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Title: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 15, 2006, 09:19:48 PM
OK I spent this Evening Tearing my GS all of the way Apart to check and see what was Raising hell in the bottom End.Yeap it was the Counter balancer bearing.From the way it sunded I though it was the Outer Crank bearings too.Anyway as I pulled the top Half and Flipped it Oer there wasn't a Bearing in that Half.OK I pulled the balancer and Here is what I pulled out of the Bottom Half.
(http://star.walagata.com/w/jughead/Bearing_1.jpg)
(http://star.walagata.com/w/jughead/bearing_2.jpg)

Yeap the First Picture they are stuck together.From the way the Cases look it has been Spinning Since New or Near New.Looks like there is Close to 1/4" of Play in the Cases nw and the Counter Balance Shaft Doesn't look too good Either. :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: 94suzuki500 on November 15, 2006, 09:40:49 PM
dont worry that'll buff out! :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 15, 2006, 10:40:03 PM
I'm parting it out anyway.Luckily nothing else was Hurt.
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Dom on November 15, 2006, 10:50:35 PM
I bet you made it all the way to the end of the block before you remembered that you forgot to put the oil back in.   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 15, 2006, 11:34:42 PM
Actually This is How I bought it.  :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: I knew Something was Wrong with itbut I just Bought it for a Two Stroke Conversion.When I got it it Didn'tt have ANY Oil in it and had a Tag Attached to the Keys that said Do not Start No Oil.I don't know if the Owner Done that or a Cycle Shop. :dunno_white: :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: indywar360 on November 16, 2006, 12:54:04 AM
that is some quality paper towel. Looks so soft... you are the kind of person who really likes to pamper yourself arent you.
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Afzzr12 on November 16, 2006, 06:14:15 AM
Quote from: Jughead on November 15, 2006, 11:34:42 PM
Actually This is How I bought it.  :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: I knew Something was Wrong with itbut I just Bought it for a Two Stroke Conversion.When I got it it Didn'tt have ANY Oil in it and had a Tag Attached to the Keys that said Do not Start No Oil.I don't know if the Owner Done that or a Cycle Shop. :dunno_white: :dunno_white:

I want to know how you are comverting this to a 2 stroke??????  I have NEVER heard of that.  I want to know.
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: MarkusN on November 16, 2006, 07:00:03 AM
Quote from: Afzzr12 on November 16, 2006, 06:14:15 AM
Quote from: Jughead on November 15, 2006, 11:34:42 PM
Actually This is How I bought it.  :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: I knew Something was Wrong with itbut I just Bought it for a Two Stroke Conversion.When I got it it Didn'tt have ANY Oil in it and had a Tag Attached to the Keys that said Do not Start No Oil.I don't know if the Owner Done that or a Cycle Shop. :dunno_white: :dunno_white:

I want to know how you are comverting this to a 2 stroke?????? I have NEVER heard of that. I want to know.
Don't get too excited. It involves swapping out the whole engine...
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 16, 2006, 08:07:37 AM
Go Here.  :thumb:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=31728.0
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: GeeP on November 16, 2006, 09:27:49 AM
Yeow!  Looks a little scorched.  Not that it matters, but did you check to see if they oriented the bearings correctly?  It's possible there is only one direction that uncovers the oil gallery. 

I wonder how long it took the rider to notice the thick, black smoke pouring from the engine breather?   :laugh:


Reminds me of a particular incident I heard from another mechanic:

"Well, she just ain't running right.  Sounds like shaZam!, and she ain't got no traction." 

"Ya don't say?  Notice any unusual noises?" 

"Naw, not really"

"She sure does have a nice big hole in the air belt on the right hand side..."

"Oh, shaZam!!"

"Hey, why don't you go down the track and see if you can rustle up 1 fork, 1 blade, two pistons, and the remains of two cylinder liners?  Oh, and find the #10 cylinder handhole covers, they're a pain in the ass to buy."

He had some pretty good earplugs not to notice 1500 lbs of reciprocating mass depart the engine.  The hole was almost big enough to pass a 2dr. filing cabinet through.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Blueknyt on November 16, 2006, 02:32:58 PM
jug. if your not pressed to have the bike back ASAP then i have a recomendation for you.

send the crank/rods/pistons &rings to Falicon  http://www.faliconcranks.com/index.html

i was quoted 210+shipping and they will ballance it, you can then plug the oil feeders for the counterballancer and use the counterballanceshaft as a doorstop.


this also free's up a noticable amount of HP to the rearwheel that normaly paraciticly robbed by the CBshaft weighing almost as much as the crank.

every time ive attempted to do this some other Life crisis pops up preventing me.
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 16, 2006, 03:20:30 PM
I had thought of that but I'm not into 4 Strokes too much.I'm Putting a 2 Stroke Power plant in the Frame. :thumb:
Title: Re: Ouch! Got my Motor all of the way Apart......
Post by: Jughead on November 16, 2006, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: indywar360 on November 16, 2006, 12:54:04 AM
that is some quality paper towel. Looks so soft... you are the kind of person who really likes to pamper yourself arent you.

I turn into one Cranky SOB when I don't have my Extra Absorbent Paper Towels. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I hate those One Ply Sheets of news Paper.On the other Hand I like my Toilet Paper like John Wayne...... Rough Tough and don't take shaZam! off Nobody.  :thumb: