ1k

Maybe you can guess how I'll vote on Tuesday... :laugh:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: Mandres on November 03, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?

QFT.  Don't you just love how the Reps and Dems (and their associated media outlets) just latch onto any opportunity to attack each other this time of year?  The Reps used this little incident to segue into their "Democrats are soft on defense" rhetoric. 

Does anybody really think that Kerry meant that US troops are stupid?  Even if he believes that there is no way he would openly admit it.  He's still a Senator, and you don't get to where he is by publicly expressing unpopular opinions.  Kerry is far too smart to make a statement like that intentionally.



I don't know, if I were a soldier I would be super pissed about it. He didn't even really apologize! What a f%$king duck! If Bush had said this same thing I would be saying the same stuff...
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: skoebl on November 03, 2006, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: Mandres on November 03, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
QFT.  Don't you just love how the Reps and Dems (and their associated media outlets) just latch onto any opportunity to attack each other this time of year?  The Reps used this little incident to segue into their "Democrats are soft on defense" rhetoric. 

Does anybody really think that Kerry meant that US troops are stupid?  Even if he believes that there is no way he would openly admit it.  He's still a Senator, and you don't get to where he is by publicly expressing unpopular opinions.  Kerry is far too smart to make a statement like that intentionally.

Seeing as how he WAS a troop; I don't see how he could think like that.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pandy on November 03, 2006, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: Mandres on November 03, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
Don't you just love how the Reps and Dems (and their associated media outlets) just latch onto any opportunity to attack each other this time of year? 
Here's the whole explanation in one sentence! (But the sign the troops made is pretty funny, too!  :laugh:)
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: skoebl on November 03, 2006, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: Mandres on November 03, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
QFT.  Don't you just love how the Reps and Dems (and their associated media outlets) just latch onto any opportunity to attack each other this time of year?  The Reps used this little incident to segue into their "Democrats are soft on defense" rhetoric. 

Does anybody really think that Kerry meant that US troops are stupid?  Even if he believes that there is no way he would openly admit it.  He's still a Senator, and you don't get to where he is by publicly expressing unpopular opinions.  Kerry is far too smart to make a statement like that intentionally.

Seeing as how he WAS a troop; I don't see how he could think like that.

I do... He only joined for one reason, to further his political career.  He joined at the advice of his mentor, Teddy.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Grainbelt on November 03, 2006, 02:30:37 PM
troops from my (fairly liberal) home state of MN, giving kerry a hard time. Good stuff.  :cheers:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
I think he honestly meant that if you don't study you'll end up a soldier. What would possess him to say shaZam! like that is TOTALY beyond me.

-T.

what would possibly possess him to say something that is so true...I dont know.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 03, 2006, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
I think he honestly meant that if you don't study you'll end up a soldier. What would possess him to say shaZam! like that is TOTALY beyond me.

-T.

what would possibly possess him to say something that is so true...I dont know.

Whoa.. Pablo.. don't tell me you agree? You seriously think the military is an avenue for stupid people to make it in the world?

WTF. I'd like to think I'm a pretty smart kid... not bragging, but I was just shy of acing my SATs, graduated number 4 in a class of over 400 (of course, these are Florida schools, and we all know how dumb Floridians are.. :laugh:) I'm still seriously debating joining the Navy. A. I want to serve, feel like I accomplished something, do something for my country. B. Being an officer in the military greatly increases your likelihood of success in the private sector. C. I could use the money to help pay for college. Ya know, the #4 CompE school in the country, where I go, cuz I'm not dumb?

My dad was Air Farce.. he's seriously one of the smartest people I know.

My personal opinion is that that's a f%&ked up point of view...
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 03, 2006, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
I think he honestly meant that if you don't study you'll end up a soldier. What would possess him to say shaZam! like that is TOTALY beyond me.

-T.

what would possibly possess him to say something that is so true...I dont know.

Whoa.. Pablo.. don't tell me you agree? You seriously think the military is an avenue for stupid people to make it in the world?

WTF. I'd like to think I'm a pretty smart kid... not bragging, but I was just shy of acing my SATs, graduated number 4 in a class of over 400 (of course, these are Florida schools, and we all know how dumb Floridians are.. :laugh:) I'm still seriously debating joining the Navy. A. I want to serve, feel like I accomplished something, do something for my country. B. Being an officer in the military greatly increases your likelihood of success in the private sector. C. I could use the money to help pay for college. Ya know, the #4 CompE school in the country, where I go, cuz I'm not dumb?

My dad was Air Farce.. he's seriously one of the smartest people I know.

My personal opinion is that that's a f%$ked up point of view...

+1
Most of the people fighting for us over there are definitely NOT dumb/stupid.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 03:25:23 PM
you graduated #4 in a class of 400 and you don't have a college scholarship?
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 03:29:03 PM
you may not agree with my view on the matter, based on my personal experiences with armed forces but there it is. I do agree...

I am in no way saying that everyone in the military is stupid. thats ludicrous...However, I have seen how many guys (mostly) that dont have other alternatives, such as college, or otherwise career employment, will join in order to get that. For every brilliant Commander there are countless minions that toil away in the battlefield-many of them with less than stellar intelect.

Please dont take this as a personal attack. I mean no disrespect or insult to you personally but that is what I have witnessed myself, and that is what my opinion on the matter is based on. I respect those that choose military life or military service, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 03, 2006, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 03:25:23 PM
you graduated #4 in a class of 400 and you don't have a college scholarship?

Bah! I went out of state... If I'd stayed in the state of FL, I would be making roughly $1500 per semester in excess scholarships, working less, getting better grades, and seeing more attractive women. I would also, however, be hanging out with all the same people I went to high school with, and not branching out, which is what college is for. I'd also be getting a lesser education than I am now (IMHO).

At Tech, I'm paying for everything out of pocket. I worked construction all summer (80+ hours a week) to pay for this semester's tuition and a GS... looks like I'm taking a loan to pay for next semester's.. it's not so bad. I live in the fraternity house and am on a fraternity meal plan, so I pay 1/2 of what Tech housing/food would be.. and I took a year off to live/work in GA, so now I'm a resident, and only pay roughly $10K per year versus the $30K per year out of state would be...

Anyway.. Pablo.. I respect your right to have an opinion.. I just thought you were disrespecting our military men and women.. I will agree, not all are the brightest bulbs, but a good number are, I didn't think you were giving them the respect they deserve. If you're not being disrespectful, I have no problem with your opinion.




almost forgot, I maxed out my ASVAB too!

:laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pandy on November 03, 2006, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 03, 2006, 03:33:56 PM
I worked construction all summer (80+ hours a week)

AND PW'd? How in the WORLD did you ever MANAGE all that!? ??? ;)
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 02:07:09 PMHe only joined for one reason, to further his political career.
Totally why he got shot too...  He knew it would look good on his resume.

And, I'm sure that's why Bush went straight to Vietnam...  So, he could be president one day... Oh wait.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 03:54:14 PM
Yeah cause lots of rich kids go to war.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: BaoQingTian on November 03, 2006, 03:55:55 PM
Myth of the underprivileged soldier (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-27-soldier-edit_x.htm)

QuoteAccording to a comprehensive study of all enlistees for the years 1998-99 and 2003 that The Heritage Foundation just released, the typical recruit in the all-volunteer force is wealthier, more educated and more rural than the average 18- to 24-year-old citizen is. Indeed, for every two recruits coming from the poorest neighborhoods, there are three recruits coming from the richest neighborhoods.

In fact, since the 9/11 attacks, more volunteers have emerged from the middle and upper classes and fewer from the lowest-income groups. In 1999, both the highest fifth of the nation in income and the lowest fifth were slightly underrepresented among military volunteers. Since 2001, enlistments have increased in the top two-fifths of income levels but have decreased among the lowest fifth.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 04:07:30 PM
When my granddad was drafted for WW2 the drafting officer told him if he or the family paid 500 dollars he wouldn't have to go.  My Great-granddad didn't have 500 dollars so he went.  Many of his friends and peers didn't have to go because they paid.  True story. 

I'm sure this doesn't happen now, but it sure as hell used to.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: scottpA_GS on November 03, 2006, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Stephen072774 on November 03, 2006, 02:07:09 PMHe only joined for one reason, to further his political career.
Totally why he got shot too...  He knew it would look good on his resume.

And, I'm sure that's why Bush went straight to Vietnam...  So, he could be president one day... Oh wait.

Bush never went to Nam.. Is that what your are sayin? He joined the Air Guard so he wouldnt have to go.. Looser..


Anyway.. I was in the Airforce and I still like Kerry.. I think it was a joke gone wrong. As someone else said, he would have to be as dumb as Bush to make a real comment like that. Its just election time and you have to hear how so and so voted against feeding homless babies and voted to kill all the white people... Bla Bla... its all BULL   :bs:

I think more non military people are pissed about what he said than actual US troops  :thumb:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on November 03, 2006, 04:10:03 PMkill all the white people
:laugh:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 04:24:32 PM
Watching politics is like visiting this Zoo Exhibit:  Miami Metrozoo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/poop_exhibit).
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pandy on November 03, 2006, 04:36:51 PM
In his remarks in California on Monday, Mr. Kerry said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Mr. Kerry said that he botched a joke that his aides said had been prepared as follows: "Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/01/us/politics/01elect.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: 94suzuki500 on November 03, 2006, 04:49:48 PM
Is it true that kerry shot himself in the foot so he would get out of the military or at least for awhile.  Ive heard jokes about his purple heart award.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 05:10:11 PM
I heard he shot himself in the head so he'd be qualified to be president.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 05:39:57 PM
so thats how Bush got in....
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 09:17:55 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?

How was it a joke against bush? He never mentioned the word president, bush, george...so how was it supposed to even be a joke about bush?? Then I like how kerry said "I apologize to no one" later that day, or the next day or whatever....after he had just basically said that everybody fghting in iraq is an idiot. He could have simply said something like, that didn't come out right, or, I'm sorry, that's not what I meant.

I'd find and post his other stupid words...but I'm at work and have dial up so it takes too long
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ve4JoY5GA&mode=related&search=

Quote from: Jughead on November 03, 2006, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 06:14:26 AM
Seriously, he screwed up a "Bush is an idiot" joke.  What's the big f%$king deal?


OK what ever you want to think.That was His Explanation.Didn't sound like he Screwed up a Joke to me.

Hey, dumbasses, what do you think is meant by "screwed up?"  It wasn't a particularly funny joke, but it was a joke at Bush's expense nonetheless.  As Pandy pointed out,  "You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” is what was supposed to be said (emphasis on the omitted text). 

The only problem I have with what Kerry did is:

1.  That he tried to tell a joke in the first place. 
2.  That he told what would have been a bad joke, even if it went right.
3.  That he didn't immediately apologize for inadvertently insulting the troops when he explained what happened.

Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: scottpA_GS on November 03, 2006, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on November 03, 2006, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on November 03, 2006, 04:10:03 PMkill all the white people
:laugh:

Hehe...

I was thinking about that sketch on SNL .. I think it was Eddie Murphy..

We got to kill da white people.  :laugh:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Old Mr. Wilson on November 03, 2006, 07:49:28 PM
Yeah.........John Kerry. Such kindredness with the Common Man. $300 haircuts, $1000 alligator shoes, $1000 suits for each day of the month. Botox before photo ops. He's "just like one of us" aye? His handlers dressed him in camo and promoted him as a "duck hunter". That bastard doesn't know a duck from a dove. "Most" of his Viet-Brethren want to hang him.
Is George any better? Well................at least he hasn't wanted to take our guns from us "yet".

The main job of the news media is to convince all of you that there is a major difference between the two governing parties in the USA.  The "agenda" is carried out in a different manner.
Our (the workers) demise..........and that of our liberties...is a goal of both.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Old Mr. Wilson on November 03, 2006, 07:50:20 PM
Kill all the white people? Yeah........HA..........then who in the hell'd feed ya??????????
hahahahhahahahahah
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Old Mr. Wilson on November 03, 2006, 07:51:55 PM
Kerry? Hell, even the filthy stinking FRENCH supported his election! Their hearts were crushed!
Bless their hearts! :)
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: porsche4786 on November 03, 2006, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on November 03, 2006, 05:51:29 PM
3.  That he didn't immediately apologize for inadvertently insulting the troops when he explained what happened.

Well, remember how he said he apologizes to nobody? That sounds like an @$$hole of a thing to say. Then his apology was that we 'took it the wrong way'. Doesn't sound like an apology to me.... :dunno_white:
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: Old Mr. Wilson on November 03, 2006, 09:44:26 PM
Mr. Porche, "he" doesn't HAVE to apologize to the common man. He is of "kingship" lineage.
We are nothing more than serfs............to him. Our goals should be to "serve" him and his
"gold-digging" strumpet/wife.
Title: Re: troops talk back to kerry
Post by: pantablo on November 03, 2006, 11:05:28 PM
Quote from: Old Mr. Wilson on November 03, 2006, 07:49:28 PM
The main job of the news media is to convince all of you that there is a major difference between the two governing parties in the USA.  The "agenda" is carried out in a different manner.
Our (the workers) demise..........and that of our liberties...is a goal of both.


oh we are SO on the same page on that one...