I'm thinking of removing the muffler on my 2004 GS500F. Can anyone give me a good site or tell me some helpfull tips on how I can do this? The only reason Im doing it is because the other day I teaching my brother to ride it and when he got about 20 yards away, I could hardly hear the bike. I began to think that nobody on the road couldhear me, especially if they are in their cars with music on. Or if I'm just on the freeway. i would like to get a better exhaust, but cannot afford it right now. So taking out the muffler will have to do. I have research the sounds that the GS500 makes without the muffler and it doesnt sound to bad. So please, can someone tell me how I can take it out? Thanks.
Just drill holes in the end of the can.
When I installed my new exhaust, I fired up the bike with no muffler at all and revved it a few times. Ya have to, ya know? :thumb:
First, the not-so-obvious... This will most definitely decrease the drivability of the bike. You will lower exhaust gas velocity enough that the low-RPM scavenging will be severely affected. The bike will have even less low end power. You will also have to rejet the carbs due to it being severely lean.
Nextly, the obvious... The GS500 without a muffler is completely unbearable. The exhaust volume was enough to cause wrenches and miscellaneous things in my shop to vibrate off of tables 40 feet away. I'm not joking. I had on hearing protection and it was STILL loud enough to damage my hearing. I'm not joking.
It would be severely illegal and totally crazy.
-Turd.
You want loud? ... buy the V&H full system.. I took mine off cause it was too loud for me... The GS sounded like a Harley Davidson lawn mower :thumb:
Most 4cyl bikes sound better/cooler w/ after market pipes... IMO the GS sounds much worse with one :thumb:
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 07, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
Just drill holes in the end of the can.
+1 otherwise it's going to be to loud.
I think the GS sounds much better with an aftermarket exhaust. But then again I don't even remember what a stock exhaust sounds like anymore. I do remember being happy when I got my new exhaust put on, sounded much better to me.
this is the exhaust im thinking of for my new SV1000s...
holeshot.com
cheack out the videos, sounds... NIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCEE!!!
I have a Vance & Hines muffler system on my GS (came with it when I bought it). The shop that was trying to sell it said they had some takers but all said it was too loud. Since I never owned a motorcycle before and the only one I was around was my Uncle's Yamaha Roadstar (LOUD), I couldn't tell if it was loud or not. I like the sound as it sound like a chopper when at idle and then a sport bike whine at high RPMs. The pipe looks cool too. The only problem I have is that I have to unbolt the exhaust from the head to change the oil filter. You can pick one up for $270 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vance-Hines-SS-Exhaust-Suzuki-GS500-GS-500-GS500E_W0QQitemZ330047923143QQihZ014QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330047923143) on the bay. In the end, I'm not sure what the stock muffler sounded like but I do like the Vance & Hines.
The stock muffler sounds like this
[silence]
-Turd.
Hi kazokazo,
I hate to say this, but motorcycles don't have to be loud.
It is nice when they are quiet and don't offend the communities in which we all live.
In my 31 years of riding I must say, loud motorcycles are the enemy of all of us.
Loud exhausts DO NOT save lives.
Riding well and carefully, having loud HORNS (see earlier posts on installing LOUD HORNS to better protect yourself -- this is where you can make a difference) and always assuming that the idiots around you in their cars and trucks are trying to KILL you are the best ways to stay alive and enjoy our beloved sport.
Leave the quiet exhaust alone -- don't give your community another reason to hate motorcyclists.
I even hate motorcyclists with loud exhausts and I ride one.
Of course people will disagree with all of this, but they're talking nonsense.
Loud is not safer. It's just stupid.
That's similar to the idiotic argument that it's safer to ride without a helmet because helmets make it difficult to hear what the traffic around you is doing.
Another moronic myth.
Respect others in our communities and we can all gain respect.
Be careful out there.
Yours,
Todd
I set off one car alarm on average every time I ride my Duc. Makes me grin ear to ear. Its a simple pleasure, I'll admit, but I'm a simple fella.
-Turd.
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That's funny!!!
Yeah...that guy sounds even simpler than I! When rolling through our downtown area with lots of cars parked on the street, I'll usually set of one car alarm per block. My bike really isn't that loud, just extremely bassy.
-Turd.
Quote from: kazokazo50 on November 07, 2006, 01:16:55 PM
I'm thinking of removing the muffler on my 2004 GS500F. Can anyone give me a good site or tell me some helpfull tips on how I can do this? The only reason Im doing it is because the other day I teaching my brother to ride it and when he got about 20 yards away, I could hardly hear the bike. I began to think that nobody on the road couldhear me, especially if they are in their cars with music on. Or if I'm just on the freeway. i would like to get a better exhaust, but cannot afford it right now. So taking out the muffler will have to do. I have research the sounds that the GS500 makes without the muffler and it doesnt sound to bad. So please, can someone tell me how I can take it out? Thanks.
Don't. People with loud pipes are giant f%$king douchebags. You don't want to be a giant f%$king douchebag, do you?
I'm a giant effing d-bag and it feels great. My bike sounds like:
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/KSUDanimal/monster_flame_1.jpg)
And I love it.
-T.
I gotta say...I prefer the Ducati thumping sound over the GS' whatever it sounds like with a good Yosh pipe.
Definitely better tone from the Yosh than the stocker, but still not a big Italian twin.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna buy the ST2 off my dad. It's nice. I like.
S2R 800 or 1000? Either way, the S2R is an awesome bike.
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-Turd.
1) Making your bike louder may give you the misconception that more cars will notice you & you'll be safer on the road. Please don't be deceived.
2) This may cause you to let your guard down and be less alert, because you'll think cagers will actually notice you and not run you over.
3) I've had people look me in the eye & change lanes into me regardless. Always assume you're invisible!
I can't feel my toes... or the rest of my body.. hooray everclear... boo women... that is all
ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!
Buy an aftermarket pipe.... dont fool with you stock exhaust. If you start chopping up your stock stuff than you will be sorry. Your going to be buying a air filter and jets (jet kit) if you chop your stock exhaust. The bike will run brutal... even with aftermarket filter and jets you may still not get a solid running bike. Then you will need to buy an aftermarket exhaust cause your bike wont run with out one. So after all that time chopping the stock exhuast and wasting it you will still be at the stage of all new pipe, jets and filter. So dont waste your time and do it right is what im saying. Besides you can probably get a $100 - $200 for your stock pipe.
OHHH and for all of you who are against loud pipes..... you go ahead and run your stock pipes and see how long it takes before you hit that kid running after a ball, the senior citizen who steps off a side walk in front of you or that deer that dashes out of the woods, cause they cant hear your sissy sounding excuse for a motorcycle that they mistake for a mosquito.
LOUD PIPES DONT SAVE LIVES ????? Go post on the john deere website with all the other weed whackin, lawn fertilizing upper class bob villas that you think you are....
and if you think its not you and just your "neighbours" keeping you from having a sweet sounding bike... than push your bike out of your suburban paradise, fire it up and SAVE A LIFE!
Thank you.
Easy Barry. We're all friends here, there's no need to chime in and be rude.
Every study that I have seen has proven that "loud pipes" don't save lives. At any speed over 30 mph, nearly all of the sound from a loud exhaust system is not projected forwards enough to warn pedestrians or other motorists. Your observations may be different, I'm just reporting what I've read and what I believe.
-Turd.
Alllright.... well we seem to all believe in differences. But everyone who was saying loud is bad... is being just as pushy as i am. I dont care to convince anyone different but Ive seen it, heard it and experienced it. Ive stood outside and heard bikes headed towards me before i even seen them coming. Im guessing we are leaving it at ones personal opinion againnnnn. (ive always enjoyed reading heated debates on here, always had an opinion just never stated it, thought id try it out.)
Hahaha, good post. That was pretty funny.
Yeah, I deffinately know what you mean. I've heard many-a-bike coming down the street that is loud, so I suppose I do agree with you on the pedestrian issue for the most part. In a car with the radio on is a different story IMO. People don't hear jack when in their cage.
-Turd.
I have to agree that a louder pip does project more than a silent exhaust. People walking and animals will be alerted. Cars, well in my car with the radio or the ac on...your out of luck.
Just my opinion.
Plus loader exhaust sound cooler! :)
Quote from: gsbarry on November 12, 2006, 03:20:24 PM
if you chop your stock exhaust. The bike will run brutal... even with aftermarket filter and jets you may still not get a solid running bike.
Besides you can probably get a $100 - $200 for your stock pipe.
Why would the bike run poorly with an after market can??
Who would want to buy used stock pipes?? Ebay?
Loud pipes save lives :bs:
I just wanted to use the bs smily :)
If you actually read that sentence that you decided to highlight out it says: "If you chop your stock exhaust, the bike will run brutal... even with AFTERMARKET FILTER and JETS you may still not get a solid running bike". I dont see aftermarket can anywhere there :nono:. I go on in the rest of my post to say added an aftermarket pipe with a filter and jets will give you better results.
I just sold my stock can privately for $200......
Thats no :bs:
Have a good one!
Barry thought you were talking about cutting off the muffler and putting on a new can. not taking the whole thing off. ??
Driving with no muffler, you sure would be heard. :thumb:
So if I get so annoyed with my neighbor's boyfriend with the Harley running straight pipes coming here in the early hours of the morning (:mad:) that I shove a potato into each one of the pipes (gives a new meaning to potato-potato) causing the bike to quit running and him having to walk instead of riding such a dangerous machine, does that count as saving a life?
Luckily for his harley, they either broke up or she moved.
Read the small print.
:2guns:
personally i like loud pipes but i dont think that cuttin the entire can off will help anything because the bike will lose loads of low end/you could do like me and cut the baffle out of the inside of the can which want be as loud but you will be heard and it carries a nice little tune also
Does drilling holes at the end of the muffler really work?? If so where at the end do you drill??
Drill the holes near the head, toward the head. The bigger and deeper the holes, the better the sound.
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 11:08:52 AM
Drill the holes near the head, toward the head. The bigger and deeper the holes, the better the sound.
Don't listen to this dude, he's got a hard on about quiet exhaust, but to each his own right?
I'm sure he'll post something about loud pipes, at night, bugging the guy next door, blah blah blah....
You drill em at the end, around the the small outlet in the muffler, there's a pic some place or a link but I'm too lazy to find it.
Shhhh, babys sleepn.
:)
Quote from: rob1bike on November 16, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
I'm sure he'll post something about loud pipes, at night, bugging the guy next door, blah blah blah....
That was on the last page, douchebag. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: rob1bike on November 16, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
I'm sure he'll post something about loud pipes, at night, bugging the guy next door, blah blah blah....
That was on the last page, douchebag. :icon_mrgreen:
Lmao! He said douchebag!
Hey the house next door is for sale... I'd hold off running the chainsaw 'till 730 for you!
Ride safe! Douchebag,lol!
That was a reference to earlier in the thread. No real offense meant. ;)
Oh, none taken! Its healthy to disagree, to a certain point.
You know we are thread jacking this topic.
Back to the point, don't take it off, mine fell off and it was insane! Didn't run correctly either. Drill the end if anything